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J. Crew Guy ([info]j_crew_guy) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-07-19 21:23:00


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Entry tags:censorship, lj oppression

LJ actually clarifies something. Film at 11.
(Posting it here since it seems likely to affect fandom most of all.)

Over in lj_biz, [info]burr86 clarifies LJ's stance on exactly what material is not allowed on LJ.

It began with "Thanks!" comments, but quickly grew with plenty of people asking questions and LJ getting their internet lawyer involved.

And now there are cat macros and a community to discuss what is obscene on LJ a la the Miller Test.

Plus comments like "you are all just spoiled brats who want to write Harry/Dobby porn". (I'd link to the exact comments, but I'm a spoilerphobe.)

SPOILERS for Harry Potter Book 7 on page 7 of the comments of the LJ_biz post.

There are even people who think it's a conspiracy that LJ posted about this now, because most HP fen are offline, avoiding Book 7 spoilers. So if you think it's wanky now, just wait til they find out about it.

Originally posted in clairvoyantwank.

EDIT: But wait, there's MORE! [info]burr86 has made a follow-up post in LJ_biz trying to muddy the waters clarify things further. Good luck with that.




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[info]lazulisong
2007-07-20 04:40 am UTC (link)
I was hoping someone would post this!

TOTAL DOGPILE, also HILARITY.

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[info]velvet_mace
2007-07-20 04:41 am UTC (link)
w00t! Strikethrough07.1 here we come!

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[info]eldritch
2007-07-20 04:44 am UTC (link)
If I hear any more freaking pirate songs in response to this, I'll... I'll... I don't know what I'll do. But I will not be pleased.

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[info]squeakytoy
2007-07-20 04:45 am UTC (link)
*sits back with the popcorn*

You know, I really do think that the timing of the announcement is entirely too...convenient...for it to be an accident.

But, yeah, this is gonna be big.

The Potterdammerung! With Extra, Added Strikethrough! (And no KiddiePr0n!)

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(no subject) - [info]nomadmatan, 2007-07-21 01:38 am UTC
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[info]fyren
2007-07-20 04:47 am UTC (link)
Is it true most of HP fen are offline?

Being not in HP-dom myself, I thought it's just a rumor.

I'm waiting for Romeo+Juliet smut. Romeo/Mercutio OTP!

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Mercutio? - [info]urpletastic, 2007-07-20 08:36 am UTC
Re: Mercutio? - [info]pyrrah, 2007-07-20 05:09 pm UTC
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R&J het smut! - [info]glossing2, 2007-07-20 06:46 pm UTC

[info]go_shirly
2007-07-20 04:51 am UTC (link)
I'm so glad I've read the book, now I don't have to be worried about being spoiled by anything and get to enjoy my wank freely.

*frolicks in spoodge*

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[info]velvet_mace
2007-07-20 04:53 am UTC (link)
Also -- does anyone besides me find the "No speaking out against the President" clause to be a wee bit... how should I say this... Bush biased?

You know, maybe it's just because I'm rewatching Babylon 5, but For some reason I keep seeing LJ being sponsored by the Nightwatch.

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[info]knightrider
2007-07-20 04:54 am UTC (link)
Haha, I came looking for this and JF was down. Fortifying itself for Potterdammerung, maybe?

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[info]churri
2007-07-20 05:06 am UTC (link)
There is not enough popcorn in the world for this.

Not. Enough.

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[info]rekall
2007-07-20 05:07 am UTC (link)
LJ is acting like an ex-girlfriend who is insanely jealous that everyone is fawning over Potterdammerung and is now acting out to gain attention.

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[info]willywanka
2007-07-20 05:14 am UTC (link)
My clarifications, let me show you them:

We hear the community asking for clarification on what's allowed and what's not allowed. People far smarter than us have been trying for years to wrap language around these definitions, and it's not possible.

Not possible because the melted cheese on the nachos is getting cool, or not possible because people far smarter than you still can't give the 3rd grade language arts class a run for their money?

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[info]velvet_mace
2007-07-20 05:21 am UTC (link)
Oooh clarifications of the clarifications!. Will LJ dig itself deeper? Inquiring minds want to know!

