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themadscientist ([info]themadscientist) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-05-19 18:08:00


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Entry tags:actors, fandom: supernatural, fandom_wank's thoughts on yaoi, in ur wank - swapping our foodz, interrogating from the wrong perspective, misogyny soup, please mommy make it stop, recipes in comments, sexism, still not funny, stop sharing your thoughts, too many fucking tags, unfunny business, wanking inside the house, we love jf tags, what is wrong with you people?, what the shit is this?

Women Who Hate Dean Hating Women Hating... wait.
Let's see if I can do this properly.

Hiatus in the Supernatural fandom officially started last Friday, and already fans are getting a little stir-crazy.
There have been small-time rumblings from various corners of LJ this season over gender issues and many of these rumblings have involved Dean Winchester, one of the two stars of Supernatural.

There are spoilers about the finale of course.


Let's start things out with a calm-ish post by [info]esorlehcarwherein we learn that she was very upset by the finale:
http://esorlehcar.livejournal.com/581689.html

And a follow-up with links to Why Using Sexist Language is Bad And Like Racism Only Not
http://esorlehcar.livejournal.com/581952.html

But she's not the only one who was upset. lj-user sevenfists was BORED with Dean's death:
http://sevenfists.livejournal.com/182497.html#cutid1

The misogyny is so bad, people might not watch next season they're so upset!
http://butterfly.livejournal.com/1206981.html#cutid2
http://deadbeat-nymph.livejournal.com/15619.html

But fear not SPN fandom, for we have numbers to back up this dramatic turn of events. trollprincess brings in the statistics with Bitchwatch:
http://trollprincess.livejournal.com/1617144.html
http://trollprincess.livejournal.com/1617299.html
http://trollprincess.livejournal.com/1618164.html

All of the above have been fairly calm, all things considered, but the real wank starts pouring in when sazzlette posts a rebuttal called Dean Winchester is a sexist asshole
http://sazzlette.livejournal.com/394683.html
She starts it out with:
Dear all of you whiny, self important females.

Please, for the love of God, shut the fuck up about Dean and his misogyny. I have to say that, to a point, I agree with you. It annoys me that Sam has taken after his brother and started behaving like a jerk. This has never been a part of Sam's character the way it has Dean's, and I think they're taking this whole Sam-becoming-like-Dean thing too far. Sam and Dean generally annoy me this season, in fact, but that's an entirely different kettle of fish.


Uh oh.

esorlehcar, naturally, makes a response:
http://esorlehcar.livejournal.com/582298.html
I always wonder if anyone actually thinks the "shut the fuck up and get out of my fandom if you don't agree with me" posts will actually work.

They don't?
The gauntlet has been thrown down, and now the wank is spreading throughout LJ-land, with many SPN fans posting either "I agree and Dean sucks!"; "I agree and Kripke sucks!"; "I disagree and you suck!' and "I am upset over fandom and wank sucks!"

There's a lesson to be learned here Sam fellow FW'ers: it really is going to be a long summer for SPN fans.

eta: and for added FAIL, the poster of this wank has not figured out auto-formatting. Would anyone be kind enough to link me to the FAQ that deals with LJ-tags? When I try to use the search function I keep running into a page about harassment. Maybe it is a sign?




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Here's a fuckin' drink recipe
[info]sadisticferret
2008-05-20 02:58 pm UTC (link)
And it's quick, easy and will hit you like a hammer.

Tropical Cola

1 oz. coconut rum
1 oz. banana rum
12 oz. Coca-Cola.
Ice (optional)

Drink until nothing hurts anymore. After reading this wank I could do with one or ten myself, only the doctor says I can't drink for at least another week, and anyway it's only 10 AM.

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Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]notjo, 2008-05-20 05:22 pm UTC
Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]sadisticferret, 2008-05-20 06:42 pm UTC
Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]randomsome1, 2008-05-21 01:48 am UTC
Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]sepiamagpie, 2008-05-21 03:28 am UTC
Yummy - [info]rusty_halo, 2008-05-21 04:56 pm UTC
Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]staroverthebay, 2008-05-20 08:51 pm UTC
Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]notjo, 2008-05-21 12:24 am UTC
... - [info]staroverthebay, 2008-05-21 01:51 am UTC
... - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2008-05-21 11:04 am UTC
Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]beejium, 2008-05-20 10:24 pm UTC
Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]caito, 2008-05-21 05:01 am UTC
Re: Here's a fuckin' drink recipe - [info]brennalarose, 2008-05-23 11:22 pm UTC

[info]blankverses
2008-05-20 03:55 pm UTC (link)
I came here first before I checked my lj, and now I'm afraid to go over there and see the asplodey mayhem of my flist. Ugh, guys, it's not even been a week and we're already loosing our shit. It's like we won't rest happy until we take the crown of wankery from the HP fandom (although we've got a long way to go before we get to that plane of crazy). That's -- that's not something we should be striving for, y'all.

