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Reeve Kasahara ([info]reeve) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-06-21 11:19:00


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Entry tags:taking it too seriously, videogames

Manhunt 2 rating wank
Rockstar Games, home of the Grand Theft Auto franchise and Jack Thompson's most reliable meal ticket, is no stranger to controversy. If it's not the hidden "Hot Coffee" minigame with CJ and Woozie one of his girlfriends getting it on in GTA: San Andreas, it's a stock scandal at parent company Take-Two Interactive. This time around, the controversy is centered around recent actions being taken by game rating agencies in the UK and the US for the upcoming Manhunt 2 (planned for release on the Wii and PS2). The original Manhunt centered around the practice of making snuff films and was highly controversial, so these developments shouldn't have come as too much of a surprise.

Cheap Ass Gamer (aka CAG) is one of the more level-headed large gaming forums, but still gets wanky from time to time, especially when it comes to the actual practice of buying and selling games. Therefore, it comes as no surprise when Manhunt 2's ratings becomes a hot topic, with a fair number of SHAQ-FU emoticons (CAG's way of censoring "fuck") being thrown around.

The ESRB's rating of the game as "AO" (Adults Only) and the BBFC's banning the game for sale in the UK are the starting points of this particular thread. The thread starts out fairly normally, with people saying that its a shame, but also an inevitability considering how the first Manhunt game was received. However, things devolve once the word "censorship" begins being tossed around, and MarioColbert first points out that Nintendo doesn't support AO-rated games.

There's also suspicions of a PR conspiracy on Rockstar's part, comparisons drawn between games and movies, debate over what an AO rating means, discussion about Rockstar's relationship to Nintendo, and key points repeated over and over and over and over. And of course, Godwin's Law is violated.

There's a lot to go through here (17 pages worth as of this writing), and the splooge is still flowing...



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[info]sol
2007-06-21 09:20 pm UTC (link)
Ugh, Manhunt. I was creeped out by the first game, so I'm not surprised that the second was rated AO.

Though, I do think that Rockstar did this somewhat on purpose, since they probably know better than anyone that none of the three consoles carry AO games, and refuse to.

On another note, those Shaq-Fu emoticons are a thing of beauty.

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[info]qem_chibati
2007-06-22 01:15 am UTC (link)
Huh. I though Sony did at least... There are yaoi games for ps2 in Japan at least with some very explicit scenes...

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[info]white_serpent
2007-06-21 09:50 pm UTC (link)
It hinders art and free speech.

Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft now officially govern the world.

This explains so much.



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[info]sheep
2007-06-21 10:12 pm UTC (link)
And there was me stupidly thinking LJ governed the world.

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[info]ilpalazzo
2007-06-21 10:26 pm UTC (link)
Harry...Potter...taco?

OMGWTFLUV.

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[info]sheep
2007-06-21 10:40 pm UTC (link)
It was inspired by Lysette, the Queen of batshit comparisons. Why, yes, she did call Harry the ex-taco boy*. So I drew Harry as a taco and made it into a icon.

Visit the wiki for a picture of the actual ex-taco boy

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[info]khym_chanur
2007-06-22 03:52 am UTC (link)
Where in the wiki? I can't find anything relating to tacos. (Or, more likely, the point is going completely over my head)

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[info]sheep
2007-06-22 10:39 am UTC (link)
Not FW wiki, the normal wiki, under Taco Bell :)

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[info]oxydosic
2007-06-21 10:32 pm UTC (link)
OMG taco!Potter is the coolest thing EVER.

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[info]sheep
2007-06-21 10:44 pm UTC (link)
If you steal, credit me please :D

See above comment for the history.

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[info]oxydosic
2007-06-21 10:50 pm UTC (link)
*steals with credit* SQUEE!

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[info]wrongly_amused
2007-06-22 01:30 am UTC (link)
If that's true, I demand my own, personal, tights-wearing, sword-swinging, slightly effeminate elf. I think it's only fair.

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[info]puipui
2007-06-22 02:44 am UTC (link)
Flaming fairy-boy elves for everyone! Huzzah!

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[info]wildskyrider
2007-06-22 07:34 am UTC (link)
Sign me up! I'm in the United States of Microsoft, tho. Do I have to emigrate to Nintendo to take advantage of this?

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[info]puipui
2007-06-22 10:36 am UTC (link)
I'm sure they'll allow dual citizenship, if you have enough money.

