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dhole ([info]dhole) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-10-17 00:00:00


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Entry tags:actors, crazy people, far too complicated, self-publishing, sockpuppets, the mice defend her, what the shit is this?

A Flight of Bontlings
Another late 90s wank. Sorry about that; it's been harder than I anticipated getting good primary sources online for some of the epically hilarious earlier stuff. But this one's got a certain amount of meat on its bones.

Anyhow, someone said something about a "new VB", and while I realize that they were probably referring to Victoria Bitter, as that would make sense in context and all, it reminded me of another VB. A VB whose name is seldom spoken, for reasons concealed herein.

There's this actress, Vanna Bonta. I'm sure you all remember her for her unforgettable performances as "Additional Voices", "Computer Voices", "Lead Actress in Play" and so on. There's actually a role people here might recognize: "Zed's Wife", in the . . . erm, remarkable 1982 film, The Beastmaster. She also appeared as "Student in Lab" in Being From Another Planet, MSTK 4x05.

You'd think that a film career as lively as that would be enough for one woman, but you'd be wrong. Horribly, horribly, wrong. She wrote a book, you see. Called Flight. It was "published" in 1995, and soon after a buzz started to develop on the AOL message boards, and on Usenet. I don't know if the AOL stuff is archived anywhere, but if one looks at the Usenet postings, there's something a bit peculiar about them.

There are all these different people, see, and they're all interested in talking about how totally fantabulously awesome Vanna Bonta and her books are. And very little else. Here, have some examples: AIRAFLIGHT. ANNEMAR201. Book Magic. BorgFreeee. Butch 0009. EduKate101. Greeneater. LitWitt. NOTeeBecca. SAGstarpix. Stanblount. Stenoscoop.

Such single-minded dedication from fans of a self-published book!

Oh, wait, did I say self-published? Because on the thread, some of those very different people said that it was published by a really real publishing house, Median House. And here's Median House's website. Puzzling thing about it, though. For a really real publishing house, they seem to have a rather limited list. Three books in a dozen years, apparently. Well, two books in a dozen years. One of the books on their website, Couples and Money, a Couples' Guide, seems to have been published by Gabriel Publications, a completely different vanity, er, subsidy press. So two books then: Flight, and The Story of A Rich Dog and A Poor Dog by Lydia Ugolini. (Remember that name, by the way.)

Anyhow, as you can see, these are people who are very, very interested in Flight, and in asserting that they're real live people. Because it's not just in retrospect that these things get noticed. There's a certain pattern to these interactions: Here TNH explains it all. And Barnaby paints a grim, dystopian vision of the goings-on here (Avram Grumer chimes in with his own version as well.)

The focus at the time was primarily about SwankIV1. She was a far more developed character than most of the other Bontlings, and there was a certain amount of disagreement on the primary kerfuffle venue, rec.arts.sf.fandom as to whether she was for real or no. She had a buddy, Bunky Satch, so presumably, if you grant the existence of one, you grant the existence of the other.

If you want to see for yourself, have a thread. It's a bit long, and it's not the only thread on this, or similar topics. In fact, here's one from 2003 – It marks the beginning, middle, and end of the internet careers of Hugo Rossi and Race Kevin. They don't really type out Vanna Bonta on rassef anymore, for fear of getting internet presences of that sort finding them and having similar careers.

And that's the thing about Flight. It's fans persist in their singleminded, strikingly similar devotion to Flight and Flight alone. Check out the Amazon.com page. Everyone there seems to love it. Except for one or two people, but their reviews are found to be unhelpful by most of those following it. And one of them gets snarked at in comments. Most of the reviewers of Flight don't seem to have read a lot of books, though a number of them do seem to like music. One of them also has unkind things to say about one of Doyle and Macdonald's books. Could it be that this review by Doyle and/or Macdonald touched a nerve?

