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Eppy ([info]lizzypaul) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-06-21 18:40:00


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Current mood:Spiffy
Entry tags:fandom: house, gay, hypocrisy

Slash fans who are (maybe, kinda, who knows) against gay rights.
It all starts when m1ssannethrop1c writes a fic where House and Wilson get gay married. This would all be well and good, if not for the author's note:

Oh and this fic is not in any way, representative of how I feel about gay marriage in general. I'm too young to be making political statements. This is just a dialogue that my muse wouldn't let me let go of.

hry2007 asks: "So you're not sure if you're homophobic?".

Cue much tl;dr about gay marriage, the definition of homophobia, and religion. If your eyes haven't glazed over, it all continues here.

I knew we were due for another "slash and gay rights" fight.




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[info]msilverstar
2007-06-22 01:09 am UTC (link)
I gotta say, anyone who uses "muse" non-ironically had better be a damn good writer. Because otherwise it's just incredibly pretentious.

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[info]heyoka
2007-06-22 01:18 am UTC (link)
"too young to be making political statements"? What is she, six?

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[info]doomsday
2007-06-22 01:21 am UTC (link)
I have to feel a little sorry for her. Obviously she's woefully naive and has a hard time thinking for herself. Maybe by the time she's 50 she'll be old enough to pull her head out of her ass and jump off the fence.

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[info]mireille
2007-06-22 01:25 am UTC (link)
I glanced at her profile--with statements like that, I was *hoping* you'd accidentally wanked a minor, but she's 19--and found this gem: My name is Anne. Well, not really, it's Isabelle. In my mind, it's close enough.

So, I'm thinking gay rights are not the only thing she's not sure of. *g*

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[info]duraniedrama
2007-06-22 01:29 am UTC (link)
Poor girl put a disclaimer in because she didn't want to get into a political debate and got into one anyway. Go figure.

And, frankly, I give her points for saying, basically, "I can't defend a given position because I'm still figuring out all the implications of that position." If more people thought like that, there's be a lot less wank on the internets.

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[info]limyaael
2007-06-22 01:33 am UTC (link)
The sad thing is that if she hadn't said anything about how she felt about gay marriage, probably no one would have commented on it; I've read plenty of slash where it's just assumed to exist.

Sometimes, brevity is the soul of wit.

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[info]sticks
2007-06-22 01:37 am UTC (link)
My gut reaction is to feel bad for [info]m1ssannethrop1c in a "[info]hry2007, stop kicking the puppy" way. I know this isn't a perfect analogy, but if someone got up in my face like that because, say, I didn't know which Democratic primary candidate I prefer (omg hilary-hater!1!) or whether or not I believe in God (omg religion-hater!!1), I'd think they were pretty damn cuntwaffle-y.

Disclaimer: in the spirit of the wank, I'll 'fess up that I have not, in fact, thought through every implication of the above.

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[info]rikiki
2007-06-22 01:51 am UTC (link)
The fic isn't even that good, imo.

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[info]kinneas
2007-06-22 02:03 am UTC (link)
hry2007 is kind of a bitch, but dammit that girl is obnoxious. Oh no, I've been on this planet for two decades in a liberal country and I can't yet figure out if humanity's natural inclinations ARE NATURAL!!!

It's such a non-issue for me that the existence of her indecisiveness is ludicrous.

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[info]kinneas
2007-06-22 02:04 am UTC (link)
hry2006: You've said yourself that you're unsure about same-sex marriage. THAT IS ANTI-HOMOSEXUAL! Your greyness, your ambivalence, is wrong and discriminatory.

ALSO THANK YOU. SERIOUSLY.

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[info]serai
2007-06-22 02:08 am UTC (link)
Whoa. Jumping down the throat of someone who's actually taking the time to consider all the issues before deciding on her views. Way to show off your respect for reasoned discourse there. Has [info]hry2007 never heard of a little thing called "persuasion"? A few more encounters like that and I wouldn't be surprised if she decided that people who are in favor o