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Dash O'Pepper ([info]pfeffermuse) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-12-25 07:00:00


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Entry tags:christmas, frosty the snowman, grinch, pc, peanuts, political correctness

You're Interpreting Christmas from the Wrong Perspective
Lift that cup of grog, and join me in a toast to the ghosts of Christmas past, present and politically correct.

On this day of days, devoted to avarice, gluttony and seeing just how far plastic can stretch before bouncing, MSNBC.com brings the wank. It's a week old, but like your Aunt Martha's fruit cake can be quite tasty when dipped in copious amounts of rum and brandy.

Mary Beth Ellis writes a commentary on the social issues of Christmas season television specials.



"With his corncob pipe and his button nose and two eyes made out of coal . . . "

Frosty the Snowman is no friend to children. He smokes, for one thing, and he's a lumbering fashion catastrophe. He forces me to type the following sentence: His orange scarf clashes with the purple flower in his hat. When you're 8, that's a bold ensemble. At 30? You want to sign him up for "Queer Eye For the (Presumably) Straight Snowman."

"You know Dasher and Dancer, and . . . "

But let us understand the origin of Donner’s destructive behavior. Given the fact that Santa completely emasculated him about 10 minutes prior by ripping him in front of everybody for having produced a mutant, he needed to reclaim his very manhood. Therefore, he lashes out at the missus in a self-defensive patriarchal manner. You see, folks, all negative behavior stems from pain.

"The Grinch carved the roast beast!"

[W]e're bypassing the main victim here — that large, upsetting slab of roast beast. It looks like an enormous chicken, organs and all. But where the drumsticks should be there are these upsetting, pointy little hooves. . . . Was there some sort of bloody, knife-intensive, ritual hunt and sacrifice? Or did they just go off into the woods with beer, tiny bottles of beast urine and “Git-R-Done” hats? "Fah who for-aze" indeed.

Is it satire? Is it tongue in cheek? Is it simply the jaded spirit of too many lines, too many carols and too many sitings of Ralphie "You'll shoot your eye out" Parker while channel surfing during the 24-hour A Christmas Story marathon?

In 79 posts, spread across seven pages, it's clear that Mary Beth's readers are not amused:

I want the 10 minutes of my life back that I wasted reading this story. Does MSNBC actually read any of these stories before they post them? Clearly Mary Ellis has some serious issues she needs to address. What's wrong sweetheart, did you not get the doll you wanted for X-mas 20 years ago so you have some underlying hatred toward the holidays. . . . Get a grip.

I think this Mary Ellis needs to take a Valium and get a life.

You are over-complicating the message of these specials! Children should watch them, if only as a small historical glimpse of the social sensibilites of the time. And we should too, for the same reason.

And so, with only ten comments, basically telling our intrepid author to take another shot of tryptophan and get on with her holidays, Mary Beth takes a page from such noble literary icons as Anne Rice and Lee Goldberg: when the criticism is negative, start posting your rebuttals:

Message #12: I fear that some of you are misunderstanding the piece. The point of it was to purpously [sic] view these special through the eyes of an adult-- which, of course, ruins them. By showing the ridiculous reactions that we can have if we don't suspend our disbelief, I was arguing that we should view the specials as their creators intended. So you see, I really do agree that these specials still are "magical," and we ought to see to it that they remain so. If you have any other anxieties about this article, feel free to email me or visit BlondeChampagne.com. I'm sorry if you didn't like it.

And like Snoopy in his battle with the Bloody Red Baron, it doesn't take long for the critics to zoom in for the kill:

Your writing could use a big brush up, if everyone commenting here got you wrong - it isn't their fault, it's yours, for not getting your message across clearly. That's what journalists used to do, before having a blog and spouting off at the mouth became enough to make one a "writer". . . . And proofread, just to see if you're making any sense at all. . . . As satire, the article failed, full stop.

Yet, before all the stockings were hung by the chimney with care, Mary Beth is back:

Message #21: This piece went through about three different editors, all of whom seemed to think that the point got across, or it would never have made it online. I've received several very nice emails from people who liked the article, and again, if anybody has any questions about it or my qualifications (which, I assure you, extend beyond blogging), you may email me directly. I've been an online commentator for several years, and it always amazes me that many kind words come from personal email addresses, whereas any nasty comments tend to pop up in anonymous situations such as this. Should any of you wish to have a civil discussion with me via email, I welcome it.

Mary Beth's made her list, and checked it twice:

Message #23 (and #25): It wasn't a backpedal at all. I haven't disavowed the article. I was merely explaining that it was a satire . . . I'm sorry if some of you here did not like the piece, but it truly was satire.

But here we are back in olden days, happy golden days of yore:

Your look back at these television specials from an adult perspective fell flat because it's neither funny nor insightful.

Christmas eve will find her where the wank love light gleams:

Message #37: One more comment here: I certainly don't expect every person on the planet to agree with or love each word I've written. If you don't understand that this piece was satirical, that's one thing; if you understood that it was satire and still didn't like it, that's another. It is the nature of writing. Everyone is welcome to his or her own opinion. I have just as many emails from people who thanked me for the piece and liked it.

