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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-04-15 08:08:00


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Entry tags:entitlement, fandom: harry potter, internet lawyers, person: jkr, this is the wank that never ends

Lexicon trial, day 2
From what I've heard SVA will testify today. Keep in mind, also--I can't remember which blogger said it, but apparently Judge Patterson looks and sounds a lot like John Huston, which adds an extra layer of awesome to the whole thing.

To start the morning off: TLC comment wank; the Hollywood Reporter weighs in; Y ALOHA THAR!

More as it comes. Watch This Page for update alerts.

Quick ETA: From rosina_alcona: The Guardian's The strange case of Harry Potter and the battle of US district court 24A. From an anonymouse: The Telegraph's
less sympathetic article.

Also, [info]diane_duane brings us the Lexicon news widget.

ETA 2: Holy hell, you guys. The morning update was the last time I was at a computer, so I am DROWNING now. Here's what I was able to pull together in about an hour:

From [info]reddiej: USAToday covers SVA's testimony. "A Harry Potter fan who sought to publish an encyclopedic guide to the wildly popular fantasy novels broke down and cried on the witness stand Tuesday as he faced off in court against his idol J.K. Rowling.... He said he was talked into doing it by the publishing company." (FW thread)

From an anonymouse: "Via the comments on TLC, according to the Law Blog at wsj.com, they stuck Jo right in front of the witness stand during Steve's testimony." (FW thread)

Cendali tried to elicit a sense of the copyright knowledge that Vander Ark, a longtime librarian, might have, and that perhaps he knew ahead of time that RDR planned to infringe Rowling’s copyright. Cendali showed an e-mail from Vander Ark to the host of another Potter fan site. Vander Ark, apparently disillusioned with the deal he struck with RDR in August, wrote: “I am more than willing to dissociate myself with RDR. They have lied to me, misled me, taken advantage of me and in the end ruined my good standing with fans and with Rowling.”

Well, if nothing else, I'll be interested to see if people treat SVA's tears differently from JKR's.

From an anonymouse: More SVA testimony. "He defended not using quotation marks and not listing Rowling as an author. 'It's a reference book,' he said. 'If I was writing a reference book to Shakespeare, I wouldn't list Shakespeare.' " (FW thread)

The Leaky Cauldron updates as well. Meanwhile, Melissa has now recused herself:

I will no longer be posting news updates; I have recused myself from this case from the moment the e-mail in question was mentioned, as it was mine. I have made no news posts since discovering it would potentially be used and took no notes from the moment it was. Kristin will be handling news posts from here on out.

The email is question is from January, and was read out loud after Mr. Vander Ark said he did not feel RDR had lied to or misled him.

From [info]kuromitsu: Another WB/JKR statement. Via Leaky Lounge: Video of JKR's statement yesterday.

(Also, via [info]hinoema from the same thread: Should the Lexicon really be up for sale right now...?

From [info]ari_o: Another legal writeup from praetorianguard. (FW thread)

Hammer’s cross-examination of JKR was fishing at best. He asked far too many questions that he didn’t know the answer to, and he didn’t have back-up in case she gave an answer he didn’t like. Fishing – asking questions when you don’t know the answer, but you hope that you’ll get the answer you want – is always dangerous, but particularly when you’re examining witnesses you haven’t prepared. Direct examinations, that is, lawyers asking questions of their own witnesses, is supposed to go well; you have the time and opportunity to essentially script the performance. Cross-examining, or asking questions of the other side’s witnesses that you haven’t had a chance to talk to ahead of time, has the opportunity to go really well or really badly.

[...]

By contrast, Cendali’s cross-examination of RDR President Roger Rapoport was a beautiful bit of legal work. She would ask him a question, usually if he did something like e-mailing foreign publishers while he told WB that he was in mourning, he’d say he “didn’t remember”, and she’d pick up an e-mail that showed that he did exactly that.

Via Leaky Lounge: legionseagle has a writeup as well.

From [info]alexielnet: Epic fail in the TLC comments. I believe the same poster then shows up here.

