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seiberwing ([info]seiberwing) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-09-06 13:23:00


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Entry tags:fandom: last blood, not good with criticism, webcomics

On page 1066 of the bighuge RPG.net image thread, a comic page is posted that mocks what is, in the words of Ciaphas Cane, "a really shitty webcomic".

Through the magic of interwebs, the author Bobby Crosby shows up and takes offense.



LOL. First, I have no clue what modern powergaming sensibilities are. Second, "Last Blood" uses almost zero cliches and goes against almost all traditions while creating lots of new ones, like a totally new origin for zombies that ties them together with vampires. It's the most original zombie or vampire story that I've ever heard of. I'm guessing you're someone that I banned from the comments. I agree that it's a shitty comic, though -- could be a million times better.

I'm quite confused by that rip-off image.


Ciaphas Cain engages the intruder!

The cliches are more of the modern Ann Rice variety, and where the powergaming comes from... well, allow me to explain good sir!

1.) Vampires don't appear to be, well, vampires. They're superheroes (or super anti-heroes, whatever) that happen to drink blood. Aside from that they only seem to be vulnerable to stakes. They are otherwise indistinguishable from humans and, indeed, seem to enjoy everything mortals do with the added bonus of insane superpowers.
2.) Vampires with katanas. Vampires and katanas and Hitler.
3.) Unstoppable zombie horde that appears in the space of around about 3 days, whittling 6 billion humans down to what, 300 including Mexico? That's ridiculous. Maybe if you'd trapped all of humanity in one giant box, but c'mon.
4.) Vampire sluts, yay!
5.) There appears to be pretty much no drawback to becoming a zombie when you're a vampire unless you don't like painful transformations, given that you get all your vampiric powers and sentience back eventually and can now control an army of zombies which can wipe out the world's population of humans in less than a week. And best of all, you wouldn't depend on blood anymore!

And now to get away from the more cliche stuff and powergaming-style nonsense, we just delve into the uniquely bizarre:

In the space of one evening, our human female lead goes from being so distressed by the existence of vampires that she throws up all over the place, works up a homicidal rage, then suddenly just accepts them, goes back to teaching class and by evening wants to jump the male vampire lead's bones. Well, I hope she brushed her teeth first.


Bobby claims that no, his comic is not cliche! Also he's never heard of this "Blade" or read any other zombie/vampire books and he doesn't know what a katana is, so he must not be cliche at all. Also he hates it, even though "it's already being published and quite successfully, and I'm about to option the film rights for a large sum of money."

(Note: You'll need an RPG account to see the specific forum containing the first thread, where the few pages of wank are interspersed with random images, but it's not essential to seeing the forum for the second and larger wanky thread.)


He and Bobby go back and forth for three or so pages attempting to disprove each others' points until the wank merits its own thread. Bobby continues to be amazing.


Please tell me of a more original zombie or vampire story. I've never once said that it has no cliches, as you lied about. Of course it has cliches. Everything has cliches. But it has the least amount of cliches of any zombie or vampire story that I've ever heard of. ---Despite the fact that he's admitted to being exposed to very little of either genre. This is assuaged by his claims that since he's never been exposed to the material, he can't be using the cliches.

Well, it's the most popular horror comic online and it's had well over 100,000 pageviews today and I'm about to sell it to Hollywood, so yeah, that was my problem and it didn't work out well.

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Wow, do I? Did I give you that impression when I said that I HATE the comic? Or was it when I said there's no reason to care about any of the characters? JEEZ, have you read anything that I've said at all? My whole f*cking point is that it's insane for someone's main criticism about it to be that it's cliche, since it's the least cliche zombie story I've ever heard of and it actually has original elements to it, unlike almost ALL other zombie stories. Don't know how many times I have to say this.--And yet...he's in here defending it.

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Did you skip the part where I said that of course it has tons of cliches? Just because something has the LEAST amount of something doesn't mean it has NONE of something. My point is that almost all zombie stores are INSANELY unoriginal and mine is simply the least unoriginal one I've ever heard of -- and I've heard literally hundreds of people tell me the same thing, that it's the most original zombie story they've ever heard of.--The lurkers support him in email!

And the grandest of all:

I'm not contradicting myself in any conceivable way.



Then Bobby got banned for a month and the thread degenerates into random banter.

EDIT: Apparently this is neither his first first nor second wank offense.

