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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-11-01 14:19:00


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Entry tags:dead gay headmaster, entitlement, fandom: harry potter, internet lawyers, think of the children, this is the wank that never ends

I posted the news story in [info]fandom_lounge originally, but it looks like the wank has arrived.

HP Lexicon wants to publish the site as a book.

JK Rowling and her lawyers are not pleased.

People are not pleased that JK Rowling is not pleased ("That fucking bitch.... But that's not good enough for Ms. Anne Rice, Jr. No. It has to be her way or the highway").

Over at Fandom Lounge, Defensive Mouse Is Defensive.

More importantly, Dumbledore is still gay.

More coming as it turns up. Because I'm pretty sure more is coming.

ETA: Ah, here we go. Points of interest, including a few from the FL comments:

[info]lidane: "The Leaky Cauldron article has updated with a timeline from JKR's side and more details about the lawsuit from their perspective."

"The complaint claims Warner Bros. and Rowling's representatives have been 'rebuffed and treated rudely' in their attempts to engage in a dialogue with RDR Books. 'For example, while claiming not to have the ability or time to respond to plaintiffs' multiple "cease and desist" letters because of a family tragedy, defendant instead was hawking foreign publishing rights to the infringing book in Germany,' the lawsuit said." (Pointed out by [info]peachespig.)

JKR was already asked once, and she refused permission. [info]westmoon: "I was told that she was asked. And quite clearly said no. It was talked about at the Prophecy convention in Toronto this summer, and apparently Steve was quite miffed that she refused to give him permission - as were some of the people to whom he related his tale of woe."

The Lexicon incorporates a good deal of text from Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them already? (Note: Permission may have been given for use on the website. ETA: ... Or maybe not.) In that context, note this passage from the Leaky Cauldron article: The suit also quotes a statement made by Steve Vander Ark on his site, that says, "...I don't give permission for people to just copy my work for their own use. Not only is that illegal, since everything in the Lexicon is copyrighted, it's also just plain wrong. Hey, I did all the work,I put in all the time, it's my skill and talent in this area which allowed the Lexicon to come into being. No one else has the right to use my work." The suit says, "this is exactly what Defendant is attempting to do here in connection with Ms. Rowling's work.

HP Lexicon: Anti-Ginny?

"Publisher Roger Rapoport, founder of RDR Books, said he believes the lawsuit is retaliation for a letter sent to Warner about a timeline used on Harry Potter DVDs."

And finally, as quoted in the LC article linked above: There is a substantial likelihood that defendants will continue to infringe unless halted permanently. Uh oh.

ETA 2: Aaaaand we have Godwin's law:

More from [info]peachespig: JKR gives her side on her site (" From what I understand, the proposed book is not criticism or review of Harry Potter's world, which would be entirely legitimate – neither I nor anybody connected with Harry Potter has ever tried to prevent such works being published. It is, we believe, a print version of the website, except now the information that was freely available to everybody is to become a commercial enterprise. It is not reasonable, or legal, for anybody, fan or otherwise, to take an author's hard work, re-organize their characters and plots, and sell them for their own commercial gain. However much an individual claims to love somebody else's work, it does not become theirs to sell") and the Lexicon's publisher achieves Godwin's ("Steve created this Web site as a volunteer project on his own time, and stopping a book of his own creation is not something that happens in America. It's something that could only happen in a police state").

ETA 3: It's for the children, y'all.

ETA 4: The publisher responds. THE CHILDREN, WHY WON'T YOU THINK OF THEM?! "Warner Bros. responded by rushing into court with this ill-tempered and badly thought out legal action. This wastes financial resources that Ms. Rowling could give to one of her favorite charities." Also, since y'all seem to be noting that the Lexicon has not contacted any of its non-Vander Ark contributors about a book: "It is an original book with a vast array of independently written scholarly articles."

ETA 5: From [info]pyratejenni: The best explanation of the legal situation that I've seen so far.




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[info]major_dallas
2007-11-01 10:22 pm UTC (link)
Well as long as Dumbledore is still Fabulous...

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Neville, metroFierce and loving it!!! - [info]major_dallas, 2007-11-01 10:33 pm UTC
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sockpuppet_rat
2007-11-01 10:28 pm UTC (link)
Ah, the Rocks at the End of Those Books have finally arrived! The wankers can't hold it in any longer.

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[info]lidane
2007-11-01 10:28 pm UTC (link)
The Leaky Cauldron article has updated with a timeline from JKR's side and more details about the lawsuit from their perspective.