... And now I have 582 comments to get through. *sob*

ETA 3: WSJ Law Blog: Judge in Potter Trial Calls on Parties to Settle. Again, you may want to imagine John Huston saying this:
Judge Patterson removed his glasses and addressed the court. “I’m concerned that this case is more lawyer-driven than it is client-driven,” he lamented. “The fair use people are on one side, and a large company is on the other side. . . . The parties ought to see if there’s not a way to work this out, because there are strong issues in this case and it could come out one way or the other. The fair use doctrine is not clear.”

“I’m bringing it up now so you can think about it before you get into the rest of the case,” Judge Patterson added. “Maybe it’s too late; maybe we’ve gone too far down the road. But a settlement is better than a lawsuit.”

The plea came as plaintiffs counsel Marvin Putnam of O’Melveny was cross examining a witness, an exchange that seemed to leave the lawyer frustrated and losing patience. The Judge broke in to point out that it was four o’clock, and asked Putnam how much longer he needed. Putnam apologized, and said he’d need quite a bit longer.

From [info]luthe: Did JKR craft the Pie Chart of Doom herself? "She talked about a chart she had made with her daughter, Jessica, at her dining room table in her home, comparing the Lexicon book to her text; no one asked her to make the chart, she said, but 'I felt extremely strongly.' " Well, it does explain why "flints" are on there, because I can't imagine the lawyers would have known what those were.  [info]spacelogic: "My sister's comment on that: 'Yep, she's Hermione, all right!' " ETA: Apparently JKR made a different chart. Aww.

[info]ms_treesap brings us the Littlest Rickroll.

Latest:

ETA 4: More color commentary from jkrtrialblog on SVA's testimony:

Though I do not support Vander Ark, nor do I care for the lawyers defending RDR, the entire courtroom couldn’t help but laugh when Vander Ark said, “this is exciting,” regarding Alohamora’s origin. The lawyer, obviously beyond unenthused, said, “I’m thrilled myself.”

[...]

When asked if he would not be working RDR following the Lexicon book because he felt he was being misled, he adamantly denied such an allegation. Rowling’s lawyer then brought in a new piece of evidence. She distributed to the judge, Vander Ark, and RDR’s lawyers, a copy of an email sent by Mr. Vander Ark to Melissa Anelli. He stated in the email that he felt RDR had lied to and misled him and that they ruined his standing with fans and JKR and that was why he wouldn’t work with them anymore. The still silence following this piece of evidence leaves me with the conclusion that it’s very possible that RDR did not know that Vander Ark was saying such things behind their back.

As part of evidence, a video clip from a Harry Potter conference that took place in Toronto in August of 2007 was shown. It was about 15 seconds long and showed a bit of Vander Ark’s presentation. From his speech, we heard him say, “Jo quit. We’re taking over now.” [...] Aside from that, the judge was not happy to learn that this brief clip and short excerpt of his speech was the only part of the video brought into evidence. Vander Ark, who should have kept his mouth shut, joked that most of the rest of his presentation could be found on YouTube.



Quick ETA 5: From [info]ari_o: The NYT has a crush on SVA.



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[info]atom_bunny
2008-04-15 04:11 pm UTC (link)
And now to settle in for round two. Headache be damned!

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(no subject) - [info]auralan, 2008-04-15 04:16 pm UTC

[info]queencallipygos
2008-04-15 04:20 pm UTC (link)
FYI -- the "watch this page" link is linking to the main login page for "Watch That Page" rather than anything monitoring the Potterdamerung.

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[info]jujubee
2008-04-15 04:22 pm UTC (link)
Who else is hoping SVA will bring up his deep and lasting friendship with JKR?

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(no subject) - [info]auralan, 2008-04-15 04:25 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]jujubee, 2008-04-15 04:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wolfsamurai, 2008-04-15 06:15 pm UTC
love games - [info]rossywar, 2008-04-15 08:26 pm UTC
Re: love games - [info]capsulekei, 2008-04-16 02:16 am UTC
Re: love games - [info]hickorydickory, 2008-04-16 02:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wook77, 2008-04-15 09:00 pm UTC
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[info]wrackspurt
2008-04-15 04:39 pm UTC (link)
*settles in with the popcorn and the vodka again*

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(no subject) - [info]vitalitat, 2008-04-15 07:08 pm UTC
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[info]drakyndra
2008-04-15 04:40 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if we will get any more comments of pwnage from JKR?

