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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-04-22 06:05:00


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Entry tags:entitlement, fandom: harry potter, internet lawyers, person: anne rice, person: jkr, this is the wank that never ends

Sorry to post again, but this is fairly significant: via Leaky Lounge, full transcripts of all three days of the Lexicon trial. They are from Stanford (whose Fair Use Project is providing RDR's defense), but it's more than we've had before. The discussion of these transcripts at LL is worth reading, by the way.

(Previously on the Thirty Years’ Wank: A metric ton of articles and an interview with SVA. Watch This Page for update alerts.)

ETA: Anne Rice weighs in.

ETA 2 (May 1): Okay, I'm a bit behind on ETA links, but:

[info]insanitys_place: The Lexicon has corrected the "Alohomora" entry with information from JKR's testimony... not that it's credited as such.

Neil Gaiman weighs in again (and again).

[info]waltraute: Orson Scott Card weighs in.

[info]foresthouse: "This article from CNN by "a legal analyst on "American Morning" is new and discusses the law and views from different lawyers (like Tim Wu who was mentioned before). It's well written."

[info]jedi_dwh: "The Hollywood Reporter is still on the case, and doing a pretty good job of keeping things balanced. It appears their law writers actually- GASP- do their homework!"

Ouch: Potter fan a crybaby in court.




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[info]senor_pinata
2008-04-22 11:40 am UTC (link)
This is going to take hours and gallons of coffee to read.

LET'S PARTY.

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[info]grrliz
2008-04-22 11:45 am UTC (link)
1) I started reading the transcripts as if they were a really bad play.

2) STANFORD LAW SCHOOL CENTER FOR INTERNET AND SOCIETY LOL

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[info]fools_game
2008-04-22 12:18 pm UTC (link)
I should go to bed. I really should go...

Q. You don't have any advanced degrees of any sort, do you,
8 Mr. Vander Ark?
9 A. I have taken courses, graduate courses in library science
10 and literacy.
11 Q. But you don't have any advanced degrees beyond the BA, is
12 that correct?
13 A. That is correct.
14 Q. And the middle school you had worked for asked for your
15 resignation in 2007, is that true?
16 A. That is correct.


Feel the burn, Steve. Feel it.

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[info]demonbean
2008-04-22 12:43 pm UTC (link)
Damnit, class, why must I go to you ... ?

*bookmarks pages for later*

Thanks, Cleo!

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[info]melyanna
2008-04-22 01:16 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure I can stomach this unless I pull some people together for dramatic readings.

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[info]benighted
2008-04-22 01:47 pm UTC (link)
The Thirty Wars' Wank? More like "JKR has always been at war with SVA, civilian" wank.

New transcripts = ♥. How do you find the time to bring us this delicious lulz?

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(no subject) - [info]insanitys_place, 2008-04-22 05:54 pm UTC
SO MANY LULZ
[info]llama_treats
2008-04-22 01:53 pm UTC (link)

21 Q. And what you say in that award is this is such a great site
22 that I have been known to sneak into an internet cafe while out
23 writing and check a fact rather than go into a book store and
24 by a copy of Harry Potter, which is embarrassing. A website
25 for the dangerously obsessive; my natural home.
1 That's your language, correct?
2 A. That's my language.
3 Q. That wasn't written by Mr. Vander Ark, was it?
4 A. Well, it probably will be at some point, but no, he hasn't
5 done it yet.

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Re: SO MANY LULZ - [info]waltraute, 2008-04-22 02:00 pm UTC
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[info]mpoetess
2008-04-22 02:19 pm UTC (link)
Bah, Leaky is blocked at work because somebody somewhere knows it's a messageboard/forum. For those in a similar sitch, the Stanford page with the transcripts is here.

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[info]wieimmer
2008-04-22 03:48 pm UTC (link)
153
84EVWAR5 Rapoport - direct
1 A. Right. That's what I wrote, yes.
2 Q. Okay. Now, I'd like to direct your attention now to
3 Plaintiffs' Exhibit 77. And you see a cover there, The
4 Muskegon Chronicle, from July 23rd, 2007?
5 A. Correct.
6 Q. And I'd like to -- if Mr. Hoy, if you can go to the next
7 page of that exhibit.
8 Do you see an article there titled "Schlumpy Librarian
9 Holds Key to All Things Harry Potter"?


At least they're not comparing him to Harry Potter.
Also, the Rappaport questioning is amazing.

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[info]major_fischer
2008-04-22 04:02 pm UTC (link)
18 Q. What did you mean, sir, when you said that there were --
19 what did you mean by "academic scholar" in this email?
20 A. Well, I think Steve is a pretty good example.
21 THE COURT: Who?
22 THE WITNESS: Steve Vander Ark, the author. I think
23 he's a good example.
24 Q. Of an academic scholar?
25 A. You bet.
1 Q. Any others?
2 A. All the people you just named.
3 Q. They are all academic scholars?
4 A. They all have -- in this world that they are in, they do
5 reference work, they do indexing, they do research, they do --
6 yes, this is a good example. It's not unlike Wikipedia.
7 Q. Any masters or Ph.D.s in literature?
8 A. No.
9 Q. Did you tell that to Mr. Valet in that email
10 A. No.

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[info]major_fischer
2008-04-22 04:14 pm UTC (link)
Rapport on Direct, day one. About the family death.

Q. And you were -- advised us of a family tragedy of yours,
19 right?
20 A. Right.
21 Q. And as you said: You can imagine this has overwhelmed all
22 of us, we are a very close family and I am sure you can
23 understand that this situation has interrupted all of my work
24 including your request.
25 Is that right?
1 A. Yes.
2 Q. And isn't it true, Mr. Rapoport, that it didn't really
3 interrupt all of your work, right?
4 A. I don't understand the question.
5 Q. Well, let's take a look at Exhibit 120.
6 THE COURT: 120.
7 BY MR. SHALLMAN:
8 Q. Do you see an e-mail to Mr. Riff from you dated October
9 3rd, 2007?
10 A. I do.
11 Q. About an hour later, an hour after you had sent that e-mail
12 to us, is that right?
13 A. That's right.

14 Q. And you said here is a copy of our flyer for the Harry
15 Potter Lexicon, right?
16 A. Right.
17 Q. And you said you were going to send sample pages to
18 Mr. Riff and the British cover the next day, right?
19 A. That's true.
20 Q. You also offered to send the entire manuscript via e-mail,
21 is that right?
22 A. That's true.
23 Q. But one hour before that you had told us that all of your
24 work had been interrupted, right?
25 A. That's true.

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