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Rebecca Hb. ([info]beckyh2112) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-04-11 21:46:00


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Entry tags:fandom: transformers, flouncing, slash

Ah, Transformers slash. You get the regular slash-crazies with the added benefit of them all liking giant robots.

The incident starts when RG posts a silly fanart of Galvatron bending Cyclonus over a table (Mature Content flag) on March 27th. All is well, and the slashers are amused.

Until Tibby comes along. Tibby is not a slasher. Not only is she not a slasher, she thinks these Galvatron is gay jokes are getting old. The artist points out that she doesn't have to look at these if she doesn't like them. (Though, Devil's advocate here, it's not like he warns in the title that it's even slash.)

Tibby, however, is grossly offended by this suggestion, both on her own behalf and on the behalf of gay people everywhere:

It is demeaning and insulting to people of that lifestyle and it tarnishes the character's repuations and profiles. Its not funny or cute anymore and it is just disgutsing to see your pictures of Galvy ass raping (or other homosexual "jokes") Cyclonus on a regular basis. Try using your good talents to create your own characters and senarios for a change.

RG responds in a reasonable, if long, manner. Tibby happily ignores him to respond to [info]seiberwing's comments on TF slash.

Tibby's thoughts on yaoi: It's disgusting and so out of character for the characters themselves that it is just insane. Why do you fan chicks have to ruin a great story universe with your personal perverted fantasies? It tarnishes Galvatron's already trashy reputation and makes poor Cyclonus look like a simpering pussy. How you all get off on that I will never know.

Seiberwing remains in the fray and is joined by Shinju-chan as they both point out to Tibby that she has drawn her OFC in a hot tub with Galvatron. (Sadly, said picture has been taken down by Tibby so I can't link you to it.) As well as her OFC and her best friend's OFC hanging off Megatron's arms. How's that less ruinous of a great story universe than slash, the S-dames ask.

Tibby vindicates herself! She didn't really like that picture, anyway! Also, she does not draw sex all the time, unlike some of you people.

The comment-thread goes on for a little longer, but no more replies from Tibby. Woeface.

That doesn't mean she's out of the fun, though! You see, she's leaving the fandom over this! (March 30th)

Except, less then twenty-four hours later, she's changed her mind. Also, her character Darkhawk isn't a Mary Sue. (She totally is.)

However, while Tibby is back, her TF art isn't. Well, not on that account anymore. It's been moved to another account and sadly pruned of some of the sillier pics of Darkhawk. Woe.

There is an interesting LJ entry from her on March 28. Standard frothing "I hate slash!" rant, except for the bit about spirit-Galvatron at the end.

And in a sense spirit Galvatron is fuming seeing stupid homo jokes of him and Cyclonus. He's raging, screaming and all out furious about it. He's sick and tired of seeing it and wants to destroy all that fanart that depicts it.

Edit: Someone's gone over to troll Tibby's LJ, so I'm taking down the link to that.




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[info]wrongly_amused
2007-04-12 05:06 am UTC (link)
ELL OH ELL, I say, and that's all that can be said for somebody who so righteously defends the honor of a giant, 50 ft. cartoon robot with a propensity for psychotic behavior and fondness of large, phallic-shaped guns.

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[info]mochibuni
2007-04-12 05:08 am UTC (link)
You know, I always figured Megatron was gay, possibly with Optimus, so it's only fitting that Galvatron is, too. I figured Starscream was jealous over Megatron's might and perhaps that Lord Mega snubbed him.

And I'm pretty sure Spike and Bumblebee had a special relationship as well.

It's too bad I didn't realize this before I broke up with my ex, I could have ruined his childhood.

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Innocent by Quintesson logic.
[info]seiberwing
2007-04-12 05:13 am UTC (link)
In my defense, she seems to think that a picture of Galvatron eating soap is respectful.

Now, which way is the fangirl firing squad? I brought my own blindfold.

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Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]dunmurderin, 2007-04-12 05:45 am UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]seiberwing, 2007-04-12 05:47 am UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]evanwaters, 2007-04-12 08:03 am UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]puipui, 2007-04-12 10:38 am UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]singe, 2007-04-12 01:59 pm UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]fuzzybluelogic, 2007-04-12 04:46 pm UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]puipui, 2007-04-12 09:53 pm UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]herongale, 2007-04-12 08:35 am UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]seiberwing, 2007-04-12 05:55 pm UTC
Re: Innocent by Quintesson logic. - [info]herongale, 2007-04-12 10:44 pm UTC

[info]munchkinott
2007-04-12 05:18 am UTC (link)
And in a sense spirit Galvatron is fuming seeing stupid homo jokes of him and Cyclonus. He's raging, screaming and all out furious about it. He's sick and tired of seeing it and wants to destroy all that fanart that depicts it.

Ok, now we've got morphing into Astral Planes (or Astral Robots then back into Astral Planes)?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-12 06:32 pm UTC

[info]ghostmaster
2007-04-12 05:20 am UTC (link)
Spirit Galvatron? Does this mean we can break out the astral plane jokes again?