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[info]ahiru
2007-11-01 10:35 pm UTC (link)
Wow, that publisher is a moron. Why not just say "SUE ME HARDER JKR" and save time?

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[info]fresco_le_raye
2007-11-01 10:44 pm UTC (link)
For some reason I find the slogan "The Leaky Caldron.org - The Most Trusted Name In Potter" amusing. It sounds like a used car salesman. With a pencil moustance and a slightly soiled check jacket.

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[info]peachespig
2007-11-01 10:51 pm UTC (link)
JKR gives her side on her site.

As is now widely known, a complaint has been filed in the name of Warner Bros and myself against the publisher of a proposed Lexicon, written by Steven VanderArk. This decision was reached, on my part, with immense sadness and disappointment, and only because direct appeals for a reasonable solution failed. I never dreamed, in the light of our previous good relations – including giving the Lexicon a Fansite Award - that this situation would ever arise.

From what I understand, the proposed book is not criticism or review of Harry Potter's world, which would be entirely legitimate – neither I nor anybody connected with Harry Potter has ever tried to prevent such works being published. It is, we believe, a print version of the website, except now the information that was freely available to everybody is to become a commercial enterprise.

It is not reasonable, or legal, for anybody, fan or otherwise, to take an author's hard work, re-organize their characters and plots, and sell them for their own commercial gain. However much an individual claims to love somebody else's work, it does not become theirs to sell.


Meanwhile, here, the publisher's view:

"Steve created this Web site as a volunteer project on his own time, and stopping a book of his own creation is not something that happens in America. It's something that could only happen in a police state."

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[info]harrylovesron
2007-11-01 10:51 pm UTC (link)
and apparently Steve was quite miffed that she refused to give him permission - as were some of the people to whom he related his tale of woe."

So clearly, the logical course of action after being told "no, you can't do it" is to go ahead and do it anyway, then whine when your ass gets called on it and refuse to comply with Jo's requests.

Oh HP fandom. Please continue to make yourselves look like dumbasses!

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[info]rhiannonmr
2007-11-01 10:51 pm UTC (link)
I cannot believe he went ahead with this even after she said no to him. What a sense of entitlement here. The Lexicon has been a good resource for the most part, but parts of it are really out of date. Seems like they haven't done any serious updating ya know? Maybe it's because they want to do the book but w/out permission from JKR they're just asking for a lawsuit that they just got. Hell if he asked and she said no, that should be the end of it!

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Let's state the obvious here. - [info]narcissam, 2007-11-02 04:37 am UTC
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[info]rekall
2007-11-01 10:54 pm UTC (link)
I was reading some of the Leaky Cauldron comments last night and some of them are hilarious!

--

Is this going to go away, like the other suit filed? The poor lexicon. It’s like someone busting into your home and taking away a notebook you’ve stored all of your notes in about the series!!!

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Steve is amazing! This is BS! How DARE she just go and sue one of her biggest fans that even SHE has recognized in the past! I’m disgusted with JKR! Steve, go publish that book! You probably know more than she does anyways!

--

My support to Leaky and Lexicon! It is incredible what Jo’s doing since the seventh was released.

--

Shame on you JK Rowling. The Lexicon has done nothing but support your series and help it become the pop culture phenomenon it is today.

I will never spend another penny on anything JKR is involved in.

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[info]petit_ecrivain
2007-11-01 11:21 pm UTC (link)
Is it actually the Lexicon that wants to publish this book? Because from the article, it's hard to tell if someone has just taken the info from the Lexicon, or if it's actually the Lexicon and Steve VanderArk who want to publish it.

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[info]kijikun
2007-11-01 11:25 pm UTC (link)
Do people not get that Harry Potter and it's wonderful world of magic and buttseck mystery would not exist without her. It is not something that is you know out there waiting for someone else to research and report on.

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[info]eilisliana
2007-11-01 11:26 pm UTC (link)
How long do you think it will take until Steven VanderArk takes the Lexicon down because of how "horrible" JKR is being?

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[info]missdaisy
2007-11-01 11:32 pm UTC (link)
But the Lexicon encyclopedia is going to be far more accurate than any encyclopedia Jo could possibly write. She just doesn't want the difference between the Lexicon canon and her crazy OOC fanfic crap to be noticed.

I know she gets the details wrong some of time but that still doesn't mean the option I choose to run with is canon and the other isn't.

