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solle ([info]solle) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-02-23 13:29:00


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Entry tags:fandom: achewood, fandom_wank's thoughts on yaoi, stop sharing your thoughts, wanking inside the house, webcomics, your favorite webcomic sucks

"Lie Bot, what is the saddest wank?"
Today's Achewood really isn't all that different from the usual storylines, only not entirely as coherent as some people would like. It's also incredibly sad.

So predictably, people get their panties in a bunch.




There's obligatory whining from "randombeing":
"Oh, awesome, we're probably in for another discomfiting Onstad-is-depressed arc. This gets a 2 from me."

Tl;dr analysis from "pez":
"this is not a bad strip. not at all. in fact, everyone struggling to decipher it only makes it better. the best art is never too literal- so why should onstad have to treat us like children? did cartilage head make perfect sense? or ever get a thorough explanation? no, so what exactly warrants giving this strip a low score?

i actually think this strip has a lot of meaning. my interpretation: onstad is contrasting the dreams of both children and grown men, to see what we wanted then and what we want now. philippe thinks he is old enough to go to disney land. the age of innocence. whereas any other achewood character considers a strip club to be their own disney land. at the same time, both beef and philippe are shown to share the same childlike innocence, though philippe has still yet to be corrupted by age. and i think the question is posed: what dreams came true?"


Consecutive posts from "neonfreon" to give the strip the lowest rating possible:
"i know it's obvious, but horrible strip. nobody can come up with any reason to consider it better than horrible."
"when i gave it a 1, the rating dropped to 3.6 - it's down to 3.5 now. keep it up, boys."


Capslocking from "dovey":
"NEONFREON YOU ARE A VALUED MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY
SOMEONE HAS TO BE THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE
YOU ARE THAT GUY"


Accusations of sockpuppetry from "silver_lake":
"Wow. The account where "neonfreon" is a 41 year old man ALSO wants to whine about the comics! It's like a bunch of dudes crying out for their own dongs. They are SO MAD."

Also, oh noez, Achewood is going mainstream:
"I've said it before, I think at this point Achewood has gained the tard newspaper demographic who steadfastly vote on everything with their newspaper poopsets."

And a rather nice summary of the whole situation:
"Assetbar as retardeder than usual today. Good work."



Smallish for now, but plenty more in the comments, and still ongoing. No recipes yet, sadly.



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[info]alya1989262
2008-02-23 03:22 pm UTC (link)
NEONFREON YOU ARE A VALUED MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY
SOMEONE HAS TO BE THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE
YOU ARE THAT GUY


Hee! pwnd!

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[info]puipui
2008-02-23 08:24 pm UTC (link)
That was my favorite part, too.

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(no subject) - [info]alya1989262, 2008-02-24 12:28 am UTC
here comes a special post
[info]hooverdam
2008-02-23 04:59 pm UTC (link)
I wasn't crazy about the strip, but I'll thank you for posting Achewood wank.

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[info]solar_type_star
2008-02-23 05:04 pm UTC (link)
You know, I read the first panel on that strip with a "Charlie the Unicorn" voice.

Maybe that's the key.

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[info]puipui
2008-02-23 08:27 pm UTC (link)
Candy Mountain, Charlie! Candy Mountain!

(Also, BTW, icon love. So pretty!)

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[info]sharps
2008-02-23 05:26 pm UTC (link)
Every time I see a random Achewood strip, I wonder why anyone likes it. Does it have any internal logic, or even some decent artwork?

At least it produces wank, which is amusing, if unintentional.

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[info]solle
2008-02-23 05:46 pm UTC (link)
It has incredibly good characterization, and a lot more serious drama than most other webcomics. And awesome use of language. But a lot of strips focus on either body humor or pre-established situations, so it's hard to get into the comic just by reading a few strips.

Some examples of awesome (mostly out of context):
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=02242006
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=08102007
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=07012005
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=09102007
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=07092004
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=12042006

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[info]scootermcgaffin
2008-02-23 06:55 pm UTC (link)
You can't really just read 'random' Achewood strips. You kind of have to go through the whole thing until it 'clicks' with you.

Which is why most people are either 100% huge fans, or just don't like it at all.

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[info]vito_excalibur
2008-02-24 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Pretty much I just like it because this is how I feel every time I get home from the gym.

(It's just a really uneven strip. Some strips: genius. Some strips: bleah. I find the best strategy is to get a friend who really likes it and feels the need to link to only the best ones.)

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[info]esclaramonde
2008-02-23 05:58 pm UTC (link)
I have never once understood an Achewood strip.

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[info]hooverdam
2008-02-23 06:10 pm UTC (link)
What's so hard to grasp? It's a comic strip about alcoholic cats. Sometimes it's howlingly funny, sometimes it's sad, sometimes it's just kinda there. They're not always winners, but when it's good, it's absolute genius:
http://achewood.com/index.php?date=07052007

The difference between it and most other webcomics, in a nutshell.

