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Jetamors ([info]jetamors) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-05-29 17:23:00


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Current mood:Gobsmacked
Entry tags:bannination, fandom: general, fanfic, lj oppression, think of the fictional children, unfunny business

Figure it's big enough to put here.

So first, [info]pornish_pixies is mysteriously suspended. No explanation, at least so far. And so is [info]sbrb_blackcest, [info]shota, [info]wonkaslash, [info]lol_porn, and [info]afamilyaffair, as well as some of Ataniell's RP journals. Other comms ([info]dailydeviant, [info]hp_incest) seem to have self-deleted in an attempt to ride out the wave. Starting to notice a pattern?

[info]liz_marcs thinks she's found the culprit; Warriors for Innocence has recently turned their vigilante anti-child-porn eye onto LJ, and they don't like what they see. She's written an email to them, and promises to tell us all about their reply a bit later. (Note: people are reporting SPYWARE on the WfI website, so be careful.)

It's plenty wanky already, with people mostly locking down their content and/or shaking their fists, but I don't see any way that this will not balloon into a screaming match that makes Fanlib look like a tea party once people start getting home from work and [info]liz_marcs posts WfI's response.

ETAs:
There's a running tally of suspended/deleted comms and LJs here.

Femmequixotic gets a reply: pornish_pixies was TOS'd for the incest

Also, to those who find the server particularly robust, adding ?style=mine or ?format=light to the end of the link or hitting ctrl-shift-R to clear your cache may help a bit.

The response to liz-marc's email: WfI says they didn't report any fandom comms, and weren't even aware of fandom at all. Are they in CYA mode, or is our princess really in another castle?

You know it's big when Aja and Heidi are talking to each other again. (Or they made up yoinks ago and this is non-news, but why ruin the moment with facts?)

By modly suggestion, some options for reducing server robustness:
1) Cool it on the macros
2) Turn off images in your browser. Images can be turned off in Firefox via Tools -> Options -> Content and then either switch off "load images automatically" or block JF via the exceptions. In IE, it's Tools -> Options _> Advanced -> Multimedia -> Show Images.

ljsupport makes an official post. And it's somewhat... lacking:
Please remember that you guys, as volunteers, might have more information than the average LJ user about a lot of things, but you almost certainly do not have all the information about any given situation.

In recognition of this, it is very very important that you go out of your way to avoid making any kind of statement that could ever be construed as speaking for LJ, giving information about LJ's plans, or offering any "behind the scenes" information or interpretations.

Please also avoid making references to "friends in high places", "people I know on staff", or any other form of construct that intimates that you have any level of special access to the Inside Workings of LJ, etc. Again, no matter how much information you might have about a situation, you don't have it all, and things you say will get picked up and accepted as gospel truth, even though they are, in many cases, not possessed of the full set of facts.


WfI has made at least two new posts since all this went down, sticking their foot further into their mouth each time. (Note: people are reporting SPYWARE on the WfI website, so be careful.)

People scream at LJ on a news post, from page 6 to... maxing out at page 100, with 5000 comments. And they've now moved to the next older post, which has gone from 17 pages to 40. Oh dear.

LJ finally speaks! ... to the press.

And while we're waiting for LJ's official statement to us... apparently WfI really *is* run by racist homphobic anti-immigration far-far-right-wing Christian dominionists. This is TV-movie perfect, y'all; all it needs is Kevin Bacon teaching us how to dance.

JF is going down for a bit this evening, so don't panic. (I'll delete this ETA when it comes back up.)

You know it's bad when even Perverted Justice is calling you a moron:
LiveJournal continues stupidity... just differently
Today LiveJournal/SixApart deleted a ton of LJ's that violated their "terms of service." We went after LiveJournal/SixApart months ago, with a very specific list of pedophile blogs and communities. Not only were the staff at LiveJournal/SixApart beyond condescending and rude in their replies, they defended the advocacy of pedophilia and pedophile communities as being acceptable under their Terms of Service, something we contested in our original Writeup about them.

So today, LJ decides to finally do something about the pedophile communities that had sprung up on their service. However, rather than listening to us months ago, they decided to just wipe out whole fields of communities whether they were related to those who advocate child rape or not. We're not quite sure who is running the show over at LJ, but until they state without condition that actual pedophile activists and those promoting child rape are disallowed from their service, we will continue to list them as an aggressive Corporate Sex Offender.

Apparently LiveJournal can't tell the difference between what a pedophile community is and a Harry Potter fan-fiction community despite being told months ago which is what.


You've probably all seen this already, but LJ's reponse is here; comments have, of course, already been maxed out. Text here.

... of course, this came after one of the CEOs talked to Metafilter about it. I'm feeling so unloved. *tear*

And new news post: a bunch of stuff has been or will be unsuspended, to boil it down.




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[info]eljuno
2007-05-29 08:40 pm UTC (link)
I approved this, but you have to fix your code.

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(no subject) - [info]jetamors, 2007-05-29 08:43 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]jetamors, 2007-05-29 09:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luvginnyarwen, 2007-05-31 03:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2007-05-31 04:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luvginnyarwen, 2007-05-31 04:31 am UTC

[info]kadath
2007-05-29 08:44 pm UTC (link)
Like I said in the [info]fandom_lounge thread, on the one hand, their saccharine self-righteousness is irritating as all get-out. On the other, they're annoying the hell out of LJ Abuse, which is great.

I can't decide whether I love them or hate them!

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[info]julesnoctambule
2007-05-29 08:48 pm UTC (link)
LiveJournal: We're Thinking of T3h Chyldrenz naked.

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(no subject) - [info]cythraul, 2007-05-30 09:00 am UTC

[info]thescarletwoman
2007-05-29 08:49 pm UTC (link)
*sigh* this is going to get very big... very fast.

