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J. Crew Guy ([info]j_crew_guy) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-09-06 20:09:00


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Entry tags:fandom: bands, gay, thoughts on yaoi

STAGE GAY WANK
(Or Jesus Christ, it's a herd of teal deers, get in the car!)

[info]phaballa compares the guys from bandom bands (My Chemical Romance, etc.) playing gay onstage to performers wearing blackface.

If, for example, these boys went on stage and played at being black--imagine the outrage then. To me, it's the same thing. It's like performing in black face.

...I think they're basically ignorant little boys who get off on being tabboo on stage, where they can say it's just a performance, and then talk about how much they love their girlfriends off stage.


And I know somewhere in there, someone compared all of this to Rwandan genocide. (Is that like a newer version of Godwin's?)

Bandom strikes back! ficbyzee responds as does kalpurna.

wistful_fever wants to know why we can't all get along.

Bonus wank as [info]lovinspike247 claims that being gay is about more than just sex.

I expect the herd of teal deer wank to only get bigger as more and more people share their thoughts on teh stage gay.

Edit: Thanks to [info]ironymaiden for this link, that has a whole bunch of responses to phaballa's post.

And thanks to the various mice on [info]wank_report for some of the links, too.

[info]puipui has set aside this thread for SERIOUS BUSINESS. So be sure to share all your thoughts on yaoi stage gay there. (Fixed. Thanks [info]rosehiptea.)



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[info]puipui
2007-09-07 04:35 am UTC (link)
You're a brave, brave soul. I've seen at least two people consider posting this and then decide against it for fear of SERIOUS BUSINESS in the comments.

Therefore! Since we all know it's coming and it can't be avoided, I have decided to set this thread aside for SERIOUS BUSINESS. This is the SERIOUS BUSINESS thread, there shall be no other! And then everywhere else can be for the funny and the boobies and so forth, and we don't have to get those threads all messy. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN.

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iwanttobeasleep
2007-09-07 04:37 am UTC (link)
Puipui, you are just made of awesome.

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[info]puipui
2007-09-07 06:32 am UTC (link)
^___^

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MY THOUGHTS ON BLACKFACE:
[info]snowden
2007-09-07 04:48 am UTC (link)
Um...it's bad? I mean, no, let me start over:

[Insert long story about how my cat did blackface once. You are FASCINATED.]

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Re: MY THOUGHTS ON BLACKFACE:
[info]snarkbunny
2007-09-07 03:25 pm UTC (link)
The mention of blackface always makes me think of when I read the "Little House" books when I was a kid, and there was that one chapter where Pa and his friends painted their faces black and were dancing and rattling bones or something, and they were described as being dressed up like "darkies", and I assumed for the longest time that a "darkie" was some sort of 19th-century-Midwest-specific ghoul.

And then much later I heard the term "blackface" explained, and basically went "....OMG. Pa! D:"

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Re: MY THOUGHTS ON BLACKFACE: - [info]kittikattie, 2007-09-09 10:49 am UTC

[info]damnedfallacy
2007-09-07 04:56 am UTC (link)
I JUST GOT DRAGGED KICKING AND SCREAMING INTO KILL HANNAH BANDOM AND THEY'RE REALLY HOT AND HAVE THE BEST HIPBONES EVER.

What? I'm serious. They're hot.

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[info]hickorydickory
2007-09-07 09:45 pm UTC (link)
Indeed.

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[info]scarah2
2007-09-07 05:05 am UTC (link)
We should all go back to listening to Judas Priest because Rob Halford is out like a bad kitty!

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[info]toxictattoo
2007-09-07 05:16 am UTC (link)
He is? Hot fucking damn!

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(no subject) - [info]wrenlet, 2007-09-07 05:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]toxictattoo, 2007-09-07 05:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]scarah2, 2007-09-07 05:52 am UTC
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[info]tez
2007-09-07 08:16 am UTC (link)
I completely endorse this product and/or service! Rob Halford: the ORIGINAL Hard Gay Y/N?

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(no subject) - [info]scarah2, 2007-09-07 08:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2007-09-07 08:24 am UTC
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[info]sashenka
2007-09-07 05:26 am UTC (link)
SRS BSNS is SRS BSNS. That is my opinion.

