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dhole ([info]dhole) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-06-21 13:42:00
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Entry tags:i hate my country, political wank

Who wanks? I said everyone wanks
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070616.BAUER16/TPStory/TPNational/Television/

US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and Canadian Justice Richard Mosley get into it about Jack Bauer. Also giving their opinions on 24: Lord Carlile of Berriew, an independent reviewer of Britain's laws on terrorism, Stanley Cohen, a senior counsel for the Justice Department, and Maher Arar's attorney, Lorne Waldman.

Senior judges from North America and Europe were in the midst of a panel discussion about torture and terrorism law, when a Canadian judge's passing remark - "Thankfully, security agencies in all our countries do not subscribe to the mantra 'What would Jack Bauer do?' " - got the legal bulldog in Judge Scalia barking.

(...) "Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said.

Sadly, Judge Scalia does appear to be aware that Jack Bauer is a fictional character.
During a break from the panel, Judge Scalia specifically mentioned the segment in Season 2 when Jack Bauer finally figures out how to break the die-hard terrorist intent on nuking L.A. The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."
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[info]worstangel
2007-06-21 01:06 pm UTC (link)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA.

That is ALL I can say.

HAH.

hee.

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I guess that explains the Guantanamo Bay 'decisions'
[info]mouseybrown
2007-06-21 01:07 pm UTC (link)
The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."

You're missing the bit where Scalia then goes onto say that the internet is a series of tubes ...

Still, it's good to know that mental torture is okay with one Supreme Court 'Justice'.

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[info]inalasahl
2007-06-21 01:27 pm UTC (link)
I want a new country. This one's broken.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-21 01:29 pm UTC (link)
Yet another reason I want to move across the ocean as soon as possible.

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(no subject) - [info]cythraul, 2007-06-22 02:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-06-22 02:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cythraul, 2007-06-22 02:54 am UTC
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[info]ladyvorkosigan
2007-06-21 01:50 pm UTC (link)
Eh, typical inflammatory Scalia comment, but I don't think it's so bad outside of the first line (which was kind of amusing - I mean "Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles"? Really?). It goes on:

Judge Scalia argued that doomsday scenarios may well lead to the reconsideration of rights, in his legal decisions he has also said that catastrophic attacks and intelligence imperatives do not automatically give the U.S. president a blank cheque - the people have to decide. "If civil rights are to be curtailed during wartime, it must be done openly and democratically, as the Constitution requires, rather than by silent erosion through an opinion of this court," he dissented in a 2004 decision. The judicial majority ruled that a presidential order meant that an American "enemy combatant" wasn't entitled to challenge the conditions of his detention, which happened to be aboard a naval brig.

In other words, we should be directing this all toward, like, Gonzales instead. Why is he still in office?

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(no subject) - [info]ladyvorkosigan, 2007-06-21 01:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yotz_fen, 2007-06-21 05:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2007-06-21 06:29 pm UTC

[info]caffeine_fairy
2007-06-21 02:05 pm UTC (link)
It possibly says something quite sad that I saw your username and went and checked the date on the report...

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(no subject) - [info]dhole, 2007-06-21 02:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2007-06-21 02:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady7jane, 2007-06-21 03:13 pm UTC

[info]onaga
2007-06-21 02:12 pm UTC (link)
...is there wank here?

Maybe this should have gone to [info]fandom_lounge.

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(no subject) - [info]dhole, 2007-06-21 02:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stromatolite, 2007-06-22 03:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]teddog, 2007-06-22 08:31 am UTC

[info]showbiz
2007-06-21 02:51 pm UTC (link)
....................Wow.

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[info]sandyclaws68
2007-06-21 02:55 pm UTC (link)
So, torture is OK with one Supreme Court Justice? Good to know.

*makes plans to flee the U.S.*

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[info]ashenmote
2007-06-21 03:27 pm UTC (link)
This article will not make a lot of sense to you unless you are aware of the fact that Jack Bauer holds Judge Scalia's nine children and the little doggie hostage as we speak.

