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karaz ([info]karaz) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-10-18 10:22:00


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Entry tags:fanfic, plagiarism, sockpuppets

You're the lying, cyber-stalking sock-puppet! No, YOU ARE!
Mysticdreamer32 calls shenanigans on Stylophile. She claims that Stylophile also writes under the penname C.Roxane, and says she saw the name on an archived fic that is also credited to Stylophile elsewhere.

Stylophile pleads her case to a sympathetic flist. She denies ever using that pen name and thinks this 'C.Roxane' must have plagiarized her HP H/D fic, Tempus Fugit. Alas, Mysticdreamer32 is not satisfied because she says that C.Roxane has been harassing her. She is adamant that Stylophile is this same liar*, cyber-stalkery sock-puppet.

Mysticdreamer32 shows up to battle in comments. Flist asks Mysticdreamer32 to prove it or STFU and Mysticdreamer32 basically says the emails for both pen names are the same. However, she shows no proof of this.

Enter an abashed Glomptackle, who explains that she's the archive mod and it was an honest mistake that listed C.Roxane as the author of Stylophile's fic. She has no reason to believe that they are the same person, as C.Roxane doesn't even write HP fic, and suggests that Mysticdreamer32 stop bothering Stylophile.

That's not good enough for Mysticdreamer32. She continues to assert her accusations anonymously after Stylophile brings down the ban hammer. It's also worth noting that Mysticdreamer32's LJ is a bit on the sparse side, mostly just recs, including - wait for it - a ton of C.Roxane recs! And hang on, what is Mysticdreamer32's first name? Christy! You don't say... (see eta 2)

Now Stylophile is convinced that Mysticdreamer32 is actually the cyber-stalker and asks her to bugger off again.

*I'd be remiss not to mention a little bit about Stylophile's LJ. I like her fic, really I do, but a person has to be a bit, erm, gullible to believe her journal stuffs about her life. The entries are few and far between but they include: Kissing Pete Doherty! WITH TONGUE!! (her emphasis, not mine), Dan Radcliffe's home number, attending the same party as Tom Felton, Family woes with the The London Football Mafia, World travels (where "in the shadow of the Namibian dunes [she] wrote a pirateslash story with jack, Will, rum, sodomy and the lash in abundance"). Maybe I'm just a cynical twat, and it's all TRUFAX. I'll even admit that I do enjoy reading about it. Actually, if it's all true I want her to get a reality show. I'd so watch it.


ETA: BUT WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!? What? You thought I knew? I was hoping one of you brilliant detectives would wade through it all and figure it out.
ETA 2[info]white_serpent has uncovered that C.Roxane has some issues with Christy. So it looks like we can be pretty sure Christy isn't C.Roxane. (Unless she's gone MsScribe on us at which point, I quit. I'm not sorting that out.) Just who was stalking who anyway!?
ETA 3: [info]white_serpent is my hero. Here is the most likely explanation.


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scifantasy
2007-10-18 10:30 pm UTC (link)
MysticDreamer claims that this Roxane keeps at least one username of "elel_rocks." And since Stylophile's given name is "Elle," the only logical conclusion is that John Wilkes Booth killed Kennedy, or something.

Check out the dreamer's profile...see how she says she's a Michael Rosenbaum fangirl? You know, the guy who plays Lex Luthor?

Why would you accuse someone else of being you?

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[info]white_serpent
2007-10-18 11:27 pm UTC (link)
More than that, there's a list of Clex recs!

SVMaria must be involved somewhere.

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[info]tiggielil
2007-10-18 10:51 pm UTC (link)
I do know a few people with lives more or less like that. They just tend to be way too busy, say, climbing Everest for their Duke of Edinburgh, or partying in their purpose-built party-house, or being at their stupidly expensive boarding school, or working their ass off inbetween cocaine-fuelled Tatler-covered parties at Oxbridge to really get involved in online fandom.

But really, in the HP-movie actor age group, you don't have to throw a rock very far to find someone in England who knows someone (who knows someone) who was in the film. My best friend's friend went to school with Dan Radcliffe, the guy who plays Dean Thomas just started at my university, etc.

My first comment ever, and the teal deer run rampant! Glorious day.

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[info]puipui
2007-10-18 11:47 pm UTC (link)
They just tend to be way too busy, say, climbing Everest for their Duke of Edinburgh, or partying in their purpose-built party-house, or being at their stupidly expensive boarding school, or working their ass off inbetween cocaine-fuelled Tatler-covered parties at Oxbridge to really get involved in online fandom.

And now they dead from coke.

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[info]karaz
2007-10-18 11:50 pm UTC (link)
FWIW - I'm not saying it's impossible but it's pretty unlikely. Sod it, I hope it's all true because then I can buy her memoires one day.

However, In a FW post where two people are calling each other crazy and implying that there is a lot of lying going on - I couldn't really ignore it.

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[info]alexia75
2007-10-19 01:09 am UTC (link)
I lived with a guy whose cat was the sibling to Mrs Norris.

At last! Fame!

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[info]napalmnacey
2007-10-19 06:41 am UTC (link)
Dude - Mrs Norris is an adorable cat!!

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(no subject) - [info]xturtle, 2007-10-19 05:12 pm UTC

[info]ingrid
2007-10-18 11:03 pm UTC (link)
I have to say this is one wank I have zero idea of what's going on.

