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annepackrat ([info]annepackrat) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-08-06 08:55:00


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Current mood:Flippant
Current music:I Was Made to Hit in America - the Beck opening
Entry tags:gay, homophobia, videogames

Both Gay and Straight Gamers Like to Wank
GayGamer is a site that covers, you guessed it, news and stories relevant to the homosexual gaming population. Starting on Wednesday the site suffered repeated Denial of Service attacks and was eventually able to ban the IP that was causing them by Friday. Then on Friday evening the site's forums and chat room were flooded with more things meant to bog down the site, including hate speech, overlarge images and even death threats. This leads many to conclude that both the DOS's and the subsequent attacks are all part of one huge hate crime.

Kotaku and GayGamer have a history of sharing stories and working together. Flynn de Marco, who owns GayGamer, is also the weekend editor for Kotaku. Thus Kotaku decides to report about the attack.



Many of the comments express outrage over the attack and wish Flynn the best of luck in catching the culprit. Several others though question just why a site like GayGamer exists in the first place. Then there are discussions about what makes a site straight or gay, whether being gay is just like being black, if being gay is unnatural or not, homosexual penguins, men in thongs vs. booth babes, whether gay couples kiss in public just to get attention, if homosexuality is a choice or not, and comparisons to women wearing skimpy clothing who are just asking to be raped. There's also posts comparing homosexuals to pasta-lovers and Christian World of Warcraft guilds. And yes, Godwin's law is evoked on Page Two of the comments. Eventually one of the big joes at Kotaku, Ashcraft, shows up and brings his ban hammer along with him.

Some of the more choice comments:

From Systmbetatester:
they are stereotyping themselves. its one thing to make fanbased games. there are plenty of sites open to gay and straight i dont see why they want to go to a singled site for themselves. i guess a gay nerd as x2 the trouble of getting ass then a straight one. anyway my guess is this is a PR stunt.

From Jawzxy:
Flynn, I couldn't agree more. I mean, it's difficult to find a "straight" gaming site that doesn't have codes to remove Lara Croft's clothing.

From Heihachi vs. Kazuya:
I never knew being born with a certain skin color was the same as being homosexual till I read some of the bright comments in this section. Having people hate you because of your skin color, I dare say, is different from people hating you because of the way you have sex.

I don't pretend to understand homosexuality but I do know that the two are fundamentally different.


From Grosolon (who apparently thinks run-on sentences and ignoring punctuation will prove his point better):
OK, a few of you made some good points,especially Blaggers.But why is the site named gaygamer in the first place?Isn't that like asking for some hate?
I know that now gay people and not only them(with no offence intended)like to constantly remind other people that they are in fact gay or-insert opinion here-and that they are allowed to be and to show us all.You don't see straight people constantly reminding others that they are straight and guess what,no one attacks their sexual orientation.
I've seen countless gay couples in the cinema starting to make out not because they wanted to but to show us different people that they can do what ever they want because they can.
So my point is that the owner of the site and the site itself also has a blame in all this so all of you shouldn't just jump to conclusions.


From TomSkylark in response to Grosolon's comment:
Thank you, sir, for making my point exactly. And, for the record, how do you KNOW the gay couples at the movies aren't making out because they want to? Are you psychic? Are they part of some militant corps of queers who simply go around faking intimacy to shock unreformed straight people?

And then the Anti-gay comments really get going:

Uncletonii starts us off with this post that won't name names, but does point some fingers:

Now I don't approve of hateful behavior and comments but there is a certain group of people who throw their morals to the side and complain everyone attacks them, not to point any fingers are anyone specifically but...

RonaldST adds his support:
Since I am against perversion, I wouldn't call this a target of hate crime.

And Marius shows up for a truely enlightening discussion about how being gay is unnatural and an illness:

I support the attacks. Homosexuality is a horrible illness and should not be using our innocent games to promote itself to spread further.
Just the very concept is stupid. You don't see any sites like "straight gamer". Sexuality and games itself is two completely different subjects also.


It seems that people like you just cant accept that alot of people are rightfully against homosexuality. If you are referring to nazism you surely prove to be just as bad yourself, claiming everything against your opinion is wrong or delutional.

There is a reason why homosexuals can not execute the perfect expression of love, which is creating a child together and passing on their bloodline. They are simply not meant to be together by nature.

