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actors, fandom: supernatural, icons, let's all get along

RESPECT! (spn wank)
Most of these links came from the many diligent wank_report mousies; I have merely compiled (and maybe editorialized a little).

dodger_winslow makes some icons:

As many of y'all know, me and many of my closest LJ friends have been utterly appalled and deeply outraged at what we see as a growing trend of disrespect for Jensen and Jared as people in the very fandom that professes to adore them for being the genuinely good and generous guys they are.

Some people make responses along the lines of "Chill the fuck out, I can make fun of celebrities all I want and guess what? It won't actually hurt them in any way."

Like affectingly:

Hey, don't appreciate my loving mockery of Jensen Ackles? That's fine. I don't expect everyone to participate in that or to think that's a fun way to express one's love of something. I'm a sarcastic bitch and I'll be the first to admit that. But you don't get to label me or the people who DO think it's funny as bad fans without looking like a complete asshole yourself.

alazysod posts some response icons with text such as "Because this is polite stalking" and "Because nobody likes a Fatty!Jensen"
Among others, ladymirth takes offense and calls alazysod "a jerk with an entitlement complex who just can't WAIT to mock people for having ethics." Comments were deleted in that thread EDIT: alazysod to the rescue! part one and two.

Supposedly (although dodger-winslow has since denied it) this whole thing started as a result of jubjubfest, a community/ficathon "dedicated in loving support of Jensen Ackles and his tendency to be a little soft around the edges." As far as I can tell, this community makes people angry for a couple of reasons: 1. Jensen Ackles is SO NOT FAT OMG. 2. It is a bad idea to fetishize overweight!!! 3. If Jensen found out people were fantasizing about him being chubby, he would be devastated. Or something. It is unclear whether or not anyone thinks that Jensen feels particularly respected by the fact that people write stories about him taking it up the ass from his costar, so long as they do not portray him as fat while doing so.

So anyway, then came the defriendings!
apieceofcake explains why she defriended jelloh0530:

So yes I defriended her ,and her being too much of a Drama Queen for me is the reason I gave. Whilst it may not have been very nice, I am gonna stick by it. It's something I even call one of my girls..because she is..LOL!

smidgy06 responds to being defriended

But seriously, I believe he's gay and I'm not going to make any apologies for this because then it'd appear that I was saying that being gay was wrong and that statement would be stupid and ridiculous.

But wait! Apparently it was not Fat!Jensen that started it all, but "a single, egregious act of inexcusable (from my perspective, at least) disrespect to ... Jared." (Lots of tl;dr in the post and the comments) d-w will not say what this act was, because she does not feel like "opening [herself] up to wank."

winterlive also has some stuff to say about this situation:

"there are fen who don't respect jared and jensen's basic humanity, and that is awful in every concievable way."

"and the end result is a certain select few people standing in the town square, wearing clown costumes and fervently jerking off onto a copy of the season 2 DVDs (aka: the "cool" kids). those left standing around in horrified silence are trying so hard to be polite and fit in that they won't even say, hey, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING for fear that, if they speak up, they shall be drummed out of fandomtown forevers."

"and i kind of think, in my deep and secret places, that that sort of thing is gross and retarded and best enjoyed by howler monkeys."

That last one was in response to this icon, which was created (as a joke, in case you hadn't guessed) in response to earlier SPN wanks regarding J. Ackles' flaws as an actor and human being, and has since been used "out of context" throughout this wank.

Ok, that's all I got. Anything I missed?

EDIT: In addition to the response icons mocking the original icons, there was also cran's post of icons pointing out the hypocrisy of requesting respect for the actors, when many of said respect-requesters are filled with hate-fueled glee when one of the female actors does something dumb.

EDIT again: traveller also has some stuff to say about the dangers of Fat!Jensen. And how mocking celebrities is like rape.

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the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1

alazysod
2007-12-10 07:23 pm UTC (link)

The deleted comments are from

denisitap. I think I have all of them, but if I missed some, let me know.