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[info]esclaramonde
2008-05-20 04:16 pm UTC (link)
If only this had been posted in [Bad username: unfunny_business], so we could skip over the fights about posting our thoughts on yaoi and just post the thoughts.

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(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 04:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]esclaramonde, 2008-05-20 04:40 pm UTC
... - [info]pet, 2008-05-20 05:39 pm UTC
... - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-05-20 06:27 pm UTC
Wheeee!! ICONS.
[info]susannaheanes
2008-05-20 04:29 pm UTC (link)

Sorry, I don't think the show is sexist, nor do I think his potty mouth means he hates women, or is inclined to beat up female human beings - which do NOT include demons wearing a female "meat-suit." And, as a former victim of rape and physical abuse, I'm obviously crazy, because I make a distinction between language, and action.

Oh, and it's me, prettyfreckles at LJ.

I COMMISSIONED ICONS. HAVE SOME.

I'd love to see some of this venom over the supposed misogyny of Show directed at (warning: graphic picture of an abused woman in 3rd link) Some Real Misogynists.

Dean's character is a selfless human being who saves people's lives. He is also not perfect. Thank God.






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Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]onaga, 2008-05-20 04:37 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]damnedfallacy, 2008-05-20 05:37 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]pet, 2008-05-20 05:40 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]blankverses, 2008-05-20 06:37 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]bof, 2008-05-20 06:58 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]lab, 2008-05-20 04:39 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]lab, 2008-05-20 04:41 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 04:39 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]sadisticferret, 2008-05-20 04:39 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]brown_betty, 2008-05-20 04:41 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]esclaramonde, 2008-05-20 04:41 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]breecita, 2008-05-20 04:46 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 05:47 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]alya1989262, 2008-05-20 06:03 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]cyndra_falin, 2008-05-20 04:48 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]donna, 2008-05-20 04:48 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]mael, 2008-05-20 04:58 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]nam_jai, 2008-05-20 05:20 pm UTC
... - [info]notjo, 2008-05-20 05:26 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]notjo, 2008-05-20 05:26 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]phosfate, 2008-05-20 07:01 pm UTC
... - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-05-20 08:10 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]pipssister, 2008-05-20 05:26 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-05-20 06:31 pm UTC
... - [info]pipssister, 2008-05-20 07:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2008-05-20 05:31 pm UTC
You are utterly pathetic. - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 05:37 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]pet, 2008-05-20 05:44 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 05:51 pm UTC
... - [info]pet, 2008-05-20 05:57 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 09:34 pm UTC
... - [info]pet, 2008-05-20 11:05 pm UTC
... - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-05-21 08:50 am UTC
... - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-05-20 06:32 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 09:27 pm UTC
... - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-05-21 12:30 am UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 07:01 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 09:34 pm UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 09:48 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 10:52 pm UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 10:54 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 11:08 pm UTC
... - [info]nam_jai, 2008-05-21 01:04 am UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-21 03:26 am UTC
... - [info]notjo, 2008-05-21 12:25 am UTC
... - [info]seca, 2008-05-22 11:30 pm UTC
... - [info]brown_betty, 2008-05-21 11:44 pm UTC
This is my favorite part ... - [info]pipssister, 2008-05-20 06:02 pm UTC
... - [info]gun, 2008-05-20 08:30 pm UTC
... - [info]pipssister, 2008-05-20 08:43 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 09:36 pm UTC
My socialized gender binary, let me show you it! - [info]mael, 2008-05-20 06:20 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]nymeria, 2008-05-20 06:36 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]damnedfallacy, 2008-05-20 06:56 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]flightstothesea, 2008-05-20 07:21 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 09:25 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]missdaisy, 2008-05-20 07:58 pm UTC
... - [info]argylespy, 2009-04-28 10:31 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-05-20 08:14 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]ram, 2008-05-20 08:17 pm UTC
... - [info]nam_jai, 2008-05-20 08:24 pm UTC
... - [info]anonyrat, 2008-05-22 07:08 am UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]gun, 2008-05-20 09:17 pm UTC
... - [info]pyewacket, 2008-05-20 10:23 pm UTC
... - [info]seca, 2008-05-22 10:04 pm UTC
... - [info]pyewacket, 2008-05-22 10:37 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]kita0610, 2008-05-20 10:39 pm UTC
... - [info]randomsome1, 2008-05-21 02:11 am UTC
... - [info]rikiki, 2008-05-22 04:52 pm UTC
... - [info]hooloovoo_too, 2008-05-22 03:46 pm UTC
... - [info]seca, 2008-05-22 11:16 pm UTC
... - [info]kita0610, 2008-05-22 11:18 pm UTC
... - [info]scorpio20, 2008-05-23 02:43 am UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]fiiierce, 2008-05-20 10:48 pm UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]ryuutchi, 2008-05-21 12:48 am UTC
... - [info]breecita, 2008-05-21 01:46 am UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]eldritch, 2008-05-21 02:20 am UTC
