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wal_lace ([info]wal_lace) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-05-17 06:22:00


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Current mood:Grouchy
Current music:The ninety-minutes-after-dawn chorus.
Entry tags:fandom: spider-man

Women, oppressed? Surely not!
Some of you may have vague memories of some recent bother over a cute statue. No? Well, it hardly drew much attention.

Others, however, are not so quick to forget. So when, over on [info]scans_daily, [info]bloodsend makes a post featuring a somewhat objectified image of the male form, reactions are varied.

Some find it a turn-off. Some (presumably having noticed that, hey, this is exactly what a masculine version of Wonder Woman's costume would look like) are amused. Various people declare their undying love for Gail Simone, rumoured to be responsible (the picture is rapidly revealed to be fanart).

[info]radiumhead decides to make a stand for the rights of his oppressed gender.

I dont wanna hear shit about that Mary Jane statue anymore.Women (and gay guys) got this thing.We're even.

(All punctuation his)

Shockingly, several women can't seem to accept that this charming picture makes up for not only the aforementioned statue, but also the fact that about 80%* of female comic-book characters wear, or have worn in the past, a similar costume (and had their bodies drawn in a similar way).

[info]clayin fails to see how cool it is to put women in thongs or, indeed, how horrendous it is to do exactly the same thing to men.

[info]sinyaa makes the basic point succintly. Luckily, [info]radiumhead has a counterpoint: the world needs women to be objectified, in ways it doesn't need men.

... Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too.

Anyway, the reactions to this are varied enough to require the mod to step in, politely and with admirable even-handedness (please don't ban me for taking this to [info]fandom_wank, [info]rabican!).

[info]ceru_see explains to [info]radiumhead that he is interrogating his fanboy lust (and fangirl lust) from the wrong perspective.

Meanwhile, [info]radiumhead is explaining that he was just joking. Also, it doesn't matter because it's only fanart, and he doesn't have a problem with the gays. Look, some of his best friends favourite comics are gay!

[info]mrinsane wins the thread.

It seems to have run its course fairly quickly (between midnight and six o'clock this morning), but it was amusing while it lasted.

And some good points were made.

*A conservative estimate, I know. But I'm pretty sure that quite a few have never exposed their midriffs in battle)



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flightstothesea
2007-05-17 08:03 am UTC (link)
I hope I wasn't the only one who was just plain disturbed by that image.

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[info]annaham
2007-05-17 08:03 am UTC (link)
I dont wanna hear shit about that Mary Jane statue anymore.

YOU HAVE OFFENDED MY DELICATE SENSIBILITIES WITH YOUR COMPLAINTS!

Quick, someone get him a fainting couch and some smelling salts.

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-05-17 02:46 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 08:06 am UTC (link)
Fanart? Looks a lot like Glen Hanson's work to me: http://www.glenhanson.com/mackenzie_1.htm


*goes off to properly read wank now*

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[info]omgwtflol
2007-05-17 08:31 am UTC (link)
The head and crotch of that thing really bother me. :/

And to be honest, I want that Mary Jane statue.

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(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2007-05-18 08:29 am UTC

[info]tangentialone
2007-05-17 08:38 am UTC (link)
Those are some good points. (By [info]goat_song, of course.)

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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2007-05-17 10:13 am UTC
*_*
[info]semtex
2007-05-17 08:40 am UTC (link)
I think I'm in love with [info]ceru_see for putting that so succinctly.

Uh, and [info]radiumhead? Backpedaling via "OMG I'm not seerious, I'm doing it for the lulz" still does not negate you from coming across as a histrionic fapping fanboy asshat.

In addition?Spaces after your sentences.Are your wee friends.They make your stupidity easier to read.Remember that next time you DO IT FOR THE LULZ.See how horrible this paragraph looked?

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[info]wanktasticbus
2007-05-17 08:45 am UTC (link)
Anyone else think [info]radiumhead is an asshat?

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 08:50 am UTC (link)
Some more wank (with deleted death threat) here: http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/3509968.html?thread=125265616#t12

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(no subject) - [info]michmatch, 2007-05-17 01:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2007-05-17 07:42 pm UTC
I can die now. I've seen EVERYTHING.
[info]fevered_ego
2007-05-17 08:55 am UTC (link)
Oh my god, racewank has sprouted.

Talk about a tempest in a banana hammock.

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[info]lostmahmarbles
2007-05-17 09:01 am UTC (link)
I've apparently been spending too much time looking at gay erotic art because I didn't see anything wrong with the image until other people pointed it out.

and i still kinda like it

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[info]cyndra_falin
2007-05-17 09:37 am UTC (link)
All I gotta say is.....wow.

