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KrazyCat ([info]krazycat) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-01-22 12:56:00
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Same old story..
Janice Turner at The Times: Xbox is crack for kids

Commenters: GDIAF!

Comments include:You're like those crackpot Victorian busybodies who insisted that these newfangled "novels" were rotting children's brains, sitting hunched over indoors all day when they could be out climbing trees and gamboling gaily over fields and streams. Or doing the productive labour that befits their class.

Janice, perhaps you and a Florida Lawyer by the name of Jack Thompson should go start a game haters club.


Quite enjoyable.

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[info]dhole
2008-01-22 03:32 pm UTC (link)
I rather liked this one:
Kids need to go back to playing board games with the family. Reading and writing letters, painting and drawing. Anything that is not sitting infront of a screen. Parents need to be more involved with their activities, the washing comes last.
At last, we've learned the formula: Parcheesi + filth = Good Parenting.

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[info]gmth
2008-01-22 05:10 pm UTC (link)
What about parents who play video games with their kids? Think that's being involved enough? I still do the washing last, if that matters...

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(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2008-01-22 06:14 pm UTC
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[info]napalmnacey
2008-01-22 03:54 pm UTC (link)
Oh come on - how can a woman hate anything with vibrating parts?

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[info]llama_treats
2008-01-22 04:28 pm UTC (link)
What Janice Turner really meant:

Why won't they give me my own TV show? :(

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[info]notjo
2008-01-22 04:52 pm UTC (link)
Wait, people actually argued against novels?

I love history. It's so odd.

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[info]xero_sky
2008-01-22 05:36 pm UTC (link)
There were lots of people freaked out about novels, mostly the moral reformer types. A lot of the concern was that women would get unrealistic ideas about life from them, and start wishing for things like adventure, love, and life outside the house.

I don't think the problem was with staying inside to read -- it was with going outside afterwards with new ideas.

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[info]undomielregina
2008-01-23 12:37 am UTC (link)
I think the best way to respond to this is to offer the engraving my professor used to introduce us to this idea here

It's an engraving of a woman masturbating in a garden. If you look at the closeup, you can see that she's dropped a book. People actually thought the novel would destroy the moral framework of society and lead their women into sin.

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[info]stromatolite
2008-01-22 05:42 pm UTC (link)
feeds the family dog two-quid unhappy chicken just to hack off Jamie Oliver

Even if I knew what this meant, what does the dog's diet have to do with the state of parenting today?

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[info]fresco_le_raye
2008-01-22 07:30 pm UTC (link)
It's...er... that whole no-TV-owning-Middle-Class-parenting rant she riffs on. It's a British thing ;-)

The two-quid unhappy chicken redux: Jamie Oliver, celeb chef, is currently running a campaign against cheap battery chicken, trying to get everyone to switch to expensive organic free range chicken. The reverse-snobbery angle being peddled by some of the media is that this is more bullying Middle Classism, and the Noble Working Class who aren't as rich as Jamie should be free to eat their two-quid chicken that lived a horrible life.

It's all very complicated. I've been eating organic chicken for years, and while I do have a TV (well, 5 actually), I never watch it them (except for Dr Who). I ceased to play video games when Galaxians overtook Space Invaders (it was too hard for me), but I spend my entire life on the interwebs, on two computer at once since I got my laptop for Chrimbo.

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[info]soupspooks
2008-01-22 07:40 pm UTC (link)
Wow, the article and the comments are both... wow.

Also, I'm bad at most video games AND real life sports. I used to spend all my time huddled in a corner reading. Now my corner has a glowing screen in it. Go fig'.

(Books trap you in your own little world, my butt. That's where fanfiction lives! God, I used to be *awful*, I'd make up stories all the time that were suspiciously Mary Sue ish.)

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[info]fresco_le_raye
2008-01-22 07:48 pm UTC (link)
I particularly enjoyed how "J. Chen, Philadelphia, PA, went to such great lengths to explain what a fine, upstanding, normal citizen he was, and how game-playing hadn't affected him at all, and then ended with

You fail

*snork*

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2008-01-22 08:14 pm UTC (link)
If computer games had had any effect on my generation, we'd be hanging around in darkened rooms, listening to repetative music and munching pills...

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[info]ianthefira
2008-01-22 11:14 pm UTC (link)
BWAHA.

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[info]amxjm
2008-01-23 07:46 am UTC (link)
We have those. They're called ravers.