From

clex_monkie89's comment:

OMG, I am a Jared!Girl but you're a bitch. You can write whatever you want, hon. But this is starting to become kind of cruel. It would be ok if it was just you, but A LOT of fans are writing shit about Jensen's weight, etc, and not precisely on fanfictions (That we know they don't read), but on boards and forums, that I am sure the actors scroll through once in a while, and it has to be little bit demoralizing to read this kind of thing. It is not fair -_-

She adds: You can say whatever you want on fanfictions, but if you state it like it is a fact on boards and forums, that's not cool. I found about the rumor in the IMDB board with 'the small package' one.

unperfectwolf's says it's not fact, and don't touch IMDB, ever:

Yeah, in fiction hon, that's ok. You can write whatever you want if it is a fanfiction, but you're mocking and making feel bad the girls who made the icons against bashing the actors in real life

Jensen has a small package: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/board/thread/90732149

Womanizer: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/board/thread/91547221

Thin/Fat (started with too thin, and ended with too fat): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/board/thread/90181588

Jared's board is better NOW, but some fans were really cruel before. And that, they do read.

unperfectwolf responds, then:

I love the icons. I have nothing against them, they are funny. I have something against the stupid people (like you) who write stupid stuff (like you're doing) on the comments. You can write whatever you want, I am not saying you can't (duh), but hurt to read so much stupidity.

There is a reply from

unperfectwolf, then:

.. it might help to insult us if you could formulate them correctly.

Uh? I am just insulting YOU. And english is not my mother language, so I can write as bad as I want. At least my problem is grammar, yours is content, ah, and excess of stupidity.

you seem to be contradicting yourself

I thought I was being clear (even for you).

Funny icons = Cool
Mock/Being rude with other fans like you and your friends are doing here: http://alazysod.livejournal.com/256189.html?thread=2141117#t2141117 = Not cool
Write fanfictions = Cool
Write bad stuff on boards, and forums = Not Cool
Being rude with the girls who tryed to make something about it: Not Cool.

Was that clear enough?, if it wasn't, sorry, my english is bad!

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	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 sluggirl 2007-12-10 07:27 pm UTC (link)
	You are awesome! updates post (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 meyerlemon 2007-12-10 07:27 pm UTC (link)
	I am stuck on JENSEN HAS A SMALL PACKAGE. FAT/GAY/DOUCHEY/SMALL PACKAGE. ????? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 aewgliriel 2007-12-10 07:33 pm UTC (link)
	Looks like a biiiiig package to me from all those bulge picspams. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 sluggirl 2007-12-10 07:35 pm UTC (link)
	True love means making the object of your affection as hideously unappealing as possible! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 yosei 2007-12-10 07:46 pm UTC (link)
	:D It's just proof of how Jared is his true love! If he can love (which he obviously does) despite all that, they are meant2B. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 ingrid 2007-12-10 08:09 pm UTC (link)
	Sounds like a set-up for RPS MPREG without the scientific impossibility part -- fat, hormonal and almost-minus the penis? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 esorlehcar 2007-12-10 11:27 pm UTC (link)
	Also, for your consideration: ladymirth's Why I pity FW post. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 meyerlemon 2007-12-11 12:49 am UTC (link)
	She's laughing! She's laughing so incredibly hard! But she also feels SORRY for f_w!!!! But mostly it's just terribly amusing to her! Ugh, no, it's not, and you're not. Unless by "laughing" you mean "trembling with rage". Apparently. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 alazysod 2007-12-11 01:35 am UTC (link)
	Ooh, thanks for the link. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 rustybitch 2007-12-11 05:00 pm UTC (link)
	I especially enjoy how she cluelessly remarks that "fandom_wank has no idea about SUPERNATURAL anyway..." Does she not realize that f_w is made up of fen from every conceivable fandom including Supernatural? Also, you didn't end up here because you pissed us off. You got your mention because you're mockable and we like to point and laugh at Teh Stupid. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 sluggirl 2007-12-11 05:08 pm UTC (link)
	I LOVE it when they think we have some sort of emotional investment in the wank. That's right, kids. We're laughing because we're SO ANGRY. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: the poor man's screencaps of the deleted comments, part 1 rustybitch 2007-12-11 08:09 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, I'm angry all right. I have no candy and thus no wrappers to stick on my ass. That's the kind of thing that makes a girl grumpy that is. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	repost saralina25 2007-12-11 09:12 pm UTC (link)
	Is this the new version of "watch me not care"? (Reply to this)(Parent)

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