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Dani ([info]hypno_jango) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-06-13 23:48:00


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Entry tags:entitlement, fandom: death note, illegality

WAH WAH! I want my fansubs!
On the Kuro Hana Subs site, they received a C&D letter from Viz to stop subbing Death Note (which only has two episodes to go, BTW). Death Note fans are known for being smart and mature so I'm sure they are handling the news very well and the forum didn't explode with capslock in any way.


Look at the entitlement whores and their cries of "BOYCOTT THOSE ASSHOLES!"

AnonymousSo, VIZ Media wants to make all the Sub-Groups stop contributing their subs to the world of anime fans, who will (at least most or enough people) buy the Death Note DVDs anyway. Kuro-Hana stops, Animanda stops, both unterstandable because of the claim by VIZ Media of having the copyright for Death Note.

But I say:
Stop buying stuff from VIZ Media, stop buying DVDs from VIZ Media concerning Anime, if needed download Anime of the specific series from another Sub Group and show this company, that the costumer is the boss and not the company who owns the copyright. If people abandon buying from that specific company, and if people start trying to act on their demand, and if the company gets less sales from stopping groups from subbing anime series, than let them make subbing anime series, then what would there conclusion be, if not letting those groups sub anime series, which would be in that point of view in the acceptance of both the copyright owning company AND the viewers?

Thus I call for you:
Stop buying stuff from VIZ Media, for the right of the customer. Spread the message for making it possible, for if you don’t, you’ll just be a slave of companies oppressing your right to consume media you’ll buy anyway, and if you don’t you’ll just help the company and work against the costumers, which shouldn’t be your point of view.

So, I demand you, help yourself and your friends and spread this message, help anime staying in some way open source, make it happen.


SuperAnime: THIS IS IT…!
my 1st post in an anime site in my lift (I think)… Sadly it had to be about VIZ and even worse its about THE DEATH NOTE… the best anime that didn’t have bullshits (well aside from shinigamis and killer notes lol)…. its the first one I see where the main person of story is the bad guy…. and it focuses not on the power you have but rather how you use it and not to mention the twists…. and oh did I mention that its not countless number of episodes like naruto where it takes more than a few episodes to move from from point A to point B to save gara or jump too far from reality like bleach… something that even older ppl can enjoy.. and guess what?! after finding something that really impresses me… somthing mental rather than bang and boom like usual animes, the DAM viz (yes that’s how they showed represented in lower case to show there insignificance to us the viewers, the final judges in this market) they come and say “Neeooooo we’re jealous that we can’t sell our worthless DUBs of ‘DUHS’ while kuro-hana’s SUBS of ppl’s spirit kicks ass”… I’ll tell you what viz (yes dam little viz)… how about you let this great group, who did a job that a giant like you couldn’t suceed in doing, finish off their subbing or we’ll fill your mails and emails with our hatred… everyone here agrees with me … and we even are willing to take it up to the big anime studios and tell them that we’ll not watch their anime if they give their anime to the viz (yes so lil and filled with contempt). I don’t give a dam nickle about law… I AM THE VIEWER, THE END USER, THE CUSTOMER AND CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT…….please support the a movement of ANTI-viz (what da hell is viz supposed to mean anyway? viking in zoo?)…. after all you guys don’t do it for the money… and if you guys are willing to do it then remove your names from the subs and redo the subs differently so they won’t catch you and post it under unknown person in another torrent website and we’ll figure it out….I support you guys till the end… not only you had to put up with our hassle, you also where didcated and committed to it and for free!…so everyone raise your voices and support kuro-hana subs (YES SHOUT IT) and sink the viz (yes reminds me of that guy’s lil p***s and oh I’m waiting for someone to give me a cool meaning of viz that fits them well enough) offices with angry fan letters… and sue my A** if you can lil p***s…. I mean viz…. PEACE EVERYONE


yoshiki: What ever happened to Thomas Jefferson’s original intent w/ regards to the copyright as a thought / idea can not be extinguished once it has entered a mind. Oh yeah, that’s right, thanks to the Republikan Congress for changing the rules and increasing copyrights by 300+-some years >:( .

VIS=piece of crap.

Oh well, that’s my 2 cents. Good luck and God’s Speed, KH. Thx so much for everything you’ve done for us ^_^ !!!!!


Yes, they took the news real well. *looks around* Hey! Here's some sane person!

jod10: They may have timed it like this or not - they may have just been working their way up to Kuro-Hana. Point is, they spent millions of dollars to buy the rights to Death Note and they are simply protecting them.

