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	faultypremise 2003-07-30 04:13 pm UTC (link)
	AUGH! AUGH AUGH AUGH! I had to reply to that one. I just had to. Since when is /researching subject matter/ a bad thing? I don't farking CARE if it's fanfic, learn what you're writing about! AUGH! (Reply to this)

virago
2003-07-30 04:47 pm UTC (link)

Bah... I see it more as the boring old "If you have writing skill, why don't you write original fic?" line again. I think divagypsy's post pretty much sums it up.

It's amazing, though, how all these people with the Why Don't You line think they've got some sort of revelation. Like people who have been writing fic for years are suddenly going to gasp "Oh my GOD! I never even thought of that! I've been wasting my life having all this fun! I must run off and write a bestseller immediately!"

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	darthhellokitty 2003-07-30 07:58 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I saw it as "why not write original" too; I'm not sure where people are getting the "research bad" vibe. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	virago 2003-07-30 09:20 pm UTC (link)
	I think the idea might be that the "go write original" line is just a cover for jealousy, the "real" reason. I, on the other hand, don't put it past people to be so clueless and unoriginal as to sincerely say this, without ulterior motives. ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	phosfate 2003-07-30 10:35 pm UTC (link)
	Why can't it be both? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ailei 2003-07-30 04:48 pm UTC (link)
	My translation of that entry: I am too fucking lazy or incompetent to do even a modicum of research to make my stories believable or palatable. All of you who do? Please stop so I don't have to kickstart my teeny, plebey little brain. KTHXBYE. Why do I have visions of this chick having Jack Sparrow say things like "Y0, d00d!" (Reply to this)(Thread)

	darthtall 2003-08-01 07:49 am UTC (link)
	Jesus fuck. ICON. dead (Reply to this)(Parent)

esorlehcar
2003-07-30 05:42 pm UTC (link)

And while we're examining pirate wank, what the hell is it with all the "challenges" on pirategasm? I've seen several posts that say things along the lines of "I like this type of story, and my challenge is for you to write it for me."

A few examples:

I just wanted to give out a little challenge for those of you with free time and such. ^^ I would be most giddily interested in reading a fic in which Jack and Will have gone slashy, Elizabeth finds out, and basically hooks up with Norrington.

and

I'm just hoping someone can come up with something that makes me feel involved...

I prefer long, drawn out stories that can keep me occupied for quite some time (details may seem boring to most, but I enjoy them!), but stories that are short and to the point can be good as well! Take as long as you want if you decide to help me out. There's no hurry whatsoever! :) (or, to rephrase, I've created this great Mary Sue, and you should all use her in a story for my amusement!)

What's even odder is that people actually appear to be considering complying...

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	elke_tanzer 2003-07-30 06:35 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I've been wondering about those posts, too. Very weird behavior. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	parlance 2003-07-30 06:44 pm UTC (link)
	That kind of thing is big in popfic - slash and gen, actually. Annoys the hell out of me. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	fairestcat 2003-07-30 07:41 pm UTC (link)
	yeah, I thought all the challenges were kinda odd too, but not having really read any other lj fic communities on a regular basis, I wasn't sure if it was unique to this particular community or not. (Reply to this)(Parent)

munchkinott
2003-07-31 12:55 am UTC (link)

There's a high level of probability that everything I say'll be wanky. Aww fuckit! The urge to post a challenge along the lines of 'Whatever you think of, write it your bloody SELVES!' is, frankly, OVERWHELMING.

*beats head on desktop*

All this and 'Good writers who dare to research should get the hell out of my fandom! WAAAAAH!' wankery that magically vanishes (replaced by chapter and verse, grovelling apologises).

I love my fandom. *waves Jolly Roger* :-D

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	dawnswalker 2003-07-30 05:44 pm UTC (link)
	Pirates... are a fandom in themselves now? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kimera 2003-07-30 06:01 pm UTC (link)
	Well, I dunno about just Pirates, but the Pirates of the Caribbean movie is, yeah. As if a movie that stars Orlando Bloom is not going to have it's hordes of raving fangirls. (although I'm here for the Johnny... cuz you know that's soooo much better ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)