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dracothelizard (dracothelizard) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-08-12 14:10:00


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Entry tags:fandom: top gear

You know how most communities and forums dedicated to Real People will usually have the 'will we allow fanfic based on the real person on the boards' discussion when it's just been established?

Well, Hammond Heaven, a MSN group dedicated to Richard Hammond, the short one from Top Gear, decides to have it three years after it's been put up.

It all starts when one poster says all the sexual fics are disturbing her, because people should keep their fantasies about real people to themselves.



There are the usual arguements of 'if you don't like the fanfic, you don't have to read it!' and 'we can't ban all the fanfic, some of it isn't even romantic!' and 'don't stifle my creativity!' and angry red font, even. There are some attempts at peace-keeping, because weren't we all HAPPY as a group before this?

Some fanfic-writers are beginning to feel slightly guilty, but get quickly reassured that their writing is very well-written and that they are talented (personally, I disagree, but hey, some people love Mary Sue and her less famous cousin, Psycho Mary Sue)

Solutions are given: making the fanfic section only visible to members, putting the sexual fics on another forum, but people still fear for the worst: "This will lead to censorship and sanitisation on other threads though....... we'll only be allowed to talk about how nice the ickle wee clouds look today, soon..."

However! "Kitty and others, its not censorship, its having respect for the guys and their families" But there is disagreement on how they should be respected: "We respect them by not reinacting our dreams out for real, or even trying and should be pleased about that!" And also, the person making the aforementioned arguement has Asperger's, so tick that off on your wank bingo card. She also has an interesting definition of discipline: "The fact that none of us camp outside any of their houses night after night is a good thing. It shows we're disciplined. Keeping that discipline in mind, they'll know that nothing untoward will happen to them,"

People get upset in CAPSLOCK and demand that people MOVE ON and can they get back to discussing how lovely Richard Hammond is now please?

Well, they can't. Or at least one person can't, and she gets upset in BIG angry red font! With a big angry smilie!

And another person says she doesn't feel guilty about reading the smutty fanfic, because "When I read the fics I never think the names are real people, I am creating the ficitional character described, who happens to look like James, Richard or Jeremy" And that's not fantasing about real people at all! No! She's fantasising about FICTIONAL people who just happen to look like them!

Everyone then starts hugging everybody else to make up after their big fight, and start discussing Ben & Jerry's ice cream, but no, peace does not yet reign! Long after the pointing out of other forums for smutty fanfic, there has to be the "Why not start up your own group on MSN?" discussion, even though by now most people have calmed down, and things start over again, because 'don't like, don't read' doesn't cut it, because the fic is still there and is still disrespecting the Top Gear presenters!

It'll continue. Oh yes, the discussion will continue.


And I know that it might look like a board made up of minors, but the people who had their ages up on their profiles were all in their 20s and 30s.



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[info]endymionic
2007-08-12 02:54 pm UTC (link)
Wank on Hammond Heaven? Faaaaar overdue. I always feel dirty when I go there to scour for new Hamster pics :\

*sits back and thinks of Tennant/Hammond, because it is ZOMG ev0l and wrong*

Mmm, sexual fantasies.

Also? The 'Our Richard' prayer is just freaky.

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dracothelizard
2007-08-12 02:59 pm UTC (link)
"*sits back and thinks of Tennant/Hammond, because it is ZOMG ev0l and wrong*"

It's the 'twins having sex' fantasy with the excuse that they're not technically twins, they just look alike excuse, isn't it?

You haven't seen freaky until you've seen a Mary Sue for Clarkson.

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-12 04:24 pm UTC (link)
THERE IS TENNANT/HAMMOND?

omg.

Also yay Hammond Heaven being wanky, they're ridiculous and make me laugh a lot.

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(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2007-08-12 04:33 pm UTC

[info]mistressrenet
2007-08-12 05:21 pm UTC (link)
If I were Hammond, I think I'd be far more disturbed by the prayer than by the RPF. But I'm weird, too.

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(no subject) - [info]munchkinott, 2007-08-14 05:58 pm UTC

[info]southerngaelic
2007-08-12 11:01 pm UTC (link)
Mmmm....

*has now added Hammond into her OT3, making : Hammond/Doctor/Master/Jack OT4 kilt party!*

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(no subject) - [info]honorh, 2007-08-12 11:46 pm UTC
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[info]gusty
2007-08-12 04:04 pm UTC (link)
""The fact that none of us camp outside any of their houses night after night is a good thing. It shows we're disciplined...

"We're down to only three nights a week now! That takes inner strength!"

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[info]redwolf
2007-08-12 11:29 pm UTC (link)
Well, as long it's not three nights in a row...

Would it be wrong to send the Top Gear guys bear traps for just such an occasion? Although cleaning the dead and maimed stalkers out of the traps in the morning could be a bit mucky.