And the result will not be good.

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[info]eljuno
2007-05-29 08:49 pm UTC (link)
Now, see, the real question is this: If they really hover over their referrer logs over at WFI, how long do we have before they show up here to troll righteously give us their side?

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(no subject) - [info]hearsawho, 2007-05-29 08:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-05-29 08:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2007-05-29 09:03 pm UTC
I randomly pick 4 hours. - [info]semtex, 2007-05-29 09:10 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2007-05-29 09:06 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]nymeria, 2007-05-29 09:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-05-29 11:34 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]nyoda, 2007-05-30 06:36 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-05-29 09:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-30 01:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]drworm, 2007-05-30 03:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hearsawho, 2007-05-29 09:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nymeria, 2007-05-29 09:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hearsawho, 2007-05-29 10:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kadath, 2007-05-30 01:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hearsawho, 2007-05-30 01:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alya1989262, 2007-05-29 09:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-05-29 10:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-29 11:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alya1989262, 2007-05-31 02:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-05-31 04:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pepperjackcandy, 2007-05-29 11:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]carlanime, 2007-05-29 09:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]missdaisy, 2007-05-29 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]icedark_elf, 2007-05-30 09:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]churri, 2007-05-29 09:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-29 10:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luna_hoshino, 2007-05-30 03:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lilychan, 2007-05-30 04:30 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-30 06:50 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-30 08:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fuzzytowers, 2007-05-30 09:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2007-05-30 09:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]azhidahaki, 2007-06-01 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lavenderfrost, 2007-05-29 10:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]agent_hyatt, 2007-05-29 11:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-29 10:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-05-29 11:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]drakyndra, 2007-05-30 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-05-30 08:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]imadra_blue, 2007-05-30 12:29 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2007-05-29 08:50 pm UTC (link)
I've been in fandom for over 5 years and never has fandom been in such a weird place. I'm boggling over here.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-29 10:00 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tempslut, 2007-06-04 01:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackflag, 2007-05-31 05:50 am UTC

[info]bemysty
2007-05-29 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Commenting on a legendary post?

I think it's pretty much a given this will lead to an explosion of epic proportions.

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(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2007-05-29 09:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bemysty, 2007-05-29 09:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gloria_mundi, 2007-05-29 09:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bemysty, 2007-05-29 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-05-29 10:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]solar_type_star, 2007-05-30 10:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-06-01 05:01 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]greenling, 2007-05-30 07:24 pm UTC

[info]wanktastic
2007-05-29 08:53 pm UTC (link)
*stocks up on booze and chocolate*

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(no subject) - [info]nom_nom, 2007-05-30 07:19 pm UTC

[info]theladyfeylene
2007-05-29 08:54 pm UTC (link)
I'm seriously just over here holding my head. Between the accusations of personal attacks, of this being a Web War, leaping to conclusions and so many people convinced it's really all about them, I'm already getting a wank headache. At least most of my Flist is being sane and rational.

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(no subject) - [info]camilla, 2007-05-30 02:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]theladyfeylene, 2007-05-30 07:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2007-05-30 05:07 pm UTC

[info]nymeria
2007-05-29 08:55 pm UTC (link)
So this is what that OMG DELETE WINCEST FROM YOUR INTERESTS RIGHT NOW?! chain letter was about?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-29 09:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cythraul, 2007-05-30 09:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nymeria, 2007-05-30 09:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cythraul, 2007-05-30 09:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2007-05-30 09:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-06-01 05:17 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2007-05-29 08:55 pm UTC (link)
I can't wait to see the internet bloodbath this has the potential to turn in to.

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(no subject) - [info]lilychan, 2007-05-30 04:32 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2007-05-29 08:56 pm UTC (link)
It’s time to value child safety above free speech.

I don't dare sign in for fear of getting followed home. THIS idea disgusts me - you cannot have safe children WITHOUT free speech, because you cannot have children need to have the safety TO SAY WHEN SOMETHING IS WRONG.

These prats totally don't get the idea of - WATCHING YOUR CHILDRENS NET USAGE. The internet is NOT a surrogate mommy. There's places which AREN'T MEANT FOR KIDS.

Fuckers. Bet they burn Lolita, too.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-29 08:59 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]julesnoctambule, 2007-05-30 10:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2007-05-29 09:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alya1989262, 2007-05-29 09:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mortifyd, 2007-05-30 05:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2007-05-29 09:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chibikaijuu, 2007-05-30 12:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2007-05-30 01:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lexin, 2007-05-29 09:45 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]moonjaguar, 2007-05-30 02:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mercutia, 2007-05-30 05:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2007-05-30 07:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kittenmommy, 2007-05-30 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kats_kradle, 2007-05-31 02:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonjaguar, 2007-05-31 01:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]churri, 2007-05-29 09:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jetamors, 2007-05-29 09:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-05-29 10:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]scarah2, 2007-05-29 10:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cinnamonical, 2007-05-29 11:17 pm UTC
An excerpt from the comments to WfI - (Anonymous), 2007-05-29 10:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2007-05-29 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-30 12:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]photosinensis, 2007-05-30 12:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lannamichaels, 2007-05-30 01:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lilychan, 2007-05-30 04:36 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-30 11:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2007-05-31 12:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2007-05-30 03:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lilychan, 2007-05-30 04:38 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-05-30 04:51 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2007-05-31 12:32 am UTC

[info]sisterelwood
2007-05-29 08:59 pm UTC (link)
Okay, time to run out kick to the bookstore and run back so I can watch this go down. I went through a small-scale version of these witch hunts just over two years ago.

I pray that this shit isn't for real.

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