SECOND EDIT: And now he's wanking on GAFF.




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[info]airborne_rodent
2007-09-07 02:53 am UTC (link)
Bobby Crosby

I read that as Bing Crosby and thought "Isn't he dead?"

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magpiggles
2007-09-07 03:12 am UTC (link)
But Zombies are hotter than vampires.

I see a distinct flaw in his plot.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-09-07 03:16 am UTC (link)
I don't.

Bring on the bones.

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[info]duraniedrama
2007-09-07 03:14 am UTC (link)
He keeps harping on the fact that HIS zombies are vampires that have starved themselves and NOBODY else has done that.

So fucking what if nobody has? This is geekdom at its finest--MY idea is a unique snowflake so you should bow down before it, whether or not I can actually write compellingly.

Changing the rules for vampires to suit your preferences doesn't automatically make them any more interesting. Or any less cliche. They're VAMPIRES, they're one of the oldest tropes in the book. If you think they're cliche (and they are, and there's no avoiding it) then don't write about them.

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[info]some_dude
2007-09-07 08:33 am UTC (link)
Seriously -- My vampires ride unicycles and turn into flying squirrels! Truly I have created a work of genius!

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[info]puipui
2007-09-08 12:24 am UTC (link)
I'd read it.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-09-08 12:34 am UTC (link)
Actually, I believe I saw a movie involving vampires on unicycles.

Not the squirrels, though.

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magpiggles
2007-09-07 02:17 pm UTC (link)
MY vampires are zombies that are starved from brains. TAKE THAT

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[info]catslash
2007-09-07 03:45 am UTC (link)
[Disclaimer: Keyboard borked. Typos rampant.]

O, so tats ow Bobby Crosby ets injured. Its not bein a delicate sortstop flower. Its constant wankin! Its all so clear now.

First Lee oldber (te name of our local sports ancor), and now tis. It breaks my brain wen te wankers steal perfectly ood names. Stop it!

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[info]hickorydickory
2007-09-07 04:07 am UTC (link)
It sounds like you're typing with your mouth full.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2007-09-07 12:23 pm UTC (link)
"My story did not use any cliches. I repeat, my story was entirely original. Well.. it depends on what you mean by original..."

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[info]evanwaters
2007-09-08 09:30 pm UTC (link)
God, I was here for this.

Sadly he'd already been banned by the time I found out, so there was no time to jump in.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-09-08 09:48 pm UTC (link)
I was considering doing so, but thought it more fun just to post it here.

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[info]miraba
2007-09-11 06:00 am UTC (link)
Most amusingly, he registered on GAFF after someone made fun of him there. I wonder how many pages it will go on for.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-09-11 06:03 am UTC (link)
Got a link?

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[info]miraba
2007-09-11 02:16 pm UTC (link)
It's in the Original Fiction forum.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-09-11 02:33 pm UTC (link)
*looks*

Oh, Bobby.

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[info]bloody_vixen
2007-09-12 02:55 am UTC (link)
I'm hoping it will be as long (or more, a GAFFER noted that Bobby can't be relentless) as Shebakoby abortion wank. Fifty-two pages and still wanking!

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[info]seiberwing
2007-09-12 02:58 am UTC (link)
...hold on hold on, I know that chick. What did she do?

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[info]miraba
2007-09-12 03:01 am UTC (link)
How did I miss that one?

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[info]bloody_vixen
2007-09-12 03:10 am UTC (link)
It's in the news section, search for the Ohio Legislator Floats Extreme Pro-Life Law. It went from OMG FETI/FETUS ARE PWECIOUS to SRZ DISCUSSIONS ON MORAL ABSOLUTISM!

Expect loads of tl;dr.

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[info]seiberwing
2007-09-12 03:17 am UTC (link)
*reads*

Oh, for god's sake. This from the person who posts robot porn featuring Scourge and his Sweeps acting like cats in heat with her organic Final-Fantasy-magic-using OC of same name (Sheba, not Koby). Her fics themselves are total GAFF fodder.

I think perhaps she has no room to talk.

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[info]pandabonzai
2007-09-16 08:55 pm UTC (link)
It's like Underworld meets Dawn of the Dead! Therefore it's not unoriginal at all! /sarcasm

God man, Crosby's a nut. I only read Marry Me because the art's adorable -- personally I think Eisu's solo comic No Pink Ponies is cuter and suffers a poor schedule because of Marry Me. :P

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