And then there's Wikipedia: Vanna Bonta gets pretty extensive and kind treatment. It informs us of such facts as, "Bonta's passionate interests in outer space (she is an advocate of space settlement[6] and philanthropy to utilize resources and intelligence to uplift humanity), mechanics (she rebuilt a car engine), physics, and the human relationship to the cosmos appear as themes in the stories she has been writing since age 6", for instance. "Quantum Fiction", the term she prefers for her genre gets equally kind and complete treatment. And then you get her Grandfather, (or possibly Godfather) Luigi Ugolini. Yep, there's that name again – it appears that the author of A Rich Dog and a Poor Dog is Luigi's daughter. Now, I'm not an expert on Italian literature, but it doesn't seem impossible that he's everything that Wikipedia says he is. All the same, there's a lot more hagiography there than you get for most minor Italian writers. There aren't a lot of editors on any of these, but by golly do they edit the hell out of 'em. And not much else.

So who's doing all this work – writing reviews, editing wikipedia, posting to Usenet, and so on? It obviously can't be Vanna; she's been busy with her Musical Trance Fusion thing. It has a caveman in it.

Obviously, it's got to be her fans. Her tightly focused fans; Flight must just be one of those things that such a transformative experience that it leaves no room for enthusiasm about anything else. Only. . . only if it's really got all those fans, why is the first edition still available new, on Amazon?




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[info]knightrider
2007-10-17 01:34 am UTC (link)
Bonta's passionate interests in outer space (she is an advocate of space settlement[6] and philanthropy to utilize resources and intelligence to uplift humanity), mechanics (she rebuilt a car engine), physics, and the human relationship to the cosmos.

Oh my god it's Mary Sue made flesh!

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(no subject) - flightstothesea, 2007-10-17 01:41 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2007-10-17 08:55 am UTC
Warning: pun - [info]mcity, 2007-10-18 06:27 am UTC
Fft. - [info]embyquinn, 2007-10-20 09:23 pm UTC

[info]kijikun
2007-10-17 02:03 am UTC (link)
Some of those reviews are....yeah. O_o

One of the few negetive reviewer was riped into here:
But teach didn't do her homework. Salim teaches high school but doesn't know this novel isn't science fiction, and she gets all huffy accusing it of NOT being. ? Sorry but...d-uh! I read four interviews and bios that told me it isn't sci fi! It's even in author bios.

Salim also flops trying to describe quantum fiction and fails pretending to paraphrase the author.

IMHO the science in this novel is great for quantum theory buffs but isn't even necessary to the enjoyment.

I've read this book & just saw it in the news, and what Ingrid Salim ---who is a highschool teacher-----calls strange metaphysics is just good old timeless wholesome ideals. Simplistic in some philosophies maybe but a lot of basic human values are. It's a fable.

I shudder to think that Ingrid's talented high school students get lorded over with the same slashing (educational?) "critiques." It's sad but comical in a way.
Whatever. Makes me cheer for Vanna Bonta as I read this cause I'm thinking there are still real writers and poets like her capable of yanking people's chains. Not to mention uplifting & inspiring people.


Nice personal attack there.

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Your buddy Salim - (Anonymous), 2007-10-30 07:28 pm UTC

[info]wal_lace
2007-10-17 02:04 am UTC (link)
... The quotes section of her Wikipedia page. Ye gods, the quotes...

"Life is a canvas of many strokes, where shades from different palettes meet into a picture so concrete that some forget it is their own, and so become framed themselves."

"Where you see valid achievements or virtue being attacked, it's by someone viewing them as a mirror of their own inadequacy instead of an inspiring beacon for excellence."

And, best of all,

"I didn't have a Barbie doll, so I played with eternity."

... This woman is now my idol.

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Icon - [info]oh_envy, 2007-10-17 12:32 pm UTC
"Spank the entropy! Spank it! Spank it!" - [info]rosina_alcona, 2007-10-17 03:46 pm UTC
Re: "Spank the entropy! Spank it! Spank it!" - [info]brennalarose, 2007-10-17 07:39 pm UTC
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[info]hickorydickory
2007-10-17 02:21 am UTC (link)
She's like Chancery Stone and the Countess rolled into one.

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[info]tangentialone
2007-10-17 02:32 am UTC (link)
I love the tags on the Amazon page:
self-published (3)
author writes her own reviews (1)
award-winning authors (1) contemporary fantasy (1)
modern fable (1)
sock-puppet reviews (1) sockpuppets in the comments (1)
speculative fiction (1)

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(no subject) - [info]wtf, 2007-10-17 08:12 pm UTC

[info]anne_elliot
2007-10-17 02:34 am UTC (link)
Well, the Wikipedia page on Luigi Ugolini seems pretty accurate, even if I find it a little strange that the English one is longer and more detailed than the Italian one. Also, the Italian Wikipedia page mentions her, saying that "his niece Vanna Bontà (meaning goodness) inherited his literary talent and writes literature".
It just seems so...random?