Why is Mysticdreamer so concerned that C.Roxanne might have taken another ID (even assuming that Stylophile isn't C.Roxanne) that wants nothing to do with her? Is Mysticdreamer claiming past stalking by C.Roxanne or was she stalking CR and got mad her victim tried to "escape"?

Because if she's the stalkee, the recs make no sense. Nor does chasing her foe down and confronting her ... be glad she took off, no?

*confused*

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[info]karaz
2007-10-19 12:03 am UTC (link)
I'm under the impression Mysticwhatever claims Stylophile was stalking her under the C.Roxane name. As for the rest, I'm just as confused as you are...

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[info]ashenmote
2007-10-18 11:18 pm UTC (link)
Ah, very well. The sockpuppet plagiarism wank we ordered to get back into fandom's good grace has arrived. *starts collecting evidence and making flip charts*

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[info]shadowkitty
2007-10-18 11:26 pm UTC (link)
Wait. I think we've found the plagiarist. J'accuse!

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[info]ashenmote
2007-10-18 11:35 pm UTC (link)
NO WAI! I has an alibi!

I was playing chess with my dear friend Rupert Grind at that time.

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(no subject) - [info]barankhy, 2007-10-18 11:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2007-10-19 12:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]barankhy, 2007-10-19 12:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2007-10-19 01:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2007-10-19 07:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-10-19 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2007-10-19 12:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2007-10-19 12:37 am UTC
a rose by any other name would be as wanky
[info]goblin
2007-10-18 11:28 pm UTC (link)
Her name is Mysticdreamer32. With a pseudonym like that, I couldn't support her if she singlehandedly cured cancer while saving baby seals. I just...couldn't.

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Re: a rose by any other name would be as wanky
[info]ashenmote
2007-10-18 11:38 pm UTC (link)
I know exactly what you mean.

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Re: a rose by any other name would be as wanky
[info]phosfate
2007-10-19 12:26 am UTC (link)
She might as well call herself Olandosgurrll or Spyderdarkfaerie.

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Re: a rose by any other name would be as wanky
[info]fresco_le_raye
2007-10-19 12:53 am UTC (link)
And she's 34 years old! I thought there was an Unwritten Law that no-one over the age of fourteen and three quarters could have a pseudonym that banal!

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Re: a rose by any other name would be as wanky - [info]smashingstars, 2007-10-20 04:33 am UTC

[info]furiosity
2007-10-18 11:47 pm UTC (link)
Wait, are you implying that Mysticdreamer239842392 = C. Roxane? So she is accusing herself of stalking herself, but because this is clearly crazycakes, she has decided to generously bestow her other personality onto an unwitting (and clearly non-consenting) Stylophile and then... I... um. I got nothin'.

Or is Sparklyunicorn239842038 actually Stylophile? Who is Glomptackle really? Will Lassie be able to save them?

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[info]karaz
2007-10-18 11:56 pm UTC (link)
I didn't mean to imply anything. I haven't got the foggiest idea which one of these two is full of it.

It's very strange that Mysticwhatever claims that someone is stalking her and yet she has rec'd their fics. And that the pen name happens to start with the same initial her own name does... but I don't know what that means.

Also if it really is Stylophile under a pseudonym - how would she have time to stalk with all her real life adventures?

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[info]white_serpent
2007-10-19 12:02 am UTC (link)
I noticed Kyler had commented in Mysticdreamer32's journal, so I thought I'd see if he had any comment on this.

Here you are.

Which leads us to C. Roxane's journal, where she talks about being harassed by Christy who keeps reposting her stories without permission.

Curiouser and curiouser.

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[info]ingrid
2007-10-19 12:10 am UTC (link)
Ahhhh ... I'm seeing the beginning of some fine, top-notch crazy about to make itself known. Probably with a delightfully demented twist at the end.

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[info]karaz
2007-10-19 12:12 am UTC (link)
Wow. That's... I dunno what that is, but I've added an ETA. Thanks.

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(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2007-10-19 12:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2007-10-19 12:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]karaz, 2007-10-19 12:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2007-10-19 01:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]karaz, 2007-10-19 01:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mrbimble, 2007-10-19 07:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_clansmen, 2007-10-19 03:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pepperjackcandy, 2007-10-19 08:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2007-10-19 08:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]karaz, 2007-10-19 04:47 pm UTC

[info]lasha
2007-10-19 04:22 am UTC (link)
This is the same C.Roxanne who wrote Clark/Lex slash and flounced out of Smallville fandom when people posted the plot (spoilers she called them) of some of her epics stories? Her flouncing was a thing of beauty. *g*

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(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2007-10-19 05:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]undomielregina, 2007-10-19 08:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]karaz, 2007-10-19 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lukita, 2007-10-19 07:46 am UTC

[info]ciaan
2007-10-20 07:43 pm UTC (link)
Well, considering how many things Kyler/daylan_rayne is reposting without permission on his LJ and bazillion Xangas... it must run in the family.

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(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2007-10-22 06:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ciaan, 2007-10-24 09:33 pm UTC

[info]octavia
2007-10-19 05:37 am UTC (link)
Kissing Pete Doherty! WITH TONGUE!!

However, I totally believe that.

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[info]napalmnacey
2007-10-19 06:45 am UTC (link)
Uhm. There are probably pub floors that are less diseased than her mouth now.

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(no subject) - [info]saraannette, 2007-10-19 10:12 am UTC

 
   
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