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kayla ([info]kayla) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-11-23 10:53:00
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Smell that sweet morning wank!
So over on the community [info]lkh_lashouts a flogging of LKH's blog entry is posted. Things start out happily until it is mentioned that LKH's fans compare her to Tolkien.

winterfox has extreme issues with Tolkien!

Why should elves be monogamous?

No one here is original anymore!

Is there a law about using PMS as an insult?

And this just made me laugh.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2007-11-23 06:34 pm UTC (link)
Coincidentally, I just bought The Return of the King - The Complete Recordings CD set a few days ago. The Tolkien wank gods must have realized this was a perfect opportunity for another go. :D

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[info]manasseh
2007-11-23 07:05 pm UTC (link)
Considering how winterfox goes on about Tom Bombadil, you'd think he came and sang off-key at her personally.

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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2007-11-23 07:44 pm UTC
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[info]nevadafighter
2007-11-23 07:15 pm UTC (link)
Oh sweet Christ almighty.

Maybe he didn't go into detail about dwarf marriage customs because he had a finite life and could only write so much before he died!

But then there would be wank about why he chose to develop the languages instead of spending time writing about all the elves' sex lives.

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(no subject) - [info]fools_game, 2007-11-24 02:17 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kantayra, 2007-11-27 02:47 am UTC
Lesson One in World Building 101
[info]narcissam
2007-11-23 07:36 pm UTC (link)
Unless your name is God, you can't build a realistic world in every detail.

Lesson Two is "Good Worldbuilding is About Maintaining an Illusion for the Length of the Story, Dummies"

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Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]kosaginolegion, 2007-11-23 10:26 pm UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2007-11-23 10:29 pm UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]kosaginolegion, 2007-11-23 11:48 pm UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]lizbee, 2007-11-25 06:00 am UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]pantyless_angel, 2007-11-24 03:28 am UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-11-24 09:12 am UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]marumae, 2007-11-30 09:15 pm UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-12-01 08:31 am UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]serai, 2007-11-25 12:20 am UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]maureenlycaon, 2007-11-29 12:31 am UTC
Re: Lesson One in World Building 101 - [info]kosaginolegion, 2007-11-29 01:33 am UTC

[info]doomsday
2007-11-23 07:39 pm UTC (link)
What culture in history has existed without religion of some kind? Wait, why do the elves have an attitude toward marriage that's more or less Catholic?

So the fact that there's no religion is bad...but the presence of a religious attitude is also bad? I'm lost.

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[info]ilpalazzo
2007-11-23 07:53 pm UTC (link)
Awww, they're gonna make [Bad username: lkh_lashouts_lashouts] for the jaded old fuckers who have seen it all and are sick to death of it but just can't let go.

I imagine them as though in a pasture, craggy and woolly and retaining the barest scraps of their youthful grandeur. From time to time one will raise its head and bleat dourly about how everything's gone to hell and they'll all look up with mouthfuls of grass and nod knowingly.

It's so beautiful, in my mind.

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[info]thegiantsquid
2007-11-23 08:24 pm UTC (link)
Boy, someone's bitter that Harry Potter didn't turn out the way she wanted!

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[info]frau_eva
2007-11-23 09:14 pm UTC (link)
Being an anthropology student and a fantasy fan is more of curse than I would wish on most people. That said, still not seeing enough reason for that amount of vitriol.

Hey, anyone got any good high fantasy recs? I've found a lot of good stuff with urban fantasy, Gaiman and Mieville-type stuff, but I miss high fantasy like hell. And all anyone ever recommends is The Wheel of Time and OMG DO NOT WANT. D: Because otherwise I'll just be sitting on my hands trying to keep myself from getting tl;dr about Tolkien, and mango and pepper vodka can only hold me off for so long. Distraction, anyone?

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[info]brennalarose
2007-11-23 09:26 pm UTC (link)
Um, if I'm guilty of one of those sayings on the anti-feminist bingo, does that make me an evil person or just a human with an opinion?

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[info]luckdragonfujur
2007-11-23 09:28 pm UTC (link)
Forget the wank! I want this shirt!

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2007-11-23 10:29 pm UTC

[info]narcissam
2007-11-23 10:01 pm UTC (link)
This is a bit OT, but reading more of that LKH comm, I discover that Merry Gentry is pregnant with twins, each twin having three fathers each.

I'm not sure why I should be surprised, but I am.

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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-11-23 10:11 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tekenduis, 2007-11-23 11:10 pm UTC
LOL! - [info]duraniedrama, 2007-11-24 03:35 pm UTC
Re: LOL! - [info]artimusdin, 2007-11-26 04:58 am UTC
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[info]lollercoaster
2007-11-23 10:14 pm UTC (link)
I couldn't help but notice that winterfox is a member of just about every snark/rant type community on LJ... and one yaoi community. I don't know why this amuses me so much.

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[info]worstangel
2007-11-23 10:40 pm UTC (link)
Damn, I wish she'd link this fanfic. I want to read it.