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(no subject) - [info]barankhy, 2007-07-20 05:54 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2007-07-20 09:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kalika_maxwell, 2007-07-20 10:56 am UTC
Reposted
iwanttobeasleep
2007-07-20 05:38 am UTC (link)
I find it more than suspicious funny that Livejournal waited this long to come up with the ever so complex concept of "We're not hosting child porn no mo." And ever so intelligent, since everyone was just forgetting about it and changing their "Hoist the colors" (*shudder*) icons back to "My OTP is young boyxyoung boy!"

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Re: Reposted - [info]eldritch, 2007-07-20 05:39 am UTC
Re: Reposted - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-07-20 05:42 am UTC
Re: Reposted - [info]eldritch, 2007-07-20 05:46 am UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2007-07-20 05:40 am UTC (link)
I thought of asking about fanfiction. But I've also been told it's mostly about the super-big fandoms (i.e. Harry Potter). Guess this means I can write angsty Serge/Gilbert hatesex without fear of being yanked!

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[info]napalmnacey
2007-07-20 05:46 am UTC (link)
it's important for all writers to be aware of the new contours of the law.

Contours of the law... is that an official, real law term? Would Phoenix Wright approve?

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[info]passerby
2007-07-20 06:00 am UTC (link)
LJ: Where clarification means throwing some more mud on the windscreen during the failstorm.

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flightstothesea
2007-07-20 07:26 am UTC (link)
It is hilarious how hard LJ fails at communication. Or common sense. Or good business practices. Or not being condescending to its customers. Or at actually doing anything useful about pedos.

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[info]acciosnitch
2007-07-20 07:30 am UTC (link)
I bought a permanent account for this?

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(no subject) - [info]pyrrah, 2007-07-20 05:13 pm UTC

[info]mythdefied
2007-07-20 07:39 am UTC (link)
So, so, so happy I passed on that permanent account thing.

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[info]juppy
2007-07-20 07:45 am UTC (link)
I'm happy with my overpriced Tomtom instead of the 150 I was going to use for a Perm account. I think moving over to Insane Journal is a sure thing for me now.

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[info]wanktasticbus
2007-07-20 07:55 am UTC (link)
Oh, goddamnit. Not this shit again.

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[info]khym_chanur
2007-07-20 08:05 am UTC (link)
I would think that it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a great way to clear up all the confusion would be to post the guidelines/rules/procedures that the Abuse Team will be following, concluding with "We are still in the process of forming our policy, so this is subject to change; if it changes, we'll post the changes". So, either:

1) The PR people 6A has a really stupid.

2) They want to keep the Abuse Team's policies secret for whatever reason (don't want to scare the customers off, consider it to be a trade secret, whatever).

Or am I missing something?

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[info]eilan
2007-07-20 08:19 am UTC (link)
Plus comments like "you are all just spoiled brats who want to write Harry/Dobby porn". (I'd link to the exact comments, but I'm a spoilerphobe.)

There are no comments about Harry/Dobby, I was referring to things like this:

http://community.livejournal.com/lj_biz/241182.html?thread=10949406#t10949406

http://community.livejournal.com/lj_biz/241182.html?thread=10997790#t10997790

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-07-20 08:16 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-07-20 09:25 pm UTC
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[info]blackjackrocket
2007-07-20 08:33 am UTC (link)
I wish they'd get to my question about if we don't know the character's age. I write smut about Team Rocket agents and we don't know any of their ages (only that Jesse is apparently over 20 and that Giovanni was a "brat" to his mother 20 years ago). I seem to remember one of the official sites claiming that J&J were TWELVE some time ago, and while that's obviously not true, if LJ used that as a basis...

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-07-20 02:20 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2007-07-21 12:06 am UTC

[info]imadra_blue
2007-07-20 09:03 am UTC (link)
They're clearly part of the conspiracy that's behind the Book 7 leak. It was Barak, cackling like a fiend, determined to ruin the fandom that practically owns his site, that leaked the book. Or maybe he wrote the fake and bound it and posted the photos. Now that he's realized JKR is coming to get him, both wands blazing, he's decided to take LiveJournal down with him, and is clearly hiding behind Bush to protect him. This isn't just the Potterdammerung; it's the Wanknarok. Not into HP? No problem, head over to [info]lj_biz and wank over obscenity laws or child porn or something. I'm sure you'll find something! It's like the Wal-Mart of Wank. Multiple departments, at a low, low price, open 24/7.

Luna was all out of tinfoil hats, so she loaned me one of her mother's saucepans. *adjusts tin pot on head and skips off*

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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2007-07-20 09:06 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]eilan, 2007-07-20 09:19 am UTC
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