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[info]wolfsamurai
2008-02-23 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Ah, Achewood. I can't stand it. Not just because I don't think the comic is good, but because the evangelical bent of a lot of Achewood fans is obnoxious.

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[info]bienegold
2008-02-23 08:12 pm UTC (link)
Not a big Achewood fan either. Dinosaur Comics for me!

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[info]lynstraine
2008-02-23 08:34 pm UTC (link)
i cherish achewood's face<3

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[info]rowsdower
2008-02-23 09:06 pm UTC (link)
I <3 Achewood. Tremendously. Given that I have had hour-long conversations with fellow fans about it, I'm sure I could be called a hard core fan. That said, if somebody doesn't like/understand it, that's fine. I personally don't like/understand most webcomics that are not Achewood or Perry Bible Fellowship (and sometimes Dinosaur Comics; I've enjoyed what I've seen of it, but not enough to go through the whole backlog) so I figure that might balance out the world a little bit.

I do wish my fellow fans would stop being so wanky and gung-ho about converting people to our cause, though. It takes a... rather specific type of mind to be crazy for Achewood, and it only makes sense that not everybody can enjoy it for what it is. I love weird slang and happen to come from mild-to-moderate Circumstances so a great deal of the strip - humorous and otherwise - resonates with me.

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[info]ayezur
2008-02-23 10:07 pm UTC (link)
No, no, see, you guys, it's brilliant, really!

The whole thing is actually a metaphor for the loneliness and alienation of modern life. Humour is the only outlet allowed in a society as dehumanized as ours, except even that humour is subversive and allowed to express itself only as ironic hipsterisms. The art isn't confusing copypasta, it's symbolic of how interchangeable we all are: lacking any truly distinguishable features, anyone may step into an appointed role at any time provided they say and do the correct things, this being a symptom of the futility and emptiness of bland urbanity. And the dialogue isn't incomprehensible gibberish, it's a valuable experiment in form vs. function and also a powerful critique of the aggressive use of "scene" slang to confuse outsiders and prevent the forming of cross-subcultural bonds.

Really it's quite brilliant.

...look, I just got off doing close readings of two E.A. Robinson poems in twelve hours, what do you people want from me? Blood?

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[info]dragonfangirl
2008-02-23 10:21 pm UTC (link)
I'm sensing the rumblings of wankitywank beginning in this entry between the people who think Achewood is brilliant and the people who... don't.

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tree
2008-02-23 11:11 pm UTC (link)
Achewood reminds me of this one time in Uni where we had the introductory class to the course held by this marvellously bearded professor, and he told us what to expect and what books to get, or at least I suspect he did because the people around me nodded and took notes but I couldn't understand a single thing he was saying through that facial hair, and there was a poignant, painful moment where another student asked him something and he replied and she took more notes and I thought I must have gone mental like those cases described by Dr Oliver Sachs, because what, how, why did I not have the beard filter deciphering codec in my head when everyone else did?

Well OK maybe not wholly like that because there are many people who, like me, don't get Achewood, but the feeling of disorientation and helplessness in the face of people getting something that comes across as totally alien is the same.

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(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2008-02-23 11:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2008-02-24 03:04 am UTC

[info]drworm
2008-02-23 11:34 pm UTC (link)
Basically the thing is that I am intellectually superior to everyone who hates Achewood.

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[info]gusty
2008-02-24 12:05 am UTC (link)
How exactly does one cry out for their own dong? Do dongs often come when called?

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(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2008-02-24 04:50 am UTC
So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well.
[info]tiasian
2008-02-24 01:18 am UTC (link)
... I like Achewood! A little!

If I had to go for an example of a funny strip to get people interested, I'd go with Judas Priest Friday.

... not that it's a good example of what the strips are usually like but hey.

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Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]puipui, 2008-02-24 01:27 am UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]vzg, 2008-02-24 03:01 am UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]cyndra_falin, 2008-02-24 10:47 am UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-02-24 03:12 am UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]sparkysrevenge, 2008-02-24 05:49 am UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - iwanttobeasleep, 2008-02-24 07:49 am UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]sharps, 2008-02-24 07:57 pm UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - tree, 2008-02-24 08:46 pm UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2008-02-25 01:32 am UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]seiberwing, 2008-02-25 01:10 am UTC
Re: So, I'm late to the party. Ah, well. - [info]elektra3, 2008-02-25 04:03 am UTC

[info]rozie
2008-02-24 08:07 am UTC (link)
I can't miss the boobie train- Mythbuster Boobies coming through.

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[info]evanwaters
2008-02-24 10:21 am UTC (link)
As pointless as posting random strips is...

C'mon.

http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/uua7F73kc

RAAAAAAAD!

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(no subject) - [info]ms_treesap, 2008-02-24 04:55 pm UTC
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[info]quietladybirman
2008-02-24 09:39 pm UTC (link)
Achewood: It's Like Marmite, In A Way.

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[info]caito
2008-02-25 07:25 am UTC (link)
... y'all talk a lot.

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-02-25 10:49 am UTC


 
   
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