What troubles me is the insulting nature of some of these responses. I have always beleived [sic] that a vital part of writing is the discussion with readers, so I came here to reiterate that this is indeed a satire. In my responses, I've calmy [sic] explained myself and even apologized to those of you who didn't like a piece which didn't cost you a dime to read. However, some of you, never having met me, have decided that I am a nasty, miserable person, even after (presumably) reading my explanation. If I truly am such a brooding termagant, do you really think I would have responded in this manner?


Faithless Faithful friends who are dear to us, gather near to us once more:

Actually, I think you recognize it now for the poor writing it is, Mary Beth. I sense back peddling. Please spare us your lecture on satire. This wasn't satire. Satire tends to be funny. Your Christmas gift to us was wasting our time.

I read the article again, and it just sounds to me like you're trying to blame some innocent cartoons for problems in society. The one thing I did find funny is that you took time to call out one of your competitors (CBS), for airing these shows, without taking a look at your own networks choice of programming.

Sounds like Mary Beth was trying to be the "Art Buchwald" or "Erma Bombeck" writing satire about children's Christmas shows . She bombs miserably.

Your post did not seem "satire". Yes, there was satire IN it, but even the link from MSNBC to this message board was labeled "What problems do you see with Holiday Specials", and the TITLE of this message board is "Social Issues in Christmas Specials". There is a LOT of indication you wanted to make an issue of social problems in these films. Certainly you used "Satire", but I think you had some serious points you needed to make and sorry if you didn't like the reaction. Now you see people are annoyed with your article. So you now pawn it off as "it was ALL satire". I am not biting.

I'm not offended, because the 'point' that the author is making is just so transparent and sophomoric. . . . The entire article just smacked of being utterly pretentious garbage being passed off as smug editorial. That's the problem with the internet... It gives a voice to people who think that they alone have a unique idea simply because they have a podium. The irony perhaps, is that Mary Beth as an author was unable to see past the very thing that she claims to be satirizing.

. . . and they heard her exclaim 'ere she wrote out of site, happy festivus to all and to all a good knight.




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[info]dez_chan
2007-12-25 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Okay, how can she spell termagant correctly but not calmly? O_o

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[info]ms_treesap
2007-12-25 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Tl;dr.

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[info]luthe
2007-12-25 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Lady, snark works better when it contains actual snark. Go learn some lessons from Lewis Carroll, mmmkay?

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[info]ara
2007-12-25 07:10 pm UTC (link)
Wow, someone got a lump of coal wedged up her ass in her stocking. Where the hell does something so humorless pass off as satire?

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[info]wankaholic
2007-12-25 07:13 pm UTC (link)
. . . yeah, satire works better if it's actually satirical, not just "I am bitter and jaded and therefore I am going to dissect these."

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[info]dragonfangirl
2007-12-25 07:17 pm UTC (link)
...wel, it might not actually have been funny, but it was pretty obviously satire.

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[info]fevered_ego
2007-12-25 07:42 pm UTC (link)
Ellis ought to have checked out that article the mental illnesses of Winnie The Pooh and friends. Its writer did basically the same thing she's aiming for with her own piece, but it came out a lot funnier:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1068391.stm

...People still thought it was serious and sent hate-mail. Hee.

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rowleyorama
2007-12-25 07:49 pm UTC (link)
I'm still waiting for the Christmas wank that will happen when everyone realizes 'Baby, It's Cold Outside' is a total date rape song.

"Say, what's in this drink?" GHB, that's what.

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[info]seca
2007-12-25 08:00 pm UTC (link)
This just makes me wish Jan. 7th was here already so I can get my news wank from The Daily Show and The Colbert Report again.

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[info]morgothik
2007-12-25 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Santa was always a complete douchbag in RTRNR. I knew it at eight and It's still true. What took Ms. MSNBC Essayist so long to figure it out

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[info]jat_sapphire
2007-12-25 10:30 pm UTC (link)
In case anyone cares, she explains it all again to get love and kisses from the multitudes scores dozens about ten of her BFFs and argument from about two dissenters: "The 'Yes, I Still Do Not Know How Satire Works' Post" ...oh, oops, that's not what she called it.

In other words, bah, humbug.

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You'll wank your sight out!
[info]mcity
2007-12-25 11:01 pm UTC (link)
This post has revealed something to me; In all my years, I have never finished watching A Christmas Story.