... - [info]fiiierce, 2008-05-21 02:53 am UTC
... - [info]eldritch, 2008-05-21 02:58 am UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-21 03:21 am UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-21 07:28 am UTC
Re: You are utterly pathetic. - [info]napalmnacey, 2008-05-21 04:37 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]damnedfallacy, 2008-05-20 05:38 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]napalmnacey, 2008-05-21 04:52 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 05:46 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]pipssister, 2008-05-20 05:52 pm UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 06:05 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]nymeria, 2008-05-20 06:31 pm UTC
... - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-05-20 07:27 pm UTC
... - [info]phosfate, 2008-05-20 09:16 pm UTC
... - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-05-20 09:33 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 09:48 pm UTC
... - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-05-20 09:52 pm UTC
... - [info]tehrin, 2008-05-20 11:41 pm UTC
... - [info]breecita, 2008-05-21 12:20 am UTC
... - [info]kadath, 2008-05-21 12:23 am UTC
... - [info]ryuutchi, 2008-05-21 12:49 am UTC
... - [info]kadath, 2008-05-21 12:52 am UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-21 01:17 am UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 09:36 pm UTC
... - [info]phosfate, 2008-05-20 09:41 pm UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 09:47 pm UTC
... - [info]phosfate, 2008-05-20 09:57 pm UTC
... - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2008-05-21 01:33 am UTC
... - [info]nymeria, 2008-05-21 01:04 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]coffee_mug, 2008-05-20 05:51 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]stele3, 2008-05-20 06:00 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]nam_jai, 2008-05-20 06:22 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]seca, 2008-05-22 09:07 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]sepiamagpie, 2008-05-20 06:20 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]nymeria, 2008-05-20 06:24 pm UTC
Having clicked the link through to your post, all I can say is *rofl* - [info]nymeria, 2008-05-21 01:00 am UTC
... - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-05-21 04:42 am UTC
... - [info]susannaheanes, 2008-05-27 12:35 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-05-20 06:26 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-05-20 06:27 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]nymeria, 2008-05-20 06:30 pm UTC
... - [info]phosfate, 2008-05-20 06:59 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-20 10:24 pm UTC
... - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-05-20 10:49 pm UTC
... - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-20 10:52 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]blankverses, 2008-05-20 06:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2008-05-20 07:07 pm UTC
... - [info]milkshake, 2008-05-20 07:28 pm UTC
... - [info]blankverses, 2008-05-20 07:33 pm UTC
... - [info]milkshake, 2008-05-20 07:44 pm UTC
... - [info]blankverses, 2008-05-20 07:56 pm UTC
... - [info]milkshake, 2008-05-20 07:59 pm UTC
... - [info]blankverses, 2008-05-20 08:00 pm UTC
... - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 09:43 pm UTC
... - [info]tehrin, 2008-05-20 11:48 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]ultimi_scopuli, 2008-05-20 06:56 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]sisterelwood, 2008-05-20 06:57 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]flightstothesea, 2008-05-20 07:22 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]smashingstars, 2008-05-20 07:24 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2008-05-20 07:30 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]milkshake, 2008-05-20 07:32 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]missdaisy, 2008-05-20 07:50 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]cyndra_falin, 2008-05-21 06:50 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]ram, 2008-05-20 08:20 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]gun, 2008-05-20 09:18 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 09:24 pm UTC
... - [info]gun, 2008-05-21 05:54 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]tarash, 2008-05-20 09:53 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]napalmnacey, 2008-05-21 05:00 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]beejium, 2008-05-20 10:22 pm UTC
Tell us where it hurts. We'll make it all better. - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-20 10:28 pm UTC
Re: Tell us where it hurts. We'll make it all better. - [info]chibikaijuu, 2008-05-20 11:16 pm UTC
... - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-20 11:56 pm UTC
... - [info]sisterelwood, 2008-05-21 01:22 am UTC
... - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-21 01:29 am UTC
... - [info]stele3, 2008-05-21 01:45 am UTC
... - [info]vanya_elda, 2008-05-22 08:19 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]fairy_tale_echo, 2008-05-20 10:39 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]tehrin, 2008-05-20 11:47 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]ryuutchi, 2008-05-21 01:14 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]annaham, 2008-05-21 03:05 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2008-05-22 01:49 pm UTC
I know it's technically not the right term but I'm still a baby English student, so. . . - iwanttobeasleep, 2008-05-21 04:57 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]napalmnacey, 2008-05-21 05:04 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]zinkchan, 2008-05-21 06:10 am UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]b_jellybean, 2008-05-22 08:15 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]barankhy, 2008-05-21 02:16 pm UTC
I'd love to see some of this venom over the supposed misogyny of Show directed at you? - [info]morgyne, 2008-05-21 02:28 pm UTC
Re: I'd love to see some of this venom over the supposed misogyny of Show directed at you? - [info]susannaheanes, 2008-05-27 12:27 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2008-05-22 01:47 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]briebribeez, 2008-05-26 06:52 pm UTC
Re: Wheeee!! ICONS. - [info]susannaheanes, 2008-05-27 12:29 pm UTC