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[info]sepiamagpie
2007-04-12 05:43 am UTC (link)
I bought some on the cheap transformers episodes today. Please tell me they do stuff like that in the cartoons.

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[info]mcity
2007-04-12 05:43 am UTC (link)
Why do you fan chicks have to ruin a great story universe with your personal perverted fantasies?
BECAUSE IT'S HOT.

/cleans up

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-12 05:52 pm UTC

[info]cookie_love
2007-04-12 05:54 am UTC (link)
It tarnishes Galvatron's already trashy reputation.

Okay, that just doesn't make sense to me. It's like saying a whore's dress makes her look slutty.


And from the comic:

"A female designed Decepticon?! I thought female Decepticons were only a myth?"

"Oh yes. We are real. We just prefer to keep to ourselves."


Best. Explanation. Ever. I mean it! You bisexuals out there should be taking notes.

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(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2007-04-12 08:26 am UTC
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[info]hallidae
2007-04-12 05:55 am UTC (link)
Am I seeing things wrong, or is her transformer's head oddly large compared to the rest of her?

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[info]xero_sky
2007-04-12 06:15 am UTC (link)
Why do you fan chicks have to ruin a great story universe with your personal perverted fantasies?

Hey, it's what we do. Everybody need a hobby.

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(no subject) - [info]empyrealdragon, 2007-04-12 06:36 am UTC

[info]urpletastic
2007-04-12 06:24 am UTC (link)
It is demeaning and insulting to people of that lifestyle

In view of her later frothing about 'stupid homo jokes' this is as blatant a piece of hypocrisy as I've seen in a month of Sundays. Her inclusivity is PASTEDE ON, yay!

I just think she doesn't want folks getting their nasty gay germs all over her favourite robots. Kid's got a lot to learn.

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[info]daylightsparks
2007-04-12 06:31 am UTC (link)
There's Transformers porn??

But... but they're robots... oh, never mind.

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(Anonymous)
2007-04-12 06:33 am UTC (link)
Why do you fan chicks have to ruin a great story universe with your personal perverted fantasies?

Hi, you must be new to the internet.

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[info]anonyrat
2007-04-12 06:34 am UTC (link)
I have no idea what half of this means (except for the standard gay-cooties argument), but OH MY GOD I need to show this to my Transformers-fan boyfriend RIGHT THIS SECOND.

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edited to fix broken stuff - [info]dunmurderin, 2007-04-12 11:23 am UTC
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[info]nekoneko
2007-04-12 06:44 am UTC (link)
Why does that Transformer seem to be drawn in an odd, anime-esque style? And since when can large robots move like ninjas?

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[info]jaina
2007-04-12 07:17 am UTC (link)
*Are* there any girl Transformers? Or is all the giant-robot-sex automatically slash? Why am I even wondering about this?

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[info]damien
2007-04-12 07:17 am UTC (link)
You know, I really was expecting to see a HUMAN OC when I clicked those links. The image of 'sexy' girls actually dangling off his arms or climbing all over him might have been funny.

The fact that someone actually drew their own Transformer OC? wtf. And that's it apparently a bandwagon thing to do? Double wtf. And that Transformers are even gendered?!

...So much wtf. It's distracting me to the point that I can't even concentrate on the wank report.

How do you even tell the boy-bots from the girl-bots? Voices? Colors?

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[info]priestesspadfoo
2007-04-12 09:07 am UTC (link)
From her LJ rant: Today computers are with kids at very young ages.

In context, I found this extremely amusing.

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[info]omega
2007-04-12 09:58 am UTC (link)
So... She's upset that she can't masturbate to the fantasy or this robot anymore, because she's been exposed to said robot having same-sex sex with another robot.


...

What?

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janegray
2007-04-12 10:44 am UTC (link)
What does OFC mean?

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[info]radiotrash
2007-04-12 10:51 am UTC (link)
I'm reading through the comic for who knows what reason. So. Decepticon females = good, Autobot females = whores. Good to know.

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(Anonymous)
2007-04-12 11:13 am UTC (link)
GAY ROBOTS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS, GUYS.

personal perverted fantasies

She must be new to the internet. Isn't that what all fandom is?

~Kay

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(Anonymous)
2007-04-12 11:32 am UTC (link)
... Galvatron has a "trashy reputation"?
Among WHOM?

~cmdr_zoom
(wishing I had my "lightsaber through eye" lj icon now)

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(no subject) - [info]soupspooks, 2007-04-12 08:54 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2007-04-12 11:36 am UTC (link)
Her OFC shares hot tubs with Cyclonus' spirit on the Astral Plane!

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(Anonymous)
2007-04-12 11:42 am UTC (link)
After reading this wank I just want to say "Tibby" over and over again. But I fear that would enrage spirit Gamera.

--dhole

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