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Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]kosaginolegion, 2007-12-26 12:44 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]mcity, 2007-12-26 01:06 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]kosaginolegion, 2007-12-26 01:13 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - pastri_archy, 2007-12-26 12:49 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]mcity, 2007-12-26 01:03 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - pastri_archy, 2007-12-26 05:48 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]mcity, 2007-12-26 05:53 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]robinterrae, 2007-12-26 01:14 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]blue_penguin, 2007-12-26 01:57 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]mookie, 2007-12-28 03:00 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]louifee, 2007-12-29 06:11 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]brennalarose, 2007-12-26 02:26 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-12-26 02:37 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]jujubee, 2007-12-26 03:03 am UTC
I just finished watching it. - [info]mcity, 2007-12-26 03:08 am UTC
Re: I just finished watching it. - [info]amxjm, 2007-12-26 08:49 am UTC
Re: I just finished watching it. - [info]kosaginolegion, 2007-12-26 08:59 pm UTC
Re: I just finished watching it. - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-12-27 05:12 pm UTC
Re: I just finished watching it. - [info]kosaginolegion, 2007-12-27 05:17 pm UTC
Re: I just finished watching it. - [info]queencallipygos, 2007-12-27 07:55 pm UTC
Re: I just finished watching it. - [info]kosaginolegion, 2007-12-27 08:01 pm UTC
Re: I just finished watching it. - [info]harrylovesron, 2007-12-26 10:20 pm UTC
Re: I just finished watching it. - [info]mcity, 2007-12-26 11:06 pm UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]jaseroque, 2007-12-26 03:41 pm UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]sharps, 2007-12-27 02:49 am UTC
Re: You'll wank your sight out! - [info]wrongly_amused, 2007-12-29 06:31 am UTC

[info]sandyclaws68
2007-12-25 11:32 pm UTC (link)
Isn't genuine, honest-to-goodness satire supposed to be. . . well, satirical? And funny? That's one big teal deer of FAIL.

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[info]antimony
2007-12-26 12:47 am UTC (link)
"I've received several very nice emails from people who liked the article ... it always amazes me that many kind words come from personal email addresses, whereas any nasty comments tend to pop up in anonymous situations such as this."

The lurkers support me in email!

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(no subject) - [info]entrenous88, 2007-12-26 01:29 am UTC

[info]ojamajo_limepie
2007-12-26 01:04 am UTC (link)
Somebody's having themselves a wanky little Christmas.

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[info]entrenous88
2007-12-26 01:38 am UTC (link)
And wheeee, she's screened comments over at her Defense of Craptacular Satire at her blog (some of them even supported her! Or so she says!):

Thanks to all for a good discussion. There were a handful comments which I did not post, both against the article *and* in defense of it, because they violated the no-flaming commenting policy of this site. (In case you missed it, which I understand can happen, it's spelled out at the top of the comment form.) Although I appreciate the sentiment of those of you who wish to defend me, I really don't want any insults flying here in the Tasting Room for any reason. It's just not that kind of place.

Awww, she thought her foot-stampy "you guyses don't get my s-m-r-t-ness!" responses made for a good discussion! Except not, because she's locked all further comments to that post:

As I'm sure we all need to get on with our lives, I'm locking this thread.

And then of course sends everyone off with some words of wisdom:

Scat, now, and make Christmas the verb it is meant to be.

LOL WHAT?

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[info]cygnia
2007-12-26 01:55 am UTC (link)
I've got "12 Tiny Christmas Tales" saved on the TiVo this year...I'm all set!

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[info]acrasie
2007-12-26 02:25 am UTC (link)
Wow, she was definitely reaching with some of those points. And it's not like you actually have to reach at all with those stories. Heck, in Rudolph they kept going "You can't go out there Mrs. Dasher/Clarice, you're a woman!" and "They hurried back home for the women folk's sake." when we all know it was because Hermey needed to get his hair set and fast. and Burl Ives was a truly awful narrator who kept saying "Well" and "anyways" mid-point.

She needs to take another class in being funny.

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(no subject) - [info]fallohidepride, 2007-12-26 09:17 am UTC

[info]drworm
2007-12-26 04:51 am UTC (link)
Well, I'm just glad I'm not the only one who worried about the Roast Beast.

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(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2007-12-26 10:54 pm UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2007-12-26 05:31 am UTC (link)
The Onion did it better.

But then, the Onion always does it better.

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(no subject) - [info]forevagreeneart, 2007-12-26 01:55 pm UTC
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[info]syncopation
2007-12-26 06:05 am UTC (link)
HaI Mary Beth,

I read it.
And I wasn't laughing. I wished it were at least funny and not satirical, but it wasn't funny.

No fan,
me

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[info]blackjackrocket
2007-12-26 09:56 am UTC (link)
...I want to see someone skewer Nightmare Before Christmas. But not this woman, someone *funny*.

And so I turn to you, fellow Wankians!

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[info]castellated
2007-12-26 04:09 pm UTC (link)
Although, yes, it was painfully unfunny, so I could see why some not-so-bright people didn't get that it was meant as a joke, I was caught by the guy who snidely wrote "You wasted our time." Well, no, dude. She was doing her job. You wasted your time all on your own. Let's keep the responsibility where it actually belongs.

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redwarrior
2007-12-26 08:15 pm UTC (link)
The article was funny- for the wrong reasons. I laughed because it sounded like half the (extremely left-wing nutjob) professors I've ever had. And I was taking her seriously, too.

Go learn about satire from Jonathan Swift.

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(no subject) - [info]ladylance, 2007-12-28 07:34 am UTC

[info]eso_si_que
2007-12-27 03:12 am UTC (link)
My first thought: wait? The Real World woman? Isn't she kinda...dead? Unsent wankers! Yuna!

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