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[info]thekiwiwhoflew
2007-05-17 10:21 am UTC (link)
There's a Schwartzenagdnanllamawammahubbawubbadingdonger joke lost somewhere in those chiseled abs.


(I can't spell and like hell am I looking up the dude's name.)

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[info]toxictattoo
2007-05-17 12:50 pm UTC (link)
There's a reason why female comic book characters are drawn that way-because the world needs it.nobody needs "Wonder Man." (This one, OR the Marvel one, actually.)

What? I...what?

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[info]cathowl
2007-05-17 01:51 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, that is so gay. I need to draw some of my characters in that outfit.

...Wank? There's wank?

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(no subject) - [info]cathowl, 2007-05-17 02:51 pm UTC

janegray
2007-05-17 01:56 pm UTC (link)
Isn't [info]radiumhead a troll? He has made some pretty suspicious comments in many entries, things like "finally the fucking anti-regs are getting their criminal asses kicked by the great awesome hero Iron Man!" when it's pretty much established that 95% of people in scans_daily cheer for the anti-regs and hate Iron Man's guts. Of course there are pro-regs and Iron Man's fans in scans_daily, but [info]radiumhead's comments seemed baits.

Anyway, I really liked [info]moon_very_thin's comment.

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[info]joye
2007-05-17 02:15 pm UTC (link)
I hate these asshats who think the answer to the objectification of women is to objectify men. "See? No more double standard! So no complaining ladies! Have some more beefcake in a thong!" (Aimed at radiumhead and not the artist, btw; I think the artist's satire is brill.)
In fact, why does the answer to every double standard seem to involve lowering the standards even more for everyone?
Damn kids on my lawn... *mutters, shakes cane*

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[info]sepiamagpie
2007-05-17 02:27 pm UTC (link)
I was heartbroken to find out it was fanart, but also suddenly relieved to find out Wonder Mullet wouldn't be canon.

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[info]zing_och
2007-05-17 02:35 pm UTC (link)
1: Wow, some people will believe anything. DC publishing this as a Wonder Woman cover? Please.

2: When I feel sorry for myself, I remind myself that at least I don't have to mod scans_daily. rabican has to be really hardcore.

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(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2007-05-17 04:58 pm UTC
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[info]blackhat
2007-05-17 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Wonder Boy looks like the mpreg love child of Roy Mustang and Armstrong. AAAAIIIEEEE!!!!!

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(no subject) - [info]isa, 2007-05-17 06:59 pm UTC
Quote from a previous wank; not mine. - [info]slackeremeritus, 2007-05-18 07:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]batty, 2007-05-19 06:02 am UTC

[info]plazmah
2007-05-17 03:43 pm UTC (link)
radiumhead has a counterpoint: the world needs women to be objectified, in ways it doesn't need men.

Please listen to the jaunty tune I'm playing on my FAILmonica.

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(no subject) - [info]melandry, 2007-05-17 11:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cythraul, 2007-05-18 02:18 am UTC
Icon post! - [info]antimatterspork, 2007-05-18 05:04 am UTC
Re: Icon post! - [info]plazmah, 2007-05-18 05:05 am UTC
Re: Icon post! - [info]antimatterspork, 2007-05-18 08:33 pm UTC

[info]chaootaku
2007-05-17 03:48 pm UTC (link)
That picture looks Joseph Joestar dressed as a Wonder Woman themed gay stripper.

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[info]ara
2007-05-17 04:05 pm UTC (link)
Well, at least it's equally hideous as the Mary Jane statue and the Power ZOMGFEMALESHAVEBOOBSLOOKLOOKBOOBSGUYSBOOBS Girl cover that got ranted about a while ago.

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[info]melisus
2007-05-17 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I dont wanna hear shit about that Mary Jane statue anymore.Women (and gay guys) got this thing.We're even.

Right. Because for every objectified man there are hundreds of objectified women. Yep. That's definitely what I'd call even.

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(no subject) - [info]brown_betty, 2007-05-17 05:38 pm UTC
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[info]rachel_pi
2007-05-17 06:09 pm UTC (link)
Awwww...the "why are you complaining about this when there's much worse sexism in Africa!" comments came out again.

There is just so much fail contained in that argument.

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(no subject) - [info]annabelle_lee, 2007-05-17 07:54 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-05-18 01:59 am UTC
That line always takes me back . . . - [info]necronomist, 2007-05-18 07:06 pm UTC

[info]semirecluse
2007-05-17 06:17 pm UTC (link)
I can't see the picture :(

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-05-18 10:10 am UTC


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