They want to control the distribution of their new asset. I understand both sides, and in most cases, fansubs actually help the industry by getting a fanbase, which for the most part will buy the products the new Licenser releases ( i.e Viz). At the same time, they own the rights, meaning the title name characters, and anything else relating to the anime.

They are not evil; fansub groups are not evil either. They just have conflicting interests. Please stop bitching at how Viz is the devil for wanting to protect their new asset - the last few episodes will most likely get subbed by someone, whether it is Kuro-Hana or not.





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[info]harrylovesron
2007-06-14 07:26 am UTC (link)
the costumer is the boss

What's this, the costumer is boss? Does that mean the wardrobes of cosplayers all over the world are planning their hostile takeover?

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(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2007-06-14 07:28 am UTC
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[info]darthtall
2007-06-14 07:28 am UTC (link)
I'd comment on the wank, but I'm too busy laughing my ass off at your icon. Oh, Near. ♥♥♥!!! Come sit by me and I'll let you play with my giant collection of Lego pirate ships.

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(no subject) - [info]hypno_jango, 2007-06-14 07:28 am UTC

[info]staroverthebay
2007-06-14 07:39 am UTC (link)
so THAT's what that shitstorm over at 4chan was all about.

huh.

learn something new everyday.

*wanders off to ogle the perdiness that is "Romeo X Juliet"

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(no subject) - [info]eris, 2007-06-14 08:03 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tardis, 2007-06-21 03:59 am UTC
(no subject) - ladygoddess, 2007-06-14 10:51 pm UTC
Looks up - ladygoddess, 2007-06-14 10:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]staroverthebay, 2007-06-15 08:46 pm UTC

[info]ladylance
2007-06-14 07:50 am UTC (link)
*rolls eyes*

This was totally going to happen sooner or later. And really, C&D's don't actually stop people from subbing the series, they just go a bit deeper underground.

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(no subject) - [info]iris, 2007-06-14 09:20 am UTC
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[info]chikane
2007-06-14 07:59 am UTC (link)
What unique and special snowflakes those people are. It's kinda cute, if it weren't so pathetic.

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[info]rowan
2007-06-14 08:11 am UTC (link)
Gah. I admit it kinda sucks if you've been watching a series and suddenly you can't anymore when you're so close to the end, because it'll take a while until you get there again with official releases...

... but dude, SUCK IT UP AND DEAL. You have no right to them. Deal with it. I hate entitled fanbrats.

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[info]bemysty
2007-06-14 08:34 am UTC (link)
And this would be one of the times where I laugh about retarded fanbrats - they should be glad the subs got as far as they did since DN's been licensed since the... fifth or sixth episode aired, iirc, and any sub past that point was subject of a potential C&D.

I'd say "watch the friggin' raws, it's not as though the anime isn't mostly a carbon copy of the manga", but that'd call for actual EFFORT on their part, and we can't have THAT, after all.

(but hey, for once I have a fitting icon over here)

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(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2007-06-14 11:43 am UTC
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[info]rekall
2007-06-14 08:42 am UTC (link)
I really shouldn't be laughing, since I would be pissed if the groups who fansub 'Code Geass' or 'Darker than Black', all got C&D letters with only two eps left. But you know, I'd suck it up, watch the raws and then beg anyone who knows Japanese to explain the parts I didn't get. Therefore I'll be over in my corner, snickering away at the 'Death Note' fans.

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[info]iris
2007-06-14 09:07 am UTC (link)
What ever happened to Thomas Jefferson’s original intent w/ regards to the copyright as a thought / idea can not be extinguished once it has entered a mind. Oh yeah, that’s right, thanks to the Republikan Congress for changing the rules and increasing copyrights by 300+-some years >:( .

VIS=piece of crap.




Please die.

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(no subject) - [info]sudaki, 2007-06-15 12:20 am UTC
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[info]sol
2007-06-14 09:09 am UTC (link)
I love fansub wank. It's especially funny to see the sense of entitlement being blown up faster than a manwhore in Vegas.

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(no subject) - [info]sol, 2007-06-14 09:18 am UTC
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[info]blue_penguin
2007-06-14 09:27 am UTC (link)
Oh god, more fansub wank. Because you can never have too much whining about having to pay for stuff and talking about how by downloading media illegally you are somehow Sticking It To The Man! Ugh.

... okay, I'm going to stop now before I start wanking about fansub wank.