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(no subject) - [info]delcj, 2007-06-22 12:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2007-06-22 10:37 am UTC

bigi
2007-06-21 03:35 pm UTC (link)
In the third season, after an episode where Jack and another character played Russian Roulette, Kiefer did a little segment explaining that guns were bad and this was all pretend.

I'm starting to think he should do another one of those for torture.

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(no subject) - [info]ladyvorkosigan, 2007-06-21 03:53 pm UTC

[info]ahiru
2007-06-21 03:49 pm UTC (link)
They skipped the part where Scalia after the discussion Scalia went home and wrote a fanfic where his OC Antonia Scalia (totally not Mary Sue!) met Jack Bauer and they fell in love and got married and tortured terror suspects happily ever after.

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[info]negativecosine
2007-06-21 04:11 pm UTC (link)
That's it, I'm moving. (Sure, everyone wanks. But not everyone has the power to interpret law on the highest damn scale. And stuff.)

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[info]nita
2007-06-21 04:39 pm UTC (link)
Just knowing that Jack Bauer is Antonin Scalia's wet dream is enough to make me avoid the show forever. The fact that he thinks it's cool to get "interrogation" ideas from the show makes me cringe.

I fear for my country. I really do.

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(no subject) - [info]lavenderfrost, 2007-06-22 04:14 am UTC

[info]jaina
2007-06-21 04:53 pm UTC (link)
"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so."

Mommy, I'm scared. D: Please tell me this is all a very belated April Fool's article?

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(no subject) - [info]nita, 2007-06-21 04:58 pm UTC

[info]electric_sheep
2007-06-21 05:00 pm UTC (link)
Judge Scalia went on to stay he'd imprison Kim Bauer for "Criminal Stupidity" but have her released early on the condition of "Hot Behaviour".

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[info]yotz_fen
2007-06-21 05:22 pm UTC (link)
"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said.

Wank love!

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[info]mindset
2007-06-21 05:27 pm UTC (link)
More links: Apparently, Tancredo also has a thing for Jack Bauer, as do many conservation decision makers.

Life imitates art imitates life...

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(no subject) - bigi, 2007-06-21 06:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2007-06-21 07:19 pm UTC
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[info]soupspooks
2007-06-21 06:16 pm UTC (link)
*screams in horror*

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[info]lerefuge
2007-06-21 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Wow that's... *wow*. Yay for my Canadian judge but man, I pity my poor American friends.

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(no subject) - [info]vergilsparda, 2007-06-22 12:09 am UTC
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[info]syncopation
2007-06-21 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Um...

What? What is with crazy judges nowadays? They're popping up like daisies.

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(no subject) - [info]ladyvorkosigan, 2007-06-21 08:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]syncopation, 2007-06-21 08:31 pm UTC

[info]doomsday
2007-06-21 07:55 pm UTC (link)
I like to believe Reagan appointed Scalia as a joke, and the Senate was in on it. "LOL you guys, this douchebag is going to be hilarious!" (Don't disillusion me, plz.)

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(no subject) - [info]urpletastic, 2007-06-21 09:49 pm UTC

[info]evening_rose
2007-06-21 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Is this what happens when real life and fandom collide horribly on a nuclear-waste contaminated LA freeway? By way of juris prudence?

I'm gonna go hide and pretend I've never heard of 24....

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janegray
2007-06-21 10:07 pm UTC (link)
The real genius, the judge said, is that this is primarily done with mental leverage. "There's a great scene where he told a guy that he was going to have his family killed," Judge Scalia said. "They had it on closed circuit television - and it was all staged. ... They really didn't kill the family."

Oh.My.God.

And that guy is a judge?

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(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2007-06-22 12:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-22 12:59 am UTC
He's more than "a" judge...he's a Justice! - [info]jocelyncs, 2007-06-22 01:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2007-06-22 09:16 pm UTC

[info]ladysphinx
2007-06-21 10:13 pm UTC (link)
. . . and sometimes you are painfully aware that, on some level, your tax dollars pay this person's salary.

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