Entry tags:

entitlement, fandom: harry potter, internet lawyers, this is the wank that never ends

"We differ so greatly as to be polar opposites"
The Leaky Cauldron publicly separates from the Lexicon.

[W]e do not think a win for J.K. Rowling means tighter controls on fan creativity at all, and are concerned for the opposite, as well as the attempt to misportray the issues of the case as stated in sworn affadavits. So, after a few days of careful and many-sided discussion, we, as a full staff, decided that people who have such a fundamental disconnect in beliefs cannot and should not be partners in name or spirit, and two days ago informed the Lexicon that we are severing our association....

And while Leaky has always owned the hp-lexicon.org domain and paid for the site’s hosting, we’ve promised to transfer the domain to Steve as soon as litigation is complete (a stipulation that would not have been made had ownership not been mentioned in court documents). We will continue to pay for hosting and provide free support until that day.

Note: Compare this statement to the hosting discussion back in December. There's a pretty big discrepancy there, is all I'm saying.

ETA:

lidane brings us a small sampling of comment wank. Also, did you know that this is a Fifth Amendment issue?

ETA 2, via

cbm and

insanitys_place: The defense has requested JKR as a witness.

ETA 3: SVA leaves a comment at the Lexicon site; the Times Online (UK) weighs in with "J. K. Rowling determined to block RDR Books' Harry Potter 'rip-off' "; a discussion of UK law from another site that has admitted to not reading the manuscript; someone is "baffled at how people are so willing to accept the notion that authors own the ideas they publish"; and I really don't even know what's going on here.

ETA 4: More from SVA in a Lexicon thread.

(Something that might be helpful: get ETAs emailed to you from Watch That Page. It's how I keep track of things elsewhere.)

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waltraute
2008-03-24 05:52 pm UTC (link)

This commenter is PURE GOLD:

I think a win for Joe would be a bad move on fandom as a whole…...if she doesn’t like the contents of your site she can have it closed. If your fic is not to her taste she can have it removed. Saddly this has been approved but all you sheep that are lead by this site so blindly because “It’s JOE and I would support her no matter what.” mentality. People wake up, we have something that is called the fifth amendment and I like Steve have opt to use it.

1. She can already shut your site down, if it uses copyrighted material, if she doesn't like it: look at the travails of fans of Star Trek and the X-Files, in the past.

2. I suppose Steve could plead the Fifth...

3. Hi, my name is Joe, I work all day in a button factory...

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	sparkysrevenge 2008-03-24 06:55 pm UTC (link)
	Methinks this poster should return to his/her Civics class, yes? Fifth amendment? Really? Also, icon love. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	flightstothesea 2008-03-24 07:07 pm UTC (link)
	Well really, did you expect a SVA supporter to have a firm grasp on the law? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sparkysrevenge 2008-03-24 08:12 pm UTC (link)
	Well, no, but 1st and 5th amendment issues are basic. Of course, there I go, using American Earth Logic again... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mmanurere 2008-03-24 09:26 pm UTC (link)
	Given that even presidential candidates get the 1st (and the rest of the Constitution) horrifyingly wrong...I guess I shouldn't be so disappointed with the fantwits. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	rhrsoulmates 2008-03-24 07:01 pm UTC (link)
	“It’s JOE and I would support her no matter what.” Did JO have a sex change operation when I wasn't looking? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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auralan
2008-03-25 12:38 am UTC (link)
I did not need to read this after the salami discussion up thread.

Anybody have some spare brain bleach handy?
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singe
2008-03-27 06:23 am UTC (link)
Here.
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luthe
2008-03-25 02:45 am UTC (link)
Why does she need a sex change when she has a strap-on made of lawyers that will ream Steve's ass worse than Thor?
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drakyndra
2008-03-25 07:35 am UTC (link)
...

There are truly no words for that sort of mental image.
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There is not enough bleach in the world.
windex_junkie
2008-03-25 03:49 pm UTC (link)
I knew what that was before I even moused-over the link.

D: I have spent entirely too much time on the wrong parts of the interwebs.
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Re: There is not enough bleach in the world. - luthe, 2008-03-26 05:22 am UTC

Re: There is not enough bleach in the world. - cmdr_zoom, 2008-03-26 10:03 am UTC

tez
2008-03-24 07:33 pm UTC (link)
3. Hi, my name is Joe, I work all day in a button factory...

The levels of win in this particular remark are over nine thousand.
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puipui
2008-03-24 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Hi, my name is Joe, I work all day in a button factory...

One day my boss said to me, "Hey, Joe! Are you busy?"
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waltraute
2008-03-24 09:01 pm UTC (link)
One day my boss said to me, "Hey, Joe! Are you busy?"

I said, "No! I'm getting ready to SUE THE PANTS OFF OF AN INNOCENT FAN AND MAKE MORE MONEY FOR MYSELF!"
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puipui
2008-03-24 09:06 pm UTC (link)
"SIGN THIS C&D WITH YOUR RIGHT HAND!"
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nekoneko
2008-03-24 09:45 pm UTC (link)
ILU.
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karmyn75
2008-03-24 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Well, Steve did accidently become a woman in the last round so I guess it's Jo's turn to become a man.
She still has more balls then Steve no matter what gender she is this week.
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sparkysrevenge
2008-03-24 11:07 pm UTC (link)
Hey, at least she has great boobs. More than can be said for SVA.
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puipui
2008-03-24 11:41 pm UTC (link)
GIP BABY!
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vzg
2008-03-25 10:27 am UTC (link)
And crazier folks like Anne Rice.
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lingvo
2008-03-25 01:03 pm UTC (link)
The Fifth amendment, that's the Double Jeopardy one, right?

So: if he gets convicted for this book, he can publish all the following ones without a problem?

cunning!
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cleolinda
2008-03-25 01:33 pm UTC (link)
Nah, that's the one where you can't be made to incriminate yourself on the stand, leading to people "pleading the Fifth" when they don't want to answer.
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sarkasm
2008-03-25 07:25 pm UTC (link)
So THAT'S where it comes from. (Canadian here)
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stella_polaris
2008-03-26 09:50 pm UTC (link)
I thought it was something like that. Thanks.

(Finnish here)
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