Talking about maths, you simply can not ignore that humans has to have a loving relationship to raise a healthy child for approx 20 years into adulthood. It is not like tigers or polar bears where the male sperms in the woman and runs away.

I'm leaving this discussion now. Happy that someone has taken such a good stand against homosexuality. But I still do not believe in the way they did it.
I would much rather like that these people against homosexuality would organize and open their own sites instead of crashing others. Because by doing so you are robbing someone for freedom of speech.
But it is here I stand wondering maybe someone deserves to loose their freedom of speech, or certainly recieve great oposition once in a while. I don't believe in promoting sexuality, especially not a bad one as this.


Mercatfat makes a counter argument:
If you hate teh gays, then I'd better not catch you jerking it to lesbian-themed porn. Not even if their kisses of passion extend their tongues deep into the other's throat. No matter how juicy those bosoms are and how effortlessly their nipples rise to attention when gently licked and subsequently stroked by a firm, but gentle hand.
It's still the gay, and you should be ashamed of glamorizing their sin with your wasted seed.


ColbyCheese figures out the greatest blog tagline ever:
That makes me think, maybe there should be a cross blog mashup: GayGamer meets BlackGamer - "We only play with big joysticks!"



There's over 300 comments and the wank is still growing.

And PastepunkJames will wrap us up with this:
Well, I'd be worried, but knowing gaygamer, they'll only come back stronger and more fabulous.

UPDATE: GayGamer is up and running again and is indeed more fabulous then before. Just look at the picture at the top of the post if you don't believe me.

And Kotaku makes a post about GayGamer's recovery and of course there's wank there now as well.


From Nozedive13:
hacked themselves for pub. normal game sites not good enough gay people? stop isolating yourselves and you might see equality. but you dont want that, you want to prove you're leet and gay at the same time

From Chowchilla Charlie:
I'm cool with gays. They are a very clean people. And they have been, ever since they came to this country from France.




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[info]daringu
2007-08-06 04:21 pm UTC (link)
innocent games

HOW did that get linked to an image of porn game stores in Akihabara in my head?

It is not like tigers or polar bears where the male sperms in the woman and runs away.

Or like gay penguins that raise a surrogate child, either. *snort*

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[info]whimsy_chan
2007-08-06 04:43 pm UTC (link)
I'm headdesking already. I think I'll stop reading now, before my head explodes.

(Reposted because I win at typing.)

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[info]confluence
2007-08-06 05:06 pm UTC (link)
Wow. If there's a "retarded, obnoxious anti-gay argument bingo" out there somewhere, Grosolon and Marius must have coloured in the whole board between them.

D:

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(no subject) - [info]marumae, 2007-08-06 05:36 pm UTC

[info]vigilanterodent
2007-08-06 05:45 pm UTC (link)
i may be straight, and proud i mate in the way nature/god/evolution intended to "pass on [my] dna"

I'm afraid giving loot in exchange for someone playing a female Night Elf running around in her skivvies in Ironforge is not, in fact, mating in the way nature intended.

And I think we all know that's the closest this fellow gets to male/female sex.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-08-06 05:46 pm UTC (link)
I support the attacks. Homosexuality is a horrible illness and should not be using our innocent games to promote itself to spread further.

*coughsputterdead*

Mercatfat wins, though.

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[info]chaootaku
2007-08-06 06:14 pm UTC (link)
Mercatfat wins at approximately fifty-six different internets for that post.

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If it wasn't for that horse...
[info]goblin
2007-08-06 06:17 pm UTC (link)
I love the logic of "the male sperms in the woman and runs away"=teh gheys destroy children's innocence!

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I suppose you wouldn't have spent that year in college? - [info]vejiicakes, 2007-08-08 06:03 am UTC

[info]dwib
2007-08-06 06:45 pm UTC (link)
I love the guys who are all "I'm not pro-gay or anything, but DDoSing a website for gays is totally uncool." How enlightened!

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-08-07 12:46 am UTC

[info]soupspooks
2007-08-06 06:48 pm UTC (link)
I don't even know where to begin. It just hurts all over.

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[info]karmyn75
2007-08-06 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Maybe they're just really fond of the drag queens in Runaway.

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rachelthedemon
2007-08-06 07:02 pm UTC (link)
There is a reason why homosexuals can not execute the perfect expression of love, which is creating a child together and passing on their bloodline.

Even if I weren't a lesbian, my Inner CF would still want to beat this person bloody.