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[info]ladysphinx
2007-11-24 03:02 am UTC (link)
THIS IS WHY MY SNARK COMMUNITIES CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

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[info]mistressrenet
2007-11-24 03:30 am UTC (link)
May I just say one thing: CHRISTIE DID NOT HATE POIROT. READ HER FUCKING AUTOBIOGRAPHY YOU FUCKERS.

...I'll just clean up after myself. Sorry.

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[info]darkeyes
2007-11-24 07:32 am UTC (link)
Ah yes, I saw this wank in the making. I just knew when she started up with her thoughts on yaoieverything, it was gonna be a long wanky ride.

Oh winterfox your twattery never gets old...and by old I mean interesting.

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(no subject) - [info]dez_chan, 2007-11-24 10:10 am UTC
Well the server is robust - [info]kayla, 2007-11-24 04:53 pm UTC

[info]solesakuma
2007-11-24 10:09 am UTC (link)
I don't know who to strike first. Hamilton for dissing Agatha Goddamn Christie or winterfox for being winterfox AND daring to criticize Tolkien.
Now if someone says Borges is too hard to understand, I'll die. Seriously.
Tolkien/Borges OTP.

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(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2007-11-25 01:15 am UTC
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[info]littleshebear
2007-11-24 02:18 pm UTC (link)
Does anyone still have that "J.R.R. Tolkien is laughing in his grave" icon I made? I think we need it again.

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(no subject) - [info]kayla, 2007-11-24 05:00 pm UTC

[info]rachel_pi
2007-11-24 07:51 pm UTC (link)
What culture in history has existed without religion of some kind? Wait, why do the elves have an attitude toward marriage that's more or less Catholic?

The elves need religion! No, wait, not that religion!

And how dare Tolkien include any of his own personality or world-view in his books!

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(no subject) - [info]frau_eva, 2007-11-24 09:31 pm UTC

[info]ballseyboo
2007-11-24 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Why should elves be monogamous?

I keep thinking that everyone on that thread asking this question just wants to be part of an elven mating circle orgy. Probably too much Valdemar during my impressionable youth...

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[info]serai
2007-11-25 12:27 am UTC (link)
You think Tom Bombadil irritates this guy a little? For someone whose main complaint about Tolkien is that he fills his stories with "boring shit", he sure gets awfully TEDIOUS on the subject of ol' Tom.

Myself, I like Tom. He reminds me of the folks who came out of the MA woods and saved those stupid Pilgrims' asses when they nearly starved to death. (Not that the Indians wore big yellow boots, mind you.)

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[info]isntitironic
2007-11-25 01:52 am UTC (link)
Actually, I'm pretty sure that it's in The Silmarillion somewhere that elves are monogamous in imitation of the Valar.

Speaking of which... why do elves need religion? They've met their gods. Galadriel has spoken personally with Manwe and Varda. The elves know, because they were told, that serving their gods means simply going out and living and thereby fulfilling the vision in the music of the Ainur. They don't need to worship the Valar, and the Valar wouldn't like it if they did.

Um... wow, I think I just reached a personal high point of geekery.

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(no subject) - [info]serai, 2007-11-25 07:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]isntitironic, 2007-11-25 10:33 am UTC

[info]ballseyboo
2007-11-25 09:59 pm UTC (link)
Why should elves be monogamous?

I get the feeling that everyone posing the question just wants to be part of an elven mating circle sandwich. *is resisting the temptation to break out in the supposed mating habits of Tayledras* Too much Valdemar in my impressionable youth.

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Whoops, almost duplicate comment... - [info]ballseyboo, 2007-11-25 10:02 pm UTC

[info]moripubes
2007-11-26 06:25 am UTC (link)
No, Tolkien put a very narrow focus on his world. Try finding information he's left behind about anything outside of the elves and a select group of men--plus maybe the Valar--and you quickly realize what a flat, lifeless place Middle-earth really is. What are the marriage customs of dwarves? Who the fuck knows. What happened to the Blue Wizards? No clue either. What are the easterlings really like? Dunno, Tolkien was too busy labeling them all as barbaric heathens.

Then there's his hideously bloated prose. I'd take a comparison to Tolkien as an insult.

Tolkien hype irritates me, especially since most people aren't even familiar with his material (or, for that matter, his sources) enough to tell how exactly his world-building is so amazing.

As someone who's extremely familiar with Tolkien's works and sources, I can definitely say that this lady is a douchebag.

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(no subject) - [info]shatfat, 2007-12-03 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]moripubes, 2007-12-03 06:30 am UTC

[info]kantayra
2007-11-27 02:55 am UTC (link)
As insane as winterfox is (no, seriously: What? o.O), s/he/it doesn't hold a candle to LKH. By LKH's own logic:

People who don't wuv their characters and write for money = Doyle & Christie

People who wuv their characters and are true artistes = LKH

Soooo, can someone rec me some more books written by non-artistic authors who hate their characters and are only in it for the money? This seems to be the way to go.

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