[info]meyerlemon
2008-05-20 04:34 pm UTC (link)
I am about to start posting links to select comments on this post to my LJ, so I can encourage others to join me in the pointing and laughing at the wankstas.

WHAT IS GOING ON YOU GUYS.

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Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural
[info]marciamarcia
2008-05-20 05:43 pm UTC (link)
Being from Kansas, and having spent a large part of childhood in and around Lawrence, I am congenitally incapable of watching any TV show that claims to use Kansas as a location.

Why? Because they do it wrong. That's right, I nitpick Kansas canon for great justice.

It's the same reason I couldn't ever get into Jericho. I don't care if you're all the way over in Kanorado. You can't see mutha-fuckin' Denver from Kansas, you idiots.

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Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-05-20 05:55 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-20 10:30 pm UTC
... - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-05-20 10:33 pm UTC
... - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-20 10:35 pm UTC
... - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-05-20 10:34 pm UTC
... - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-20 10:42 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]nam_jai, 2008-05-20 06:05 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 06:07 pm UTC
... - [info]nam_jai, 2008-05-20 06:10 pm UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 06:12 pm UTC
... - [info]marciamarcia, 2008-05-20 06:34 pm UTC
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... - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2008-05-20 07:32 pm UTC
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... - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2008-05-21 12:40 am UTC
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... - [info]marciamarcia, 2008-05-20 06:29 pm UTC
... - [info]puipui, 2008-05-20 07:17 pm UTC
... - [info]marciamarcia, 2008-05-20 07:37 pm UTC
... - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2008-05-21 11:12 am UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]marciamarcia, 2008-05-20 06:32 pm UTC
... - [info]damnedfallacy, 2008-05-20 07:06 pm UTC
... - [info]smashingstars, 2008-05-20 07:28 pm UTC
... - [info]marciamarcia, 2008-05-20 07:38 pm UTC
... - [info]damnedfallacy, 2008-05-20 08:07 pm UTC
... - [info]derryderrydown, 2008-05-21 10:48 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-05-20 06:27 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]marciamarcia, 2008-05-20 06:37 pm UTC
... - [info]notjo, 2008-05-20 07:39 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]mpoetess, 2008-05-20 07:28 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]staroverthebay, 2008-05-21 01:58 am UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]marciamarcia, 2008-05-21 02:30 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]eldritch, 2008-05-21 02:25 am UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]ymfaery, 2008-05-21 02:30 am UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]pizoxuat, 2008-05-21 06:03 am UTC
... - [info]marciamarcia, 2008-05-21 02:24 pm UTC
... - [info]pizoxuat, 2008-05-21 04:04 pm UTC
Re: Kansas: Why I don't watch Supernatural - [info]imp, 2008-05-21 08:15 pm UTC
Sigh
[info]darkeyes
2008-05-20 06:24 pm UTC (link)
....


It's all going to end in tears and wankitywank, isn't it?

