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Vergil, son of Sparda (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} vergilsparda) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2008-03-11 16:48:00 |
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THE FANDOM DOES NOT CONFORM TO *MY* WISHES WAH, Twincest Edition
In vergil_fangirls, rosiesintherain posts:
I know I'm going to be stomped with flames and insults for asking, but why exactly do people like Dante/Vergil?
It's something I never understood. I understand people appreciating the brotherly (FAMILY) love between them. The fact that they're so different and would definately be willing to kill each other, but they can't bring themselves to completely hate each other. Lady and Arkham had that too. Despite all the horribly things that Arkham had done to both her and others, she was still saddened when she killed him. Same with Dante. Despite what Vergil had done to him and was planning on doing to the world, when he left the human world forever, he was saddened by that too.
I don't find it romantic in the least and I don't understand why people try to make it out to be. I don't think someone can completely hate their family member, and DMC3 decided to play on that. And it's fairly obvious that Dante likes women. He hits on almost all the DMC girls, has naked pictures of women in his office, and totally got a boner the moment he saw Nevan. I don't think he's ever done that around Vergil.
Plus.... they're brothers. That's just sick.
So since there seems to be quite a lot of twincest fans here, I'd like to hear what they have to say. It confuses me when people dislike Dante/Trish because Trish is a clone of his mother, but turn around and say that two brothers fucking is hot.
Just curious.
At first people declare their love and need to have her astral kid puppies for daring to stand against the twincest oppression, especially ofsunsets:
I'm game. More anti-yaoi/twincest in the fandom world sort of needs to happen.
They also scream to whoever will listen that DAMMIT DANTE CAN'T BE ANYTHING BUT STRAIGHT, as
blutengel brilliantly illustrates:And, uh. DANTE IS A HETEROSEXUAL. He does not flirt with women in the manga/novels/games for nothing.
As opposed to all these times he met hot men who were not blood related to him OH WAIT THERE AREN'T ANY.
But wait! rosiesintherain isn't really against yaoi! She's only against it because "What I hate is all the shit that yaoi's mostly made up of: big macho man sex find, puny whimpy girly guy who looks like a flat chested 12 year old girl, porn without plot, and Mpreg. It's annoying."
But wait once more!
annataria, brave knight, comes forth on her white horse to defend twincest!There is, if you watch the videos of the game itself, an EXTREME sexual tension between them, there really is--and even the narrator of the beginning MENTIONS this--their twisted pleasure from fighting--etc.
It's ALMOST canon that there is MUCH more going on with the two.
There are DEEP sadomasochistic traits to their bond, as well. They are grinning in happiness as they face off, and cut each other up.
There IS pleasure in the pain.
They treat each other like split up lovers really, more than simply feuding brothers, and yet the love is still there--i.e., Vergil coming to Dante's rescue with Arkham, Dante relenting at the very last and trying desperately to SAVE Vergil --and Vergil is AWARE that Dante wants him to return HOME.
It's very hard to put into words, but it's hardly wishful thinking.
All I can say is, its really THERE and its not to hard to find. ^__^
Things heat up from there, especially when
annataria declares to be a LOL psychology student (at 45?), elvenpath counters that she independantly studied (internet?) psychology for years and that entitles her to declare things such asAs someone who's independently studied psychology for years, I have a hard time believing that someone who's deeply studied into the field would take everything they've learned and equate Dante & Vergil's relationship to "THEY MUST BE FUCKING!!1ONE"
They proceed to argue about psychology and brotherfucking, before
elvenpath walks out, "lest I say something that ends us on fandom_wank." Oops too late! Just before rosiesintherain gets to the meat of her agument, too, which is ye old WAH YOU ARE NOT CATERING TO *MY* KINKS, along with a complete non-sequitur into the INCEST LOVERS ARE PEDOPHILES litany we've heard time and time before:I don't understand how anybody could find two siblings screwing each other hot, let alone liking it, especially if it's as twisted and as abnormal as you say it is. Really makes me wonder about the fan, personally.
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Doesn't surprise me. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there whole find grown men who sleep with four year old girls hot too.
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No, seriously. If a large group of people can find two brothers screwing each other hot and even admit to the relationship as being abnormal and twisted and STILL liking it, then it wouldn't surprise me if a large group of people would find pedophilia hot.
Fuck, visit the LoK fandom. A large group of people also find Necrophilia hot.
In short, everyone pretty much loses here in a very WAHT way
Screencapped because annataria is a naughty, naughty person who loves to delete comments.
ETA: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE GODWIN.