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[info]tephra
2007-06-14 09:36 am UTC (link)
I must admit, this is not nearly as annoying as the C&D that went out C1 with only one episode of Mushishi left to be subbed. Of course if they hadn't been so slow it wouldn't have been an issue but them's the breaks.

A few days later some new group jumped in for the last Mushishi, interesting how they used the same fonts as C1....

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(no subject) - [info]tephra, 2007-06-14 09:47 am UTC
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[info]chaootaku
2007-06-14 09:56 am UTC (link)
Is it just me or is SuperAnime's post vaguely soulcrushing?

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(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2007-06-14 10:16 am UTC

[info]fevered_ego
2007-06-14 10:14 am UTC (link)
A C&D with two episodes left to go, causing massive panic and calls to boycott? Oh Viz, you spunky monkey, you've officially doubled the return on my entertainment-seeking consumer dollar!

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[info]blackjackrocket
2007-06-14 10:25 am UTC (link)
they come and say “Neeooooo we’re jealous that we can’t sell our worthless DUBs of ‘DUHS’ while kuro-hana’s SUBS of ppl’s spirit kicks ass”

They're bashing a dub that HASN'T BEEN RECORDED YET? And don't most dub DVDs come with subs now anyway? I mean, with the exceptions of some little kid shows, that seems to be the way things go.

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Hooray for abundant icon space! - [info]bigbigtruck, 2007-06-15 04:07 pm UTC
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[info]pope_shane
2007-06-14 01:18 pm UTC (link)
Honestly, I like the fansubs of Death Note, I think they are particularly well done, but if they have to move underground for the last couple of eps, so be it.

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[info]ladyofviolets
2007-06-14 01:30 pm UTC (link)
//What ever happened to Thomas Jefferson’s original intent w/ regards to the copyright as a thought / idea can not be extinguished once it has entered a mind. Oh yeah, that’s right, thanks to the Republikan Congress for changing the rules and increasing copyrights by 300+-some years >:( .//

... All of this for a li'l C&D letter that won't let them get free stuff anymore?

Somebody here doesn't have his/her priorities straight, yo.

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scifantasy
2007-06-14 01:44 pm UTC (link)
What ever happened to Thomas Jefferson’s original intent w/ regards to the copyright as a thought / idea can not be extinguished once it has entered a mind. Oh yeah, that’s right, thanks to the Republikan Congress for changing the rules and increasing copyrights by 300+-some years >:( .

Every once in a while, I'm reminded why I want to go into IP law: if I don't, this will be the closest the Isles I participate in (go here for an explanation of my use of "Isles") will get regarding understanding it.

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[info]pharae
2007-06-14 03:02 pm UTC (link)
Is it just me, or is Viz getting a lot of fan scorn recently? Editing panels in manga with permission from the original publisher, sending C&D letters to fansub groups, oh noez!

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[info]joye
2007-06-14 03:38 pm UTC (link)
the best anime that didn’t have bullshits

There's only so high you can go without bullshits.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-14 04:17 pm UTC (link)
please support the a movement of ANTI-viz (what da hell is viz supposed to mean anyway? viking in zoo?)

No more weed for her.

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[info]tachikoma01
2007-06-14 04:57 pm UTC (link)
I thought it was already pretty well known in the anime world that Viz = populated by asshats?

So... why the surprise?

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(no subject) - [info]tachikoma01, 2007-06-14 05:02 pm UTC
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rachelthedemon
2007-06-14 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Death Note got licensed after the 6th fucking episode, and these brats are screaming because they finally got caught. Is this is the part where I'm supposed to cry tears of rage and stop buying Bleach DVDs? Because I'm totally not doing it.

Bleach > Death Note IMO anyway

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(no subject) - [info]fevered_ego, 2007-06-15 03:16 am UTC

[info]athy
2007-06-14 07:47 pm UTC (link)
Had to skim, the spelling and grammar hurts my uh... delicate sensibilities. And I suck at both myself so it must be bad.

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Spoilers: fangroups keep subbing.
[info]sticks
2007-06-14 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Animanda.net (is that right? I don't watch DN) got the same letter.

But dear fanbrats, kindly shut the hell up. Everyone knows that, for a series this popular, fansub groups will pick up subbing where they left off, then credit "Light's shoe" and "Ryuk's belt buckle" as the translator and timer and whatnot. And even if they don't, some 4chan anonymous will release a .ass subfile that you can slap over the raw.

Heehee. .ass.

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Re: Spoilers: fangroups keep subbing. - winterfox, 2007-06-15 05:38 am UTC


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