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micchi ([info]micchi) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-08-20 07:44:00

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Current mood:Caffeinated
Current music:Joe Satriani - Surfing With The Alien

Thoughts On Yaoi. Or Gay Rights. Or Homophobes.
From a little mousie over at [info]wank_report, with apologies for bastardizing the language used herein and making it my own. And my first post at JournalFen is, of course, wank. Whoohoo!

With the cutest little bunny icon, someone going by the charming moniker of dmitric300 shares Thoughts On Yaoi.

It seems that people who write, read, and generally enjoy yaoi/slash don't really advocate gay rights. At least, not really. And clearly, yaoi/slash as a whole advocates nothing but the general right to be a pervert.

Or maybe he's just upset at being told he's homophobic, when all he wants is to not have that darn gaynessity shoved down his throat. Or maybe it's all the yaoi/slash icons on fanficrants when he's browsing ElJay at work. Of course, it could always be just that he's upset that not everyone interprets a character, and more importantly, that character's sexuality the same way he does. Who knows?

But whether this charming young specimen is a troll or a sockpuppet; well, all signs point to yes.

Comments are, so far, surprisingly mature. Except for the occasional OP is a homophobe!.

Points of interest:

This gem of a thread is my personal favorite; commenter responds with lengthy comment, OP picks up on a single thing, hilarity ensues.

"Technically LJ will let me post Tub girl on here in full resolution and it will be a while before it comes down, long enough to disturb all of you. However that isn't the courteous thing to do. Also posting a really graphic incest rape story on a board that you know kids frequent isn't all that nice either, even if it isn't breaking site rules. I meant common etiquette, not bending to my will. (all though it is nice when people bend to your will)"

In this thread, dmitric300 may or may not be truly angry about people getting icky yaoi in his nice shounen series: "Anyways, naruto is a shounen manga so that implies that all of the main characters will not get into any gay relationships (that would make it shounen-ai or shoujou-ai) or have explicit sex (that would make it hentai)."

Because what happens off-screen defines the genre, as opposed to...I dunno. The stuff that happens onscreen. Drat, that would be using Earth logic.

Mousie's favorite thread, here, shows the OP backpedaling and often.

"Perhaps I view canon differently from others. When I look at whether something is possible or someone is 'in character' I also include the genre in which the creative work resides. If I were to see an unsupported shounen-ai relationhip in a shounen-ai series I would think nothing of it, such a relationship is quite possible in that world. However in a shounen series like Naruto it is extremely improbable for two main male characters to ever show interest in each other and I treat it differently. A care bear rape-fic would illicit a negative response while it may not in a more mature series."

As kutsuwamushi puts it, "I'm going to ignore the fact that you're changing your argument from "we'd know if they were bisexual because they wouldn't be acting straight" to "homosexuality doesn't happen in this genre...""

And then the Mod Hat comes up -- mikkeneko issues the ultimatum -- One comment to prove lack of trolling, or it's banhammer and ship it out.

ETA:

Bonus links!

From iwanttobeasleep, Antiyaoi meta!

From [info]zannechaos via means other than journaling service (also pointed out downthread by [info]ladybirdsleeps): For those of you upset at the lack of this being FFR proper for the mod tags, we have Repeat Offender Sign! (An excellent thread, and totally related re: the flaunting of icons, can be found here.

ETA 2: *facepalm* Finish reading the comments before you edit. Got it.


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