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-12 04:07 pm UTC (link)
Ah, it always makes me "sad" that TG slashers are so absolutely non-wanky. Nothing is ever happening on TGS! I remember the discussion about putting the family members in the fics we had at the very beginning. It looked something like this:
SOMEONE1: I don't feel comfortable with that *sadface*
SOMEONE2: NOEZ! We don't want people to feel uncomfortable *sadface*
SOMEONE3: But I see nothing wrong with it. I have nothing against reading about Hamster's family... but I don't want other members that do feel bad about it *sadface*
SOMEONE4: We should vote XD
SOMEONE1, 2 and 3: YES! XDXD
SOMEONE4: *checks the results* Ok, fics with the family members stay
SOMEONE1: :(:(:(:(:(:(:( Then I guess I'm going to have to leave the community :(:(:(:(
SOMEONE2: *cries* FERWELL, FAIR FRIEND!!!! STIG BLESS YOU!
SOMEONE3: *sobs* OUR DOOR ARE ALWAYS OPEN FOR YOU! COME BACK ANY TIME YOU WANT!
SOMEONE4: *sadface* LET THE POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR BE WITH YOU!
SOMEONE1: *hugs everyone and leaves*

Kirke_Novak@LJ

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dracothelizard
2007-08-12 04:14 pm UTC (link)
Personally I find it refreshing to have a real person fandom where the slashers are slightly more sane than the het-people! Besides, even if the slashers get properly wanky, still can't report it on account of that community being f-locked.

But at least we have the smutfic to help us over this lack of fandom wankery.

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[info]demonbean
2007-08-12 05:34 pm UTC (link)
Disreseptful!? How? A FANFIC IS A PIECE OF FICTION! The clue is in the title, Fanfic! Made up, not real! Do you honestly think that the guys are goning to be bothered by beng written about in that way?Personally, I very much doubt it, because they have more important things to worry about!

"Disreseptful" makes me think of antiseptic. The typos really made the thread, I think.

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[info]slythwolf
2007-08-12 05:47 pm UTC (link)
Wait, they're patting themselves on the back for not being crazy stalkers? I thought that was the default.

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-12 06:09 pm UTC (link)
You get the impression that they're ex-crazy stalkers. They're now in therapy, and congratulating themselves on how well they're doing.

Madmogs on lj

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-12 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, that was pretty much what I took away from that. Which is worrying...

g@lj

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[info]the_sun_is_up
2007-08-13 03:26 am UTC (link)
Fangirls: Yay we're creepy stalkers, but we could potentially be creepier if we weren't so disciplined! Go us!

Wouldn't want the creepy stalking to get out of hand now would we.

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-12 06:05 pm UTC (link)
Wait, there are people out there fantisising about Jeremy Clarkson?!?

....Well, I suppose it takes all sorts.

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[info]haunted
2007-08-12 06:10 pm UTC (link)
Hammon I can understand, as he's cute. James has a certain English gentleman-ly charm, I guess. But Clarkson is just a overblown, pompous arsehole.

Oh wait. Fandom.

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dracothelizard
2007-08-12 06:21 pm UTC (link)
I expect it's because he does things like this.

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-13 12:39 am UTC (link)
"Wait, there are people out there fantisising about Jeremy Clarkson?!?"

I... I've endured the Harry Potter Porn, the Furry Porn, the Ivor-the-Engine porn (don't ask!), but this... O God, my soul has died the death of a thousand cuts...

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[info]hooverdam
2007-08-12 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Do you honestly think that the guys are goning to be bothered by beng written about in that way?

Having come across fanfic about people I know, including a family member, I should ask sometime.

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2007-08-12 10:21 pm UTC
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[info]out_bottle
2007-08-13 02:41 am UTC (link)
The fact that none of us camp outside any of their houses night after night is a good thing. It shows we're disciplined.

Or that you all really suck at camping.

Come on, a tent, a lantern, a sleeping bag... not that hard.

Just make sure you hang your food so the bears can't get at it.

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[info]munchkinott
2007-08-13 05:09 am UTC (link)
Aww, HH wank is no fun without names.

*chews handful of popcorn*

"This will lead to censorship and sanitisation on other threads though....... we'll only be allowed to talk about how nice the ickle wee clouds look today, soon..."

Oh, for the accompanying Snape-related fanart...

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(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2007-08-13 11:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]munchkinott, 2007-08-13 04:35 pm UTC
Okay, now I'm getting crossover bunnies ... - [info]urpletastic, 2007-08-14 09:39 am UTC
Re: Okay, now I'm getting crossover bunnies ... - [info]munchkinott, 2007-08-14 06:00 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2007-08-13 05:29 am UTC (link)
If they're fantasizing about fictional people who only happen to look like them, then why are they posting their fics on a comm dedicated to the real, non-fictional people?

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[info]spleen
2007-08-13 07:52 am UTC (link)
I've got this strange urge to take up a career in filmmaking -- just to be able to direct a Top Gear spoofing gay porn film. Called Top Queer, I'm thinking.

/random

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-13 03:09 pm UTC (link)
I've been there once it scared me I'll not be going back.
Draco you are a much braver woman than I.

(Talcat on lj)

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-25 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Aww, bless...
Well, it takes all kinds of people.
It makes me want to post a drabble there with Jeremy and Richard (with wives) as swingers. Then, to spice things up, the guys decide to accompany James to a private S&M gay club own by Human!TGD. Then I'll sit back with a drink and watch their heads explode.
Odo from LJ
*kidnaps Mary Sue, throws her in the boot of the Veyron and hands the keys to Stig* (Psycho Mary Sue only saved because she's crack!)

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(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2007-08-25 06:56 pm UTC

 
   
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