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[info]spiderflower
2007-09-07 05:34 am UTC (link)
My nephew keeps on pushing his iPod filled with Fallout Boy at me and saying "Come on it's SO DEEP. It's really... it's really deep." and I don't know how to get him to stop because at least when I was doing that I was doing that with Green Day and picking out the chords to Time Of Your Life on my shoebox guitar. He also once asked for his hair to be cut like their hair, and I expected social pariah-hood until I realised the rest of his rugby team were all sporting Wentzes. He looks like Howdy Doody, and now with the hair he looks like Howdy Doody after an accident: please advise

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Reward is 25 silver and your pick of boots or chestpiece

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[info]sashenka
2007-09-07 05:49 am UTC (link)
My Quality Advice: Paper bag with eye holes.

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(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-07 07:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sashenka, 2007-09-07 07:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shakeandbake, 2007-09-08 02:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-08 05:30 am UTC

[info]cmdr_zoom
2007-09-07 06:05 am UTC (link)
This is what adolescence looks like. You're just seeing it from the outside this time.

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(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-07 07:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2007-09-07 08:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rubywisp, 2007-09-08 01:12 am UTC

[info]soupspooks
2007-09-07 06:33 am UTC (link)
How much exp?

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(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-07 07:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crysiana, 2007-09-07 07:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-07 10:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-09-07 11:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-07 12:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-09-07 01:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2007-09-07 03:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-08 05:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2007-09-08 12:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-09-08 06:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2007-09-08 12:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - coreopsis, 2007-09-07 03:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-08 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]honorh, 2007-09-07 07:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]spiderflower, 2007-09-08 05:32 am UTC
My buzzkill... let me show you it!
[info]katarin
2007-09-07 05:47 am UTC (link)
You know, aside from the fact that their music sucks (I admit that I illegally downloaded some Panic! and liked it, it doesn't mean it doesn't suck) , my main issue with bandom is that they all look so childish, dirty and unwashed. It's like they went a year and a half without cutting their hair and then another 8 months without washing their hair.

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Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]sashenka, 2007-09-07 05:53 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]ironymaiden, 2007-09-07 06:05 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]sashenka, 2007-09-07 06:08 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]jezebeth, 2007-09-07 06:10 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]sashenka, 2007-09-07 06:13 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]isa, 2007-09-07 06:32 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2007-09-07 06:50 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]isa, 2007-09-07 06:52 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]blue_penguin, 2007-09-08 04:08 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]isa, 2007-09-08 06:45 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]blue_penguin, 2007-09-08 06:47 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]iamtheenemy, 2007-09-08 08:41 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]jezebeth, 2007-09-07 06:10 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-09-07 01:55 pm UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]sashenka, 2007-09-08 07:43 pm UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-09-08 07:48 pm UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]onaga, 2007-09-07 06:47 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]esorlehcar, 2007-09-07 08:40 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-09-07 01:55 pm UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]esorlehcar, 2007-09-07 05:31 pm UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-09-08 06:58 am UTC
Re: My buzzkill... let me show you it! - [info]isiscolo, 2007-09-08 02:05 am UTC

[info]pyratejenni
2007-09-07 05:51 am UTC (link)
Is there a short version?

I thought she was pissed at band members who are all kissy-face and shit on stage, but then go "LOL NOT GAY! GAY IS LIKE YUCK!" off-stage. Because that would be kind of shitty, yes.

Is that not what she's pissed about?

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(no subject) - [info]jezebeth, 2007-09-07 05:55 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-07 10:08 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-07 06:25 pm UTC
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[info]negativecosine
2007-09-07 06:09 am UTC (link)
My main thought: Well, what about gay performers who pretend to be straight on stage?

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(no subject) - [info]negativecosine, 2007-09-07 06:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-07 06:35 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-07 06:48 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]aposiopetic, 2007-09-07 07:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sashenka, 2007-09-07 07:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2007-09-07 08:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-07 10:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]honorh, 2007-09-07 08:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-08 04:46 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-08 09:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]littlest_lurker, 2007-09-08 10:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-08 11:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]littlest_lurker, 2007-09-08 11:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-08 11:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]minna, 2007-09-08 02:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - redwarrior, 2007-09-08 08:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]negativecosine, 2007-09-08 08:49 pm UTC
i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored.
[info]rotten_fish
2007-09-07 06:38 am UTC (link)
They're attention whores just like those girls who kiss each other. For fun, yes, and also for attention. And pie. They're harmless, but stupid. Unless they do something offstage to directly oppose or support gay rights, their antics matter shit, just as any performer, from glam rock to Ozzie Osbourne. Yes, it's a gimmick that can have an effect, like Madonna did, but a really significant one? Most likely not, with their music being as shitty as it is. And it's hardly blackface, which was intended to mock and insult blacks. NOW DANCE WITH ME!