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iwanttobeasleep
2007-06-22 01:31 am UTC (link)
Maybe not the world, but from sales figures, Nintendo definitely has Japan.

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[info]wrongly_amused
2007-06-22 01:25 am UTC (link)
Hah! My brother told me about this a couple days ago, and I was watching in anticipation for what I knew was prime wank in the making. >D

Frankly, if a game's key focus of violence is enough to warrant an "AO," I don't see why it's so shocking the major consoles blew it off. The point of making games is making money, and AO has never been a good outlet for bringing in major sales. It stirs controversy, scares off a major demographic (and in Nintendo's case, their *key* demographic), and is restricted by age limit sales.

Honestly, leave the sick, twisted, violent fantasies where they belong (fandom).

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[info]thesilentsenshi
2007-06-22 03:11 am UTC (link)
Yeah. Give us some good off screen inuendo and let us take it from there. ;D

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[info]demonbean
2007-06-22 01:38 am UTC (link)
If you're going to make blanket statements clouded in faulty logic, with nothing more to support your claim than a few screenshots and videos you've seen online, you are silly not to expect someone to call you on it.

I think he just described half the internet. Poor thing.

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[info]thesilentsenshi
2007-06-22 03:09 am UTC (link)
That's actually better than a good portion of the net. Most of the percentage doesn't bother with such things as screencaps and supposedly seen video clips. XD

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[info]lostmahmarbles
2007-06-22 06:02 am UTC (link)
I'm just sad I won't get to stab guys with a screwdriver on Wii now. :(

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[info]blackjackrocket
2007-06-22 06:53 am UTC (link)
Wait, why would they even *make* a game that the system they make it for won't support? I mean, at least with NC-17 movies, you can take them straight to video, but a video game requires something to play it *on*.

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[info]photosinensis
2007-06-22 09:16 am UTC (link)
Linux. Nobody can stop you now!

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[info]lostmahmarbles
2007-06-22 09:37 am UTC (link)
I think they were trying to push the M rating and see what they could get away with. (The original was M, and some pretty graphic stuff has been given an M rating in the past. BMX XXX was rated M if I remember correctly.)

Or they're trying to stir up controversy for some reason.

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[info]reeve
2007-06-22 02:18 pm UTC (link)
Or they're trying to stir up controversy for some reason.

Well, it is Rockstar...

Some have suggested that the AO version of the game could make its way to a PC port, but I really don't see how they can avoid paring this down for a hard M, as the console game market is what they were making this for in the first place.

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[info]kahrohseh
2007-06-22 02:16 pm UTC (link)
Man. I want AO games for the Wii. The sex games possibilities with that Wiimote are virtually endless. D:

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[info]wrongly_amused
2007-06-22 05:51 pm UTC (link)
Haha, that reminds me of that recent VGCats comic...

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[info]aerinc
2007-06-22 11:53 pm UTC (link)
dot dot dot

WOW, the things I'm imagining now D:

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[info]chaootaku
2007-06-22 02:19 pm UTC (link)
Normally I'm all for fighting against games getting banned and stuff, but I just can't quite bring myself to defend a game where you rape people and kill cats in a microwave. :|

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-22 05:33 pm UTC (link)
Wha?

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[info]chaootaku
2007-06-23 07:55 am UTC (link)
The ultra-violent videogame Manhunt 2 allows you to rape a woman shortly after you beheaded her in the brothel level called Honey Pot. Members of the ESRB were shocked when Daniel Lamb used his male reproduction organ and simulated a penetration in the bloody hole. Other gruesome parts include microwaving a living cat to death and being a witness of necrophilia in a cemetery in one of the later stage of the game.

I'm no longer sure how valid this actually is, but it's probably gonna kinda make me uneasy about the game regardless until I can confirm it either way.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-23 08:00 am UTC (link)
Um...wha?

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[info]chaootaku
2007-06-23 10:05 am UTC (link)
Ah, sorry if I'm being confusing. It's something I found on the game earlier and I'm unsure if it's true or not at this point.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-06-23 06:59 pm UTC (link)
You're not confusing, it's just that my brain refuses to process that. Ew.

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capybara
2007-06-23 05:50 am UTC (link)
They need to forget all this crapulence and give me more Max Payne. How I miss his unintentionally hilarious dialogue and homicidal mania.

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