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I would prefer not to ([info]arien) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-06-14 13:23:00


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Entry tags:fandom: doctor who

Russell T. Davies gets the Doctor Who equivalent of papal infallibility?!
Perhaps a bit old and small, but amusing nontheless.

In a Doctor Who 2-parter aired a few weeks ago, the Doctor -- who's had his memory messed with so he can appear human to hide from aliens or something like that -- keeps a journal in which he sketches portraits of all the previous incarnations of the Doctor. In the shot of this sketchbook, a portrait of Paul McGann is given a prominent place.

The problem is, Paul McGann only played the Doctor once on TV, in the still-controversial 1996 TV Movie. (Look! It's up on teh YouTubes!) Despite the fact this film is eleven years old, some Doctor Who fans still insist that it's not part of the Doctor Who canon for a variety of reasons. (Mostly, because it was filmed in America and they don't like it.)

In a post about this on [info]doctorwho, [info]the_barlow plays devil's advocate (I think) and attempts to stir up the community a bit by saying, "What doth canon mean?" and "How canst one determine canon?" and "Canst the holy writ of thy Lord Russell T. Davies determine canon?" With a healthy dose of "Americans are teh suck!" for good measure.

It's an old argument, I guess, but at least it's not about Rose.

(What kind of heartless person could deny Paul McGann? He's so cute.)




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[info]puipui
2007-06-14 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Oh, for fuck's sake, how many audios does the man have to do? How many books does there have to be? Jesus Christ, fanboys, so he kissed a girl without any reason besides wanting to kiss her, get over it!

That's it, I want Paul McGann icons. Quick, someone point me to Paul McGann icons!

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[info]kittenmommy
2007-06-14 08:04 pm UTC (link)

lulz fanboys.

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[info]kittenmommy
2007-06-14 08:06 pm UTC (link)

PS. If the fanboys want to wank about that movie, there's a lot more wank-worthy stuff in there. Eric Roberts horribly miscast as the Master, for one thing.

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[info]solar_boat
2007-06-14 08:09 pm UTC (link)
(What kind of heartless person could deny Paul McGann? He's so cute.)

Word up! And in point of fact, if you include books and comics, PMcG has had the longest run of any incarnation.

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[MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO]
[info]llama_treats
2007-06-14 08:18 pm UTC (link)
I hated that episode with a passion, so I like to pretend that it doesn't exist. But I didn't give a flip about his drawing in the diary - there were drawings of the others, too, for crap's sake. (Unless I was imagining them in a feeble attempt to rid myself of the memory of that TV movie from hell.)

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Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]makeshyft, 2007-06-14 08:36 pm UTC
Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]kittenmommy, 2007-06-14 08:46 pm UTC
Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]llama_treats, 2007-06-14 08:51 pm UTC
Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]nita, 2007-06-14 09:36 pm UTC
Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]lcsbanana, 2007-06-14 10:47 pm UTC
Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]jarofclay, 2007-06-14 11:03 pm UTC
Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]barankhy, 2007-06-15 12:13 am UTC
Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]darthsemicolon, 2007-06-15 03:09 am UTC
Re: [MY THOUGHTS ON DOCTOR WHO] - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2007-06-17 07:18 pm UTC

[info]doomsday
2007-06-14 08:21 pm UTC (link)
The content of the wank means nothing to me, so I'll just get annoyed with [info]the_barlow signing all of hir posts with

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[info]drakyndra
2007-06-14 08:21 pm UTC (link)
This could be a funny wank, but I'm pretty certain [info]the_barlow is taking the piss, as is pretty much everyone in the comments. No one seems to getting worked up about it, or anything.

But if you can find a genuine McGann denier out there, please let me know so I can point and laugh.

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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-06-14 09:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arien, 2007-06-14 09:19 pm UTC
And now I've read more of it! - [info]puipui, 2007-06-14 09:23 pm UTC

[info]julesnoctambule
2007-06-14 08:49 pm UTC (link)
Ah, hardcore Whovians; how normal you make me feel. Ah, Paul McGann; how you rock.
When I recast the film version of 'Prisoner of Azkaban' in my head, he plays Lupin.