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(no subject) - [info]youngcurmudgeon, 2007-10-17 03:02 am UTC
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flightstothesea
2007-10-17 04:12 am UTC (link)
Learned to swim as a child by leaping off an olympic height diving board because she didn't want to make the line behind her climb back down the ladder.

Spoke her first words at four months.

Was baptized on the exact spot as the 14th century poet Dante Alighieri in Florence, Italy.

Is married to a rocket scientist.


I don't know why, but that made me lol most of all.

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[info]demonbean
2007-10-17 04:27 am UTC (link)
mechanics (she rebuilt a car engine)

I had kept a straight face until there, damnit!

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[info]hyaenid
2007-10-17 05:20 am UTC (link)
She is best known as the author of Flight: A Quantum Fiction Novel (1996), the story of an amnesiac girl with no navel

Maybe it's the midterms talking, but that made me cry perfect tears of mirth.

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2007-10-17 05:24 am UTC
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[info]issendai
2007-10-17 05:23 am UTC (link)
Daaaaamn. She has a better Wikipedia page than most real authors.

It's wankers like this who make me reconsider writing. Why should I spend a year (or at least a November) cranking out a book, another couple of years shopping it around to agents and publishers, and a year after that re-editing and proofing it, just to get a measly little wodge of paper with my name on the cover and a couple little reviews? I could have an adoring fan club right now. I wouldn't even need to write the book, since having actual prose available is doing Vanna Bonta serious harm.

If people pushed for writing samples, I could take a page from Lanaia Lee's book (well, David Gemmell's book) and put up a chapter or two of some obscure book I wish I'd written.

In fact, I think y'all will really like it. It's called, uh, Dagger's End, and it's about a swordsman-for-hire named Pritchard and his snarky, slightly mad scholarly boyfriend whose name is, uh, Alan. If you give me twenty minutes, I can quote you some stunning reviews.

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[info]churri
2007-10-17 05:46 am UTC (link)
Was baptized on the exact spot as the 14th century poet Dante Alighieri in Florence, Italy.

Yeah? Well, I stood on the exact spot Marilyn Monroe did when she got her footprints set in cement outside Grauman's Chinese Theatre. Beat THAT.

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-10-17 06:00 am UTC (link)
I'm now waiting for her article to show up on WikiPedia:Articles for Deletion.

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WHOA- is this trolling the wank? - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-10-19 12:53 am UTC
Re: WHOA- is this trolling the wank? - nam_jai, 2007-10-19 01:04 am UTC
Re: WHOA- is this trolling the wank? - [info]vzg, 2007-10-19 04:56 am UTC
Oy - [info]frequentmouse, 2007-10-23 03:21 am UTC
Re: Oy - [info]vzg, 2007-10-23 04:16 am UTC

[info]saraannette
2007-10-17 06:15 am UTC (link)
The 'celebrity gossip archives' linked from her Wikipedia article are pretty special, too. There's a whole page of slavering ass-kissy items about her which she TOTALLY DID NOT SUBMIT HERSELF, K? A few highlights:

Leonardo Da Vinci must be flying out of his grave to see his conceptual genius evolve to taking humans to the moon...in all of three minutes. Vanna Bonta, a Hollywood voice actress, novelist & creator of intrepid glow girl with no navel, Aira Flight, makes musical poetry out of history. Vanna, the thinking person's sex symbol who outdoes J-Lo's hyphenated talent (poet-actor-producer-writer-novelist-musician) also takes liberty at rewriting proverbs.
'Thinking person's sex symbol', LOL.

A local report claims that the Aira Flight navel-less wonder girl creator was seen jumping off the top of a boat house into a lake more than once, then continues to thrill discreet onlookers when she goes all out for grand whopping slam style breakfasts.
IN UR DENNY'S, THRILLIN U JUST BY EATIN BREKFAST! (There's even a photo of her sitting in the booth, with little labels pointing at everything on her plate. Eggs! Bacon! Ham! SYRUP!!)