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(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2008-01-23 11:35 am UTC

[info]black_spot
2008-01-22 09:35 pm UTC (link)
We have and Xbox360, Wii and PS2 (now sadly neglected), still my kids insist on playing football, cricket and various other sports. A couple of them can sometime be found with a nose deep into a book. Two are actually learning the guitar as well as playing GH3. They learn to take turns, share and have their mother laugh at their frustration (I do egg them on at times as well). They even refuse to watch rubbish cartoons – because they are rubbish. The two eldest love Top Gear, Smack Down v Raw (yuk), Eastenders (more yuk), The Apprentice, Dragon’s Den and a bit of sport.

Someone needs a brain transplant using Trauma Center - badly.

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[info]rosehiptea
2008-01-22 11:56 pm UTC (link)
My daughter lives with her dad and I've been trying to get her more into video games, so we can talk about them. Maybe I'm the anti-mom, or something.

I didn't really read the comments, but ...

Even the crappiest cartoon or lamest soap teaches a child about character, plot, drama, humour, life. Playing videogames, children are mentally imprisoned, wired into their evil creators' brains.

Has this woman played a video game since Pong? I've cried over some of those characters. (OK, I shouldn't admit that, but it's true.)

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janegray
2008-01-23 04:02 pm UTC (link)
Has this woman played a video game since Pong?

I was wondering the same thing. She seems completely oblivious to the fact that videogames can have good story and characters.

Also, "mentally imprisoned" my butt. The first thing many fans do after beating a game is writing fics or drawing fanart or fanwanking like there is no tomorrow. And if she thinks that playing a videogame makes kids "wired into their evil creators' brains", clearly she has never heard of Misaimed Fandom.

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[info]judyhazeleyes
2008-01-23 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Sobbed - SOBBED - at one point while watching my roommate play Tales of Symphonia. He had to pause the game and see if I was okay, I was so distraught. I won't explain the scene, because it's near the end of the game and could be spoilery or something, but yeah - you're not alone ;D

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2008-01-24 04:04 am UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2008-01-24 07:10 pm UTC (link)
I'd like her to play Twilight Princess and watch how Nintendo can develop a character that we never hear talking.

(I cried at the end of that! It was so sad.)

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[info]dragonfangirl
2008-01-23 12:18 am UTC (link)
Playing videogames, children are mentally imprisoned, wired into their evil creators' brains.

That sounds like a great plot for a video game.

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(no subject) - [info]spacelogic, 2008-01-23 12:37 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]freezer, 2008-01-23 09:07 pm UTC
Automatic FAIL
[info]jellibean
2008-01-23 12:37 am UTC (link)
I could only get as far as the tagline: "It's an impossible task to police our children's multimedia addiction."

God forbid parents actually raise their children...

Oooh! I did see the part about "Satan's Sudoku" though. Does this somehow imply that Sudoku is a gift sent to us from God himself?

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[info]sonic331va
2008-01-23 02:10 am UTC (link)
What I want to know is, where IS ol' JT during this whole Mass Effect thing that's spreading like wildfire over the internets. Faux News has even gotten in on THAT action...

http://gaygamer.net/2008/01/video_unbiased_fox_news_segmen.html

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(no subject) - [info]pipssister, 2008-01-23 03:43 am UTC

[info]blackjackrocket
2008-01-23 04:07 am UTC (link)
Other reports claim that more than four hours a day leads to obesity, attention deficit disorders, linguistic problems and even back pain.

NEUROLOGY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

Even the crappiest cartoon or lamest soap teaches a child about character, plot, drama, humour, life.

And video games don't? Even the cookie cutter Pokémon games (I love them dearly, but they really are the same thing every time) have more plot than the Smurfs or Roadrunner.

Or game over, kids: get an inner life.

Yes, and video games are a great way to *get* that inner life. I mean heck, I started acting out stories because of video games.

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[info]sparkthatbled
2008-01-23 12:01 pm UTC (link)
I find it funny that this woman can't police what her children watch on TV, or what music they listen to or what they see on the internet, but she all but bans them from videogaming...

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-01-23 01:26 pm UTC

janegray
2008-01-23 04:25 pm UTC (link)
Whereas I use my computer as little more than a typewriter that can order groceries, they have figured out how to record music, edit photos, play chess, make stupid webcam films of themselves pretending to be Ant'n'Dec, download embarrassing (to their parents) rock like Metallica, print jam-jar labels, correspond with a godmother in Australia and do stop-start animation with Plasticine men.

She sees her PC just as a typewriter, and she still has the gall to say that videogames make kids dumb and lead to attention deficit disorders and linguistic problems?

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