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2007-11-01 11:33 pm UTC (link)
Psst. www.hp-lexicon.org, not www.hp_lexicon.org

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[info]limyaael
2007-11-01 11:50 pm UTC (link)
I always wonder why some fans seem to decide that just because they've put time and effort and sometimes money into a fannish endeavor, that should translate to profit. Because, God knows, having fun is not enough, and a hobby is worthless unless you can make money from it.

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[info]shadowkitty
2007-11-02 12:15 am UTC (link)
Is that the guy who left his wife for someone at a con who's half his age, or am I thinking of the wrong person?

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[info]lizbee
2007-11-02 12:23 am UTC (link)
Okay, kids, looks like we need a lesson in Remedial Fandom.

Lesson 1: You don't try to make a profit.

Lesson 2: No, not even you.

Lesson 3: No, not even if your mum, your priest and your kitten said it's okay.

FOR GOD'S SAKE, PEOPLE, ARE WE ALL GETTING STUPIDER?

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dracothelizard
2007-11-02 12:27 am UTC (link)
Am I the only one slightly annoyed at the way his name is spelled as Steve Vander Ark? Technically it should be Steve Van Der Ark, or perhaps Steve Vanderark. Now it just looks like the guy's got a demented middle name when he really just has a Dutch last name!

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[info]vzg
2007-11-02 12:33 am UTC (link)
Oh, holy crap. How do people even think something like this would ever be a good idea? I mean, I liked the Lexicon, sure — because it meant I didn't have to flip through pages to find stuff from the books. And also, for a while I was too cheap to buy Quidditch Through the Ages and Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. Other than random speculation (most of which, far as I remember, ended up being wrong), the only thing that wasn't directly stated in the books that I found on that site was that Aberfoth was Albus's brother. And now that's in the books, too.

I just... why? There's not even as much original content there as there might be in a fanfic! And why would I want to buy something I could find so easily online, anyway? It's right there, and it's not like I go on vacation and then suddenly go, "OH SHIT! I can't remember what wizard or witch was on that one Chocolate Frog card! Too bad I don't have internet access so I can zip to the Lexicon to find out!"

[/my thoughts on fancyclopedias]

And I just love the entitlement with the fans. "We're your FANS. You should let us do what we want, regardless of legal precedent and existing laws! WE MADE YOU."

I wonder if Steve can counter sue for her using his work to fact check her books so that she can profit. Oh my.

WHAT?! But Jo said the Lexicon was a great site and her natural home. She even gave it her fansite award. It’s not fair. GUYS WAIT UP. It's not FAIR. It's not FAAAIR. She gave them an award; isn't that like given them carte blanche to do what they want with her work?

And people seem to be mixing up Halloween and April Fools'.

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[info]strange_autumn
2007-11-02 12:42 am UTC (link)
Why are some fans supporting Vander Ark in this matter? I can't wrap my brain around that. He is so obviously wrong. :(

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[info]daylightsparks
2007-11-02 12:45 am UTC (link)
I'm starting to think that fans will fap about ANYTHING JKR says at this point. She could come up with a cure for cancer or a plan for world peace and people would still be shrieking "OMG UR DOIN IT WRONG!!!"

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[info]atom_bunny
2007-11-02 12:48 am UTC (link)
Wow - flashback to Lori Jareo (sp?) - only on a much grander scale.

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[info]sol
2007-11-02 12:53 am UTC (link)
I totally love the people shrieking that Steve has all the right to do this, and JKR needs to be bitchslapped for STOMPING ON THEIR RIGHTS LIKE A DICTATOR RAWR. All of her information can be used by the masses legally and THEY ARE TOTALLY MORE CORRECT THAN JKR HERSELF THAT BITCH TRUFAX

All I'm waiting is for someone to come in and make the claim that if they can do that, then there would be no problems taking someone else's fic or pictures and making a profit from them because of their assertations. Then the wank would be glorius.

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[info]smadronia
2007-11-02 01:06 am UTC (link)
As my boyfriend said, did Steve fall off the short bus and get run over by the back tires? Whatever did he smoke that made him think that the HP lexicon in print would be okay? that's like publishing Fan fiction without making the most basic name replacements.

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[info]magnolia_mama
2007-11-02 01:13 am UTC (link)
The statement on RDR's site about the suit is full of laughs. My favorite part: We are not sure why J.K. Rowling and Warner Bros. have decided to sue an independent small-town publisher Translation: WAAAAH! Quit picking on us, you big bullies!

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