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Dan Fogelberg's ([info]llama_treats) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-09-26 12:09:00
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Entry tags:fandom: doctor who

Rose vs. Martha Deathmatch, Part 248961962
So, [info]butterfly posts an essay on her journal, with the completely and utterly NOT WANKBAITING title "Doctor Who: Did we need Martha?"

Needless to say, hilarity ensues.

Some "highlights":

All shall be compared to Rose and despair!

Marsha Marsha Marsha! Rose Rose Rose!

You just don't get it. No, you just don't get it.

Did you read my post? No, did you read my post?


...

Imma go watch all the Pertwee episodes now, 'kay?

ETA: CRANKY ANONYMOUSE TROLLING THE WANK ALERT! Oh, mousie.
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[info]braisinhussy
2007-09-26 07:18 pm UTC (link)
Yay Pertwee!

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[info]shinga
2007-09-26 07:29 pm UTC (link)
I just don't get all the Martha hate. I haven't seen nearly as much Doctor Who as I'd like (oh DVDs, why you so expensive...) but I've seen both Rose and Martha and liked them both for different reasons. WHY THE HATE, PEOPLE.

I'm not much into shipping, but I almost want to ship Rose and Martha just to piss people off. I don't care if it wouldn't work as far as canon goes, I'd make it work.

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[info]gynocrat
2007-09-26 07:40 pm UTC (link)
Qualitatively. Wow, brings back spelling-B memories.

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[info]brennalarose
2007-09-26 07:46 pm UTC (link)
YAY! Doctor Wank for my birthday!

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[info]froda_baggins
2007-09-26 07:48 pm UTC (link)
It's like the Energizer Bunny. It just keeps going, and going, and going...

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[info]mrbimble
2007-09-26 08:05 pm UTC (link)
I'm partial to the Pity the Poor Rose Shippers!!!They're so abused!!! thread myself.

New Who fen. *sigh* Yes, I'm an old old OLD time Who fan. I adore Rose. I ship Rose/Ten. And I still cannot wrap my mind around the concept that a 900 yr old Time Lord can have only One True Love.

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[info]drakyndra
2007-09-26 08:13 pm UTC (link)
I was wondering how long until this showed up here. It was a day later than I was guessing.

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[info]lcsbanana
2007-09-26 08:26 pm UTC (link)
this thread: STILL MY VERY FAVORITE. And not just for the bit where butterfly accidentally goes all joan redfern, either.

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[info]sandyclaws68
2007-09-26 08:30 pm UTC (link)
I think Martha rocks. Do I deserve to live?

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dracothelizard
2007-09-26 08:38 pm UTC (link)
But was there wank in Wank_Report, as always when there's Rose or Martha-related Doctor Who wank?

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[info]nostalgia
2007-09-26 08:43 pm UTC (link)
I found nothing at all wank-baiting about any of it.










LOL GOT YA!

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[info]microclimate
2007-09-26 09:01 pm UTC (link)
All this Srs Bidness about Doctor Who's shippy inclinations does not make the show look very appealing. I'd want to watch for all the freaky ass aliens and different planets and fuzzy time logic, not because it's the intergalactic/interdimensional Days of Our Lives. *yawn*

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[info]freewheel
2007-09-26 09:06 pm UTC (link)
Personally I liked Martha more than Rose, because I thought she had a more believable character and there were no sudden changes like S1 to S2 Rose. But wanking over it is stupid.

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[info]narcissam
2007-09-26 09:07 pm UTC (link)
"You just don't get it. No, you just don't get it." starts as wank then turns into an adorably earnest and polite discussion. Would that every wanky exchange was like that!

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[info]queencallipygos
2007-09-26 09:09 pm UTC (link)
I've only ever seen the newer (Eccleston-and-beyond) incarnations of the show, so I've got limited perspective; but something told me the Doctor/Rose relationship was a bit of a deviation from the form, and it always had a faint whiff of the Mary Sue to me.

On the other hand, though, I also don't see cause for people to get all het up about the character of Rose or Martha -- yeah, Rose may have been a little too emphasized as being speshul, but this is a show about a guy who rides a flying telephone booth through space; so I'm not expecting Shakespearean-level dramaturgy and characterization here anyway, and so why get all bent out of shape?

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[info]calapine
2007-09-26 09:26 pm UTC (link)
Imma go watch all the Pertwee episodes now, 'kay?

Yay, Time Monster!

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[info]black_spot
2007-09-26 09:30 pm UTC (link)
The Doctor was once married. He has shagged someone who wasn’t Rose or Martha. I don’t care about either side as long as he keeps saving Earth. Grandpa Who is serious biz.

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[info]oar
2007-09-26 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Okay, not to get all SRS BSNS on everyone, but wtf is up with all this people saying that Martha "doesn't like or understand the Doctor as a person"?

I mean, were they watching a different show than I was? Wasn't Martha the one who sat down and forced the Doctor to actually talk about his issues? Wasn't Martha the one who seems to have a good insight on his flaws? Wasn't Martha the one to spend an entire goddamn year spreading the word about his awesometastic-ness?

And yet somehow all of this means Martha is the one just using the Doctor for emotional gratification and lols in time and space?

Not to denigrate Rose, because I liked her, I really, really did, but girlfriend had problems. You don't have to "hate" her to acknowledge that, or to acknowledge that her relationship with the Doctor had problems too.

If you really have to break it up into a dichotomy of one thinking, "Slighty crazy alien bastard with a shady past, but is nonetheless made of awesome and I love him anyway", and the other one thinking, "Magical alien boyfriend lols!!1!", which companion do you really think goes with which thought?

It's like fuckin Bizarro world. Jesus Christ. *mops after self*

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[info]puipui
2007-09-26 10:12 pm UTC (link)
EEEEEEEEEEEEE! DOCTOR WHO WANK FOR MY BIRTHDAY! *loves you OMG*

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[info]ladypeyton
2007-09-26 10:42 pm UTC (link)
If he was so goldanged in love with Rose why did he fall so hard for that Lady in the Fireplace?

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[info]tehrin
2007-09-26 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Can't I just like both of them? Together? Oh, Who-fandom, getting in the way of RoseXMartha and RosexDoctorxMartha.

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[info]julesnoctambule
2007-09-26 11:16 pm UTC (link)
We're having a Four-a-thon this afternoon.
(*grumbles about Those Kids Today*)

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GIP - [info]trinity_destler, 2007-09-27 07:07 am UTC
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[info]honorh
2007-09-26 11:41 pm UTC (link)
*looks at latest wankery*

*sighs*

*goes back to experimenting with writing Nine/Rose smut*

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[info]velvet_mace
2007-09-26 11:48 pm UTC (link)
I wish that the Doctor would just shut up about Rose already. She was a great companion, but they wrote her out. I actually find myself agreeing with [info]butterfly in a lot of things, not because I'm a Rose-shipper, but just because I can't figure why the show gave Martha the shaft so badly. Her moment in the sun was almost completely overshadowed by Saint Rose.

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[info]chrissytng
2007-09-27 12:01 am UTC (link)
Who cares about Rose or Martha? The Doctor clearly was in love with Jamie...and Jo, and SJS, and...well I could go on, but yeah.

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