Vanna Bonta was spotted in Kansas this week. The idealist writer was sans Toto visiting the trendy Westport district known for its hot music and art.
Kansas is so trendy, guise, srsly!

Best one, though:
A lakefront restaurant in Missouri was abuzz this week when a sleek, purple Carrera speed boat roared in across the water, and the person docking was "Flight" creator and actress Vanna Bonta.

"My daughter knew right off," said one patron, proudly. "She said that's Vanna Bonta. It's pronounced VAHna, you know." It seems the kids, and especially girls, are smitten with her. "It's Vanna Bonta. She's all girl but geek creative."

It's pronounced VAHna, you know.

But remember: SHE DIDN'T WRITE THESE HERSELF, RLY.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2007-10-17 06:59 am UTC (link)
The girl on the front of Flight looks like half of Marilyn Monroe. That's all I got, really.

But hey, she must be a real writer -- she uses the special science fiction font on her name!

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[info]sunhawk
2007-10-17 07:14 am UTC (link)
What really gets me, more than the really obvious stuff, is... why does Aira have a dragon?? Is that the next great invention after hovercrafts and meals in pill form??

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OH GOD HER IMDB PAGE
[info]caito
2007-10-17 08:41 am UTC (link)
I know, I know, I just commented, but this is the caption from one of the pics on her IMDB gallery:

"Vanna Bonta, who enjoys driving as fast as her 152 IQ, is seen cheering at Indianapolis, Indiana Grand Prix track, Formula One. September 2002"

I feel stupider after having read this, but I'm damned sure it's not out of inferiority.

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Re: OH GOD HER IMDB PAGE - [info]cork118, 2007-10-17 08:49 am UTC
Re: OH GOD HER IMDB PAGE - [info]urpletastic, 2007-10-17 10:34 am UTC
Re: OH GOD HER IMDB PAGE - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-10-17 04:37 pm UTC
Re: OH GOD HER IMDB PAGE - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-10-17 06:30 pm UTC
Re: OH GOD HER IMDB PAGE - [info]vzg, 2007-10-18 08:18 pm UTC

[info]napalmnacey
2007-10-17 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Come enjoy the midi-music

Hah. I think my icon says it all.

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[info]goblin
2007-10-17 06:50 pm UTC (link)
Can anyone confirm or deny that Vah-na Bonta did, indeed, play "herself" on Ricki Lake in the 90s?

Surely such slavish fans such as yourselves will know!

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[info]fangrrl
2007-10-17 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Dude, she invented the 2suit, a garment designed to facilitate effortless intimacy in the weightless environments such as outer space, or on planets with low gravity.

This woman is my hero.

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(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2007-10-18 10:21 am UTC

[info]quietladybirman
2007-10-18 01:02 am UTC (link)
Am I the only one who facepalmed at the revelation that her navel-free heroine is named 'Aira Flight'? I've seen Harry Potter Sues with less awesomely shiny names than that!

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[info]ballseyboo
2007-10-18 07:51 am UTC (link)
BWHAHAHAHA!

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Whoops! This is what I wanted to say... - [info]ballseyboo, 2007-10-18 07:53 am UTC

[info]globalfruitbat
2007-10-18 04:06 pm UTC (link)
Her Ricki Lake appearance also featured...Elvira.

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[info]hooloovoo_too
2007-10-19 12:36 am UTC (link)
Why are all her IMDB headshots also tagged to Ray Bradbury and Larry Niven?

There's an amusing one of her standing next to Lance Bass, which is tagged "Vanna Bonta, Ray Bradbury". My first thought was "Wow, Ray Bradbury sure looks a lot like Lance Bass. I somehow thought he was older..."

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[info]skewed_tartan
2007-10-19 03:56 am UTC (link)
he story of an amnesiac girl with no navel or character,

Whatever that exactly means-I doubt its a good thing.

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[info]caito
2007-10-19 06:47 am UTC (link)
Oooh, interesting things come up if you Google her name without the vowels.
The novel, Fl*ght, seems to have been self-published, and is the only book I have seen or heard of in which the publisher faked the Library of Congress cataloging-in-publication data, replacing a simple set of material that might be useful to librarians with a badly written blurb.
That should be on her Wikipedia page, srsly.

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