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mary ([info]massromantic) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-12-11 16:33:00


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Current mood:amused
Entry tags:fanart, fandom: house

"A Sad Discovery:" House art-wank
So, okay, I feel vaguely anxious about making a post linking to now-deleted posts, but hopefully it's funny enough to make up for it? If not, you know, mock at will.

A group of House/Wilson-y writers and artists come to the conclusion that a fairly popular fanartist, [info]elicia8, has been using Photoshop or photo references in her drawings. Naturally, the way they go about bringing this up is creating a separate Evidence Journal (and, I am not making this up, titling it "The No-Spin Zone") and posting at length about how sad they are to have to bring this up. (The evidence posts were later locked, but can be found c & p'ed here, here, here, and here. A sample: "Several weeks ago, it was brought to my attention, by brynnamorgan, that she had discovered a problem--a serious problem--with this popular artwork. As I had always had an unsettled feeling about these pieces--something always felt a bit too perfect--I began to assist this artist in her investigation. What we found has dismayed all of us."

They then post a super-serious announcement post to house_wilson. The most common reaction is a resounding "Who cares?" (Comment screencaps are here, here, and here. The second set of comments capped is probably the funniest.)

The OP then deletes their announcement post, friends-lock or delete the evidence post, and retreat with a new flounce post: "All right then. We'll never bring it up again." (No screencaps available, afaik.) People respond to this with a lot of "...wtf is the point of this, then?," so this post is also deleted.

This mostly just leaves the fanartist's response post (quote: "ETA: My mommy helped with the hard parts.") and a whole lot of posts mocking the whole thing. And the evidence journal's proof gallery.

No comment from any of the OP contributors so far, though, so there's still potential fun to be had.




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[info]negativecosine
2007-12-11 07:06 pm UTC (link)
Oh, man, this has been long in coming. Can't believe I missed the actual omgsomething'shappening part. (Damn.)

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[info]alya1989262
2007-12-11 07:07 pm UTC (link)
Hee! That artist's response is winnage! XD

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2007-12-12 10:42 pm UTC

[info]phosfate
2007-12-11 07:18 pm UTC (link)
OH MY GOD, NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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[info]mindset
2007-12-11 07:26 pm UTC (link)
Aww man. They think they've discovered the next Crystal, but instead it's just someone who uses... OMGNO! photoreference and/or a lightbox!

Now, if Elicia were saying she was BFF with Hugh Laurie and he'd given her the photos himself personally, and if she had a gallery herself hanging out with Robert Sean Leonard, then they might have had something.

Sad, really.


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[info]demonbean
2007-12-11 07:26 pm UTC (link)
"She used photo references, that h0r!"
"Don't worry, elicia8, I trust in you, it is completely untrue!"

Leaving out the part where it is completely okay to use photo references ...

(Although it really does look like one of those was just run through a filter.)

Also, this icon? http://userpic.livejournal.com/60076513/8281182 Mesmerizing and scary!

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[info]puipui
2007-12-11 07:34 pm UTC (link)
But what happened to your fw_debate post? Did I just imagine that?

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[info]issendai
2007-12-11 07:43 pm UTC (link)
Seeing as how I missed Crystalwank, could somebody please explain to me why it's artistically satisfying to become Internet famous by Photoshopping or tracing canon photos? The charm, it eludes me.

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[info]llama_treats
2007-12-11 07:48 pm UTC (link)
If the artist shows up here to quote the JF TOS at us, we might have something!

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[info]tiki
2007-12-11 07:49 pm UTC (link)
Wait, people couldn't tell those drawings were based on photos?

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sockpuppet_rat
2007-12-11 08:11 pm UTC (link)
XD It's like they thought they found another Crystalwank and set up their very own Bad_Penny and were all set to become internet famous AND popular and then DENIED. It is a thing of true beauty.

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(no subject) - [info]dorothy1901, 2007-12-11 08:24 pm UTC
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"What the hell is WRONG with you people? Were you all raised by hyenas?" - [info]dorothy1901, 2007-12-11 11:13 pm UTC
Re: "What the hell is WRONG with you people? Were you all raised by hyenas?" - [info]rustybitch, 2007-12-11 11:39 pm UTC
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[info]doomsday
2007-12-11 09:00 pm UTC (link)
This may be the schmoopiest H/W picture ever.

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[info]danceswithelvis
2007-12-11 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Good God. Art wank. Stupid art wank. What did the wankers want? DiVinci...oh wait, he used references...nm.

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[info]rustybitch
2007-12-11 09:06 pm UTC (link)
PIXELDONG!!!

That's all.

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[info]frequentmouse
2007-12-11 09:11 pm UTC (link)
Durova? Is that you?

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[info]kijikun
2007-12-11 09:24 pm UTC (link)
What is with the caplockness going on in the screencaps. Gah, my eyes.

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[info]stella_polaris
2007-12-11 09:30 pm UTC (link)
Since when was it wrong to use photo reference?

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[info]ingrid
2007-12-11 10:02 pm UTC (link)
None of us really wanted to believe what we were seeing, but eventually we had little choice. It grieved us, and it still does.

We knew not of tragedy until this moment. This terrible moment.

I wonder what brought this on. Too many "beeyotchlecia8 ain't all that" AIM chats, perhaps?

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[info]dodge_and_weave
2007-12-11 10:13 pm UTC (link)
I never understood the whole "using refs is bad" attitude. Unless you have all of human anatomy memorized in an all forms and poses, plus every detail of the subject's face (which is probably really famous if it's a movie or tv character), what the heck is wrong with looking at the ref?

Now if you really want to impress me, draw the thing freehand while looking at a movie still or something. I kind of think using a lightbox to trace the photo isn't really stretching the art abilities.

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[info]fictionbya
2007-12-11 11:05 pm UTC (link)
"Evidence journal"? With a no wank icon? Seriously?

XD

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(Anonymous)
2007-12-11 11:46 pm UTC (link)
Aaah, I love it when people have some wanky overblown problem with some silly little thing like referance pics and assumes the rest of the fandom does as well. And then dramatically "out" people who do it and expect gasping shock and shunning and apologies from the artist.

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(Anonymous)
2007-12-11 11:48 pm UTC (link)
It's totally unfair to use photo references for art based on TV shows. It's oppressing those groups of fans who think Daniel Jackson is blond/House has grey eyes/Dean Winchester is fat. Please, think of the fans and their alternative interpretations of visual data! Their views are valid too!

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[info]priestesspadfoo
2007-12-12 12:35 am UTC (link)
I can't stop laughing at that one icon in the first set of screencaps that says HAHA U GOTS SAND IN UR HOOHOO. :D

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[info]immoralilly
2007-12-12 01:51 am UTC (link)
Is the whole of House fandom legally obliged to TALK IN CAPS ALL THE TIME to prevent House from spearing a kitten with his stick or something?

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(Anonymous)
2007-12-12 02:00 am UTC (link)
This is my favorite wank I've ever been in.

Mind you, I've only been in two wanks...but damn. This was the most awesomest...

~animagiblender on LJ

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(Anonymous)
2007-12-12 02:35 am UTC (link)
When you draw aren't you technically using a form of reference anyway? Even if it's just a picture in your head of what it should look like... that is technically a reference. Tbh, I don't really see the difference between that or using a picture or photos. You've still got the same information.

(I find this amusing as, if that's true, it would mean the 'proper' state to draw art would be something like, oh, I don't know... while closing your eyes and meditating and hoping the image is more than a bunch of scribbles.)

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