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[info]karmyn75
2007-06-14 08:52 pm UTC (link)
I have no comment on the wank, but I do have a question. My nephew told me that the creators came up with the idea of regeneration because the original actor was sick and that way he could be replaced in a plausible way. Is this true? I have no reason to believe my nephew wouldn't know his Doctor Who facts. After all, my brother in law was a member of the Doctor Who Fan Club back in the 80s.

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2007-06-14 08:54 pm UTC (link)
[info]davidbrider said "Pish and Tish".

I think I may be in love.

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[info]sandyclaws68
2007-06-14 09:03 pm UTC (link)
What, so all of those audio "plays" don't count? I'm a total geek for McGann who owns all of them.

What kind of heartless person could deny Paul McGann? He's so cute.
Totally OT but if you haven't seen it do watch The Hanging Gale. Paul brings new meaning to the concept of Catholic priest Father What-A-Waste in that movie. Although it's horribly sad and depressing about the Irish Potato Famine.

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Doctor Who and the Horror of Glam Rock - [info]takhys, 2007-06-15 09:37 pm UTC

[info]white_serpent
2007-06-14 09:26 pm UTC (link)
That cast list for the BBC's Shada webcast with him playing the Doctor? Totally doesn't count either.

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[info]black_spot
2007-06-14 09:41 pm UTC (link)
I will have to re-watch the entire movie for about the tenth time (have it on video from first showing). He was the first Doctor I ever squee'd over.

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[info]staroverthebay
2007-06-14 10:08 pm UTC (link)
I love to mock people who are all "Americans are teh suck!" just because they always use the same reasons.

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[info]lcsbanana
2007-06-14 10:25 pm UTC (link)
Eight is best because he was GAY MARRIED IN LOVE in his books :D simple math really! also he got laid A LOT, well, a lot for the Doctor, anyway. *g*

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[info]honorh
2007-06-14 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Paul McGann's gorgeous. He can be my Doctor anytime.

I rest my case.

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[info]phosfate
2007-06-14 11:14 pm UTC (link)
I don't like Colin Baker. Can we de-canonize him?

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[info]brown_betty
2007-06-15 12:10 am UTC (link)
Can this be the thread where we wank about people who can't fucking conjugate?

thou canst
it/one can

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(no subject) - [info]arien, 2007-06-15 12:24 am UTC

[info]ladysorka
2007-06-15 12:15 am UTC (link)
Ironically, all this is doing is making me think of is a scene from that other Russel T. Davies show. You know, the gay one.

Stuart: Give him six months and he'll be able to name all the Doctor Whos, in order. ...William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy.
Vince: What about Paul McGann?
Both: Paul McGann doesn't count!

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[info]darthsemicolon
2007-06-15 03:06 am UTC (link)
I avoid Doctor Who fandom like the plague, but the thought of the TV movie not being canon is somewhat mind-boggling to me. Does the Doctor Who exhibit in Blackpool count as canon? Because Paul McGann is on the big wall o' Doctors.

However, I also ignore whatever RTD says about canon that wasn't directly created by him (ie, books, the gazillion seasons prior to his, that sort of thing). It tends to make my brain hurt. (Apparently Gallifrey and Skaro were destroyed twice? Who knew? I still don't get how you can simultaneously destroy two planets that are nowhere near each other.)

And I hated those episodes with a fiery burning passion.

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[info]duraniedrama
2007-06-15 04:11 am UTC (link)
Paul McGann was The Doctor for only about two hours of screen time, but he's still one of my favorite Doctors. I would have so loved to have seen more of him.

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[info]the_mouse
2007-06-15 05:04 am UTC (link)
Oh my goodness thankyou for the link I have never seen the movie and my brain spazzed on me and never looked on Youtube thank you!

*bypasses wank, watches movie*

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(no subject) - [info]the_mouse, 2007-06-15 08:12 am UTC
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[info]tachikoma01
2007-06-15 05:21 am UTC (link)
The Dalek movies have my favorite Daleks, but even the Dalek Survival Guide doesn't consider them canon.

When do I get to wank?

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2007-06-15 11:11 am UTC (link)
*sigh*

Still no love for Peter Cushing.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060278/

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[info]rhiannon
2007-06-15 03:54 pm UTC (link)
As someone who's friends with the poster?

Yeah, he most likely was both stirring up shit and actually meant what he said. He has a tendency to do that. And a tendency to rip on Americans (and in the case of anything FOX does that's not House or 1013 related...they deserve it).

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