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[info]passerby
2007-08-06 07:08 pm UTC (link)
i guess a gay nerd as x2 the trouble of getting ass then a straight one.

Nah, see, that's the glory of being gay. You're guaranteed to get ass 99.9% more often than any straight nerd.

But why is the site named gaygamer in the first place?Isn't that like asking for some hate?

But, officer, the domain name was girlsintightdressesthatplaywarcraft.com! They were begging for it!

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[info]sunqist
2007-08-06 07:21 pm UTC (link)
I need to get a tee shirt printed up with the definition of "heteronormative" across the front. You don't see straight people constantly reminding others that they are straight. Gah.

Actually, while I'm at it I feel like I should get "miscegenation" done, too. Clearly there is a need for it.

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(no subject) - [info]miss_arel, 2007-08-06 09:11 pm UTC
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[info]enoh
2007-08-06 07:22 pm UTC (link)
I think I shall not be clicking that link. I'm resting my arm after the anityaoi and vaginapagina wank.

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(no subject) - [info]annepackrat, 2007-08-06 07:37 pm UTC
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[info]vzg
2007-08-06 07:37 pm UTC (link)
*headdesk into infinity* This is possibly the first wank that has made me actually want to cry from the stupid of it all.

I seriously hope some childfree people (or single parents/people with divorced parents/people with gay parents) come to smack some more sense into that ass.

And those last three comments here win. It is nice to see the light shining through in some of these wanks.

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[info]tez
2007-08-06 07:59 pm UTC (link)
That makes me think, maybe there should be a cross blog mashup: GayGamer meets BlackGamer - "We only play with big joysticks!"

This? This line has made my entire day.

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(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2007-08-07 01:03 pm UTC

[info]chikane
2007-08-06 08:03 pm UTC (link)

If you hate teh gays, then I'd better not catch you jerking it to lesbian-themed porn. Not even if their kisses of passion extend their tongues deep into the other's throat. No matter how juicy those bosoms are and how effortlessly their nipples rise to attention when gently licked and subsequently stroked by a firm, but gentle hand.
It's still the gay, and you should be ashamed of glamorizing their sin with your wasted seed.


I may love this person, I think.

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(no subject) - [info]sandyclaws68, 2007-08-06 09:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]soupspooks, 2007-08-07 01:42 am UTC

[info]hallidae
2007-08-06 08:03 pm UTC (link)
Huzzah for the last three commentors!

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[info]ayezur
2007-08-06 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Given the homophobic language and behavior that can run freeeeeeeee on other gaming sites, I understand totally why gay gamers would want to create their own space. Women gamers do the same.

Suck it up and deal, fanbrats.

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(no subject) - [info]nini_sa, 2007-08-06 08:11 pm UTC
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[info]kadath
2007-08-06 08:35 pm UTC (link)
There is no, I mean no group of people more obnoxiously, dug-in bigoted than gamers, video or tabletop. The demographic skews 20something white kid, and it shows.

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(no subject) - [info]shatfat, 2007-08-11 07:00 pm UTC

[info]sandyclaws68
2007-08-06 09:03 pm UTC (link)
There is too much stoopid there to process without copious amounts of booze.

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-08-07 04:50 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-08-08 06:02 am UTC

[info]miss_arel
2007-08-06 09:20 pm UTC (link)
GayGamer is up and running again and is indeed more fabulous then before. Just look at the picture at the top of the post if you don't believe me.

That... is indeed, quite fabulous. Wow. *thumbs up*

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[info]lollercoaster
2007-08-06 09:27 pm UTC (link)
lots of wank in the joystiq thread as well though I guess it's more of the same thing.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/05/gaygamer-net-offline-following-hate-attack/


Or wait, maybe we should just continue using general gaming sites like this one that highlight all games, as they appeal to everyone, from every walk of life.

yeeaaaah call me when they start dedicating posts to Dante's abs.

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(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2007-08-06 09:34 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lysana, 2007-08-09 12:53 am UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2007-08-06 09:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm not actually going to read those comments (Kotaku fanboys get vitriolic enough about Sony vs. Microsoft, I don't want to read hate about things that actually matter), I'm just going to take solace in the fact that the Kotaku editors ban people like mad and are very pro-gaygamer.

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[info]meammouse
2007-08-06 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Sperms. What a fascinating verb from a spectacular bigot.

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