Also, their music is such shit that I had to put down my srs bzns icon and put up this one. Wtf, you're so so so much worse than the pop princesses. I would rather listen to Avril. You're all almost 30 or something! You suck! GET A JOB. ('cept MCR - u cool)

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Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]pyratejenni, 2007-09-07 06:48 am UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]vasaris, 2007-09-07 07:23 am UTC
I HATE that song. - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-09-07 12:38 pm UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]palabradot, 2007-09-07 02:04 pm UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]mael, 2007-09-07 06:54 pm UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]chibikaijuu, 2007-09-09 12:18 am UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]stromatolite, 2007-09-09 08:24 am UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]wakuchan, 2007-09-08 10:43 pm UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]daylightsparks, 2007-09-07 06:52 am UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]jocondite, 2007-09-07 07:20 am UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]rotten_fish, 2007-09-07 08:29 pm UTC
Re: i don't feel much better. i feel kind of bored. - [info]jocondite, 2007-09-07 08:32 pm UTC

[info]onaga
2007-09-07 06:50 am UTC (link)
I don't get all the people who were going "OMG then you hate Queer as Folk and Brokeback Mountain!" Because really. There is a bit of a difference between Heath Ledger playing a fictional cowboy, "Ennis Del Mar," and Gerard Way playing a rockstar named "Gerard Way." Particularly considering the legions of teenie fans who don't necessarily get that "Gerard" is not Gerard.

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(no subject) - redwarrior, 2007-09-08 08:17 pm UTC

[info]vzg
2007-09-07 07:45 am UTC (link)
My thoughts on stage gay!

Well, for one, not like blackface. If anything, it's more like racial jokes on MadTV/SNL, which are, at least, not laden with "WHITE POWAH" and are just, "Well, people act like this. Not everyone, but it's funny to insinuate that they do."

For two... if they were homophobes offstage, I'd think it'd suck, sure. I probably wouldn't think it was quite as demeaning as blackface, though.

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(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2007-09-07 07:46 am UTC

[info]notjo
2007-09-07 08:17 am UTC (link)
I seriously think there is a lack of lesbian pr0n in the comments.

WHAT? T.a.T.u. came up, and I am totally unwilling to forget the vid to "All The Things She Said" for Buffy/Faith. Faith/Buffy. Fuffy. Ew, kill me, I just typed that.

SRS LINKS TO BUFFY PR0N PLS!

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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-07 08:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2007-09-07 08:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-07 08:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2007-09-07 08:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-09-07 08:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2007-09-07 05:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2007-09-07 05:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2007-09-07 05:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sidhebastardess, 2007-09-08 08:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2007-09-08 11:52 pm UTC
Since you ask...
[info]jat_sapphire
2007-09-07 09:17 am UTC (link)
1. WASH PLZ. Really, I hate that grungy skanky dirty look. And the discussion here about how they smell like pretentious "I must be talented because I'm too cool to shower" art students (and poets, omg those bohemian eating-off-crusty-plates poets!)? Euuuuuuwwwwww.

2. Penetration =/= sex, for god's sake, and it ought not to crucially surprise anyone that someone who mentions she's a lesbian in every post points this out, to the clueless confusion of the other people in the thread. *sigh*

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[info]kittenmommy
2007-09-07 07:06 pm UTC (link)

GIP!

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[info]minna
2007-09-08 02:32 pm UTC (link)
I have yet to have anyone convince me that them getting touchy feely and makeouty on stage was in any way something they expected to help them, from a marketing perspective, when they started out. Quite the opposite, in fact. They talk about starting out on a homophobic scene, and creating the band partially in response to that homophobia, and yet they're somehow doing it for the marketing? What?

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