SVA speaking is going to be lolarious, though. I just know it.

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[info]sarahkjrsten
2008-04-15 04:43 pm UTC (link)
Although I know she won't testify, I really hope Jo will get to sneak in some awesome snark today.

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(no subject) - [info]atom_bunny, 2008-04-15 04:46 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]auralan, 2008-04-15 04:54 pm UTC
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[info]demonoflight
2008-04-15 04:46 pm UTC (link)
I can't wait for SVA to testify. It has to be incredibly lulzy.

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[info]southerngaelic
2008-04-15 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Hmmm. SVA testifying and providing lulz vs revision. Hmmmm.

*continues to hit refresh*

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[info]beejium
2008-04-15 04:56 pm UTC (link)
This totally makes up for me being incredibly ill. I get to stay home all day and watch wank unfold!

Also, people need to stop mentioning popcorn because I'm too sick to go out and buy some and, goddamn, am I ever craving it now.

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(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2008-04-15 07:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beejium, 2008-04-15 07:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2008-04-15 08:38 pm UTC

[info]moriath
2008-04-15 05:02 pm UTC (link)
Can I just say that I love you, Cleo? Possibly in an inappropriate way?

If only I didn't have to work during the day. ~contemplates getting mysteriously ill tomorrow~

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(no subject) - [info]insanitys_place, 2008-04-15 08:29 pm UTC

[info]sarahkjrsten
2008-04-15 05:06 pm UTC (link)
I have to go to classes today.

Is it say if I plan to try and bring this up in every class?

"And what do these sedimentary rocks tell us about the depositional environment?"
"Deposition! Hey! Let me tell you about this trial that's going on..."

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[info]eucalyptus
2008-04-15 05:07 pm UTC (link)
Maxicon! Hahahahaha!

What, it's eternally funny. XP

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(no subject) - [info]blackflag, 2008-04-16 06:24 am UTC
*reposted from Day 1 post*
[info]luthe
2008-04-15 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Did anyone else notice that the Pie Chart of DOOM (and lulz) originated with JKR?

She talked about a chart she had made with her daughter, Jessica, at her dining room table in her home, comparing the Lexicon book to her text; no one asked her to make the chart, she said, but “I felt extremely strongly.”

I am not sure the woman can get any sexier.

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Re: *reposted from Day 1 post* - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-04-15 05:23 pm UTC
Re: *reposted from Day 1 post* - (Anonymous), 2008-04-15 05:51 pm UTC
Re: *reposted from Day 1 post* - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-04-15 06:37 pm UTC
Re: *reposted from Day 1 post* - [info]solelyfictional, 2008-04-15 07:17 pm UTC
Re: *reposted from Day 1 post* - [info]luthe, 2008-04-15 07:55 pm UTC
Re: *reposted from Day 1 post* - [info]solelyfictional, 2008-04-15 10:27 pm UTC
Re: *reposted from Day 1 post* - [info]spacelogic, 2008-04-15 08:19 pm UTC
I really wish it had come from her - [info]cbm, 2008-04-16 04:27 am UTC

[info]notjo
2008-04-15 05:16 pm UTC (link)
[info]diane_duane never stops being awesome. *swoon*

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[info]palabradot
2008-04-15 05:26 pm UTC (link)
*settles back with coffee to watch the lulz and pwn*

I hate being stuck at work with people who don't know this is going on, wouldn't care if they *did*, and thus look at me funny as I slap my hand over my mouth to muffle laughter.

Keep up the good work, FW!

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[info]rhiannonmr
2008-04-15 05:30 pm UTC (link)
I'm enjoying this. So very glad I work from home otherwise I'd be missing huge chunks of this.

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[info]cbm
2008-04-15 05:34 pm UTC (link)
I just wish I could be there when JKR's lawyer asks Steve Vander Ark if he knows what paraphrasing is? And then ask if is there any of it in the Lexicon?

Will he stick to his answer from his declaration? In it he said that "the entries in questions[sic] are not “paraphrasings” – in each case, they were written by me and my staff." I hope so, I would love to see JKR's lawyer pull out a dictionary and show Steve the meaning of the word.

Or how about does the Lexicon contain analysis and commentary? In follow up, look at this page from you book, could you please read everything on the page that is analysis or commentary? Silence follows.

I really should have gone. :(

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(Anonymous)
2008-04-15 05:34 pm UTC (link)
Truly, this is an amazing time to be on the internets.

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Lexicon website down?
[info]selene_avis
2008-04-15 05:50 pm UTC (link)
It might just be me, but hp-lexicon.org is down...and I was able to access it last night.

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Re: Lexicon website down? - [info]kuromitsu, 2008-04-15 05:51 pm UTC
Re: Just me, I guess. - [info]selene_avis, 2008-04-15 06:03 pm UTC
Re: Just me, I guess. - [info]kuromitsu, 2008-04-15 06:11 pm UTC
Re: Just me, I guess. - [info]florence_craye, 2008-04-15 06:14 pm UTC
Re: Lexicon website down? - [info]jujubee, 2008-04-15 05:51 pm UTC
Re: Just me, I guess. - [info]selene_avis, 2008-04-15 06:03 pm UTC
Re: Just me, I guess. - [info]southerngaelic, 2008-04-15 06:06 pm UTC
Re: Just me, I guess. - [info]florence_craye, 2008-04-15 06:15 pm UTC
Re: Just me, I guess. - (Anonymous), 2008-04-15 10:39 pm UTC
Re: Lexicon website down? - (Anonymous), 2008-04-15 06:03 pm UTC
Re: Lexicon website down? - (Anonymous), 2008-04-15 06:05 pm UTC
Re: Lexicon website down? - [info]auralan, 2008-04-15 06:16 pm UTC
Re: Lexicon website down? - (Anonymous), 2008-04-15 06:21 pm UTC
Re: Lexicon website down? - [info]black_spot, 2008-04-15 07:56 pm UTC

[info]ahiru
2008-04-15 06:01 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure SVA's testimony will probably be a thing of beauty. I look forward to him explaining how Harry Potter belongs to the fans now and how he and JKR are totally bestest best friends just having a little tiff (in court. With lawyers).

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(no subject) - [info]hinoema, 2008-04-15 06:11 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]icedark_elf, 2008-04-15 06:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hinoema, 2008-04-15 07:01 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2008-04-15 06:17 pm UTC (link)
Another analysis from Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/daily-brief/2008/04/14/harry-potter-and-the-chamber-of-copyright-law") :"it was as if Judge Robert Patterson had never been asked to cross reference entries for "Florean Fortescue's Ice Cream Parlor" before."

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Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win!
(Anonymous)
2008-04-15 06:38 pm UTC (link)

Just been looking out of interest and while they are not marketing the book on Amazon or on the Methuen website it is up for sale on the Tesco and WHSmith websites in the UK, it says its going to be released on the 26th April.

I'm not sure about the original cover but it now says 'Edited by' SVA, but I thought he toiled for hours writing the whole thing himself?? I feel cheated.

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Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]miss_eponine, 2008-04-15 06:40 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - (Anonymous), 2008-04-15 06:56 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]rowanberries, 2008-04-15 06:53 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]hinoema, 2008-04-15 07:05 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]hinoema, 2008-04-15 07:10 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]seca, 2008-04-15 08:25 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]puipui, 2008-04-15 09:13 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]wolfsamurai, 2008-04-15 07:10 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]southerngaelic, 2008-04-15 07:39 pm UTC
Re: Hmmm, looks like they are expecting to win! - [info]mary_mac, 2008-04-15 09:44 pm UTC

[info]missnanna
2008-04-15 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Meanwhile, the Dutch news is doing zilch with this story. Strange, cause it's not like there's any big national news.

My sister's coming over for dinner, so I can't compulsively refresh, but I'll be sure to check back in a couple of hours.

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[info]rowanberries
2008-04-15 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Okay, look, I'm making a deal with myself here. I'm going to the garden, where there is NO INTERNET, to do today's assigned dissertation reading. If I finish it, then and only then may I come back to look at this.

Solidarity, students!

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[info]yukina_raven
2008-04-15 06:57 pm UTC (link)
I'm seriously considering staying home from work today to keep an eye on this.

Delicious wank... or getting to eat this week.... delicious wank... or getting to eat this week... hmmm... Decisions, decisions.

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