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Re: Sigh - [info]re_weird, 2008-05-20 10:16 pm UTC

[info]fishies
2008-05-20 06:35 pm UTC (link)
So I guess it's for the best that I watched the first episode, went "huh, it's whole story is based on woman-fridging" and decided to never come back?

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(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2008-05-20 06:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]julian_black, 2008-05-20 07:53 pm UTC
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[info]honorh
2008-05-20 06:37 pm UTC (link)
I'd sit smugly over in my corner and say, "See? Doctor Who fandom is so not the wankiest!", except that Steven Moffat was just announced as the new showrunner, and he has a foot-swallowing instinct to rival Rusty's, particularly with women. Sexism wank at 11:00, Whovians!

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[info]dragonfangirl
2008-05-20 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Does anyone else remember the days when SPN was shiny and new and people were hailing it as the place you could go to get away from all that annoying fandom wankage?

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[info]hallidae
2008-05-20 08:34 pm UTC (link)
Wow. The things you miss when your new sketchbook calls. Maybe I should heed that call more often.

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[info]sisterelwood
2008-05-20 09:05 pm UTC (link)
Chapter and verse, same as the first...

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[info]prolific
2008-05-20 09:11 pm UTC (link)
This wank is so ironic, considering the SPN fandom itself is home to the biggest cesspool of female misogynists in the history of ever, pretty much. Kripke & Co. have been taking their cues from the fans on a lot of things, and this is no exception.

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[info]pyewacket
2008-05-20 09:56 pm UTC (link)
I'm sorry if it hurts, but we live in a patriarchal society that is riddled with misogyny. No, I'm not saying it's okay. I'm saying it just IS.

She's right! What's all this feminism and equality nonsense? We should all just lay back and think of England.

Somebody hold on to my socks and shoes. I need to go get knocked up and do the dishes.

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[info]rosalita
2008-05-21 12:48 am UTC (link)
How happy am I that I never watched this show beyond the first episode?

Insanely happy.

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(no subject) - [info]qem_chibati, 2008-05-21 01:19 am UTC
F_W: MORE POISONOUS AND INSANE THAN TWOP!!!! FTW!!
[info]ari_o
2008-05-21 01:43 am UTC (link)
I went and looked at the fandom wank thing... Those people are insane. Like REALLY INSANE. I want them medicated and off the street liek noa plzkthnx! They obviously want to bitch at whoever goes there, no matter what they say and can't see the light of day because their heads are permanently lodged up their own assholes.

Don't go back there. It is more insane than and poisonous than TWoP. No really, I'm seriously frightened now, someone hold me.


It's like she looked into our collective soul!

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[info]mcity
2008-05-21 03:48 am UTC (link)
One of the few episodes of SPN I deliberately watch*, and it spawns this.

*I keep meaning to watch the show...

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[info]dragyn
2008-05-21 10:28 am UTC (link)
Oh Em Gee! Someone used a derogatory term in a derogatory manner! Call out the National Guard! Or something! *makes flaily hands*

Oh wait, was I supposed to take that seriously?

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On statistics
[info]trelas
2008-05-21 01:09 pm UTC (link)
In the name of fairness I guess I should mention at the beginning of this comment that I am a male and a fan of the show. I have not seen the third season yet, as it always takes time for the seasons to reach my faraway homeland, but have basic concept of the season, read way too much, and the characters involved. I stumbled on this a few days late, but have read it with some interest.

Now in the post itself the three links to a statistical approacs is used to validate that during the current season Dean Winchester has been misogynistic. As said, I can not truly comment on that as I have not seen the season in question yet. However, after looking over the statistical evidence provided, I could not help but notice that the evidence provided in them is rather flawed. Yet after having skimmed through the majority of the commentary both here and in those posts I have not seen this addressed or even properly brought up. I'm deeply sorry if I missed someone writing of that. The poster of the statistics also does refer to those problems briefly, but to me it felt more dismissive than actually providing discussion on the matter. As it seems I feeling rather over-analytical today as I wondered once again whetever or not I am a sexist, I decided to present the problems I found with the statistics provided. This is not meant to be insulting or dismissive in turn, simply wanted to bring out these problems for discussion, although I realize the majority of it has already passed.

First of all the words chosen for this count. Even the poster admitted that the inclusion of broad is somewhat questionable, but it was through her feeling that it simply popped up that season in use. The problem here is that at no point is the fact addressed that is broad a sexist or even an insulting term. Personally I've never thought of it as such, although I don't use it myself and don't hear it that often. Also, it's never used by one of the two main characters according to that tally. Secondly, the word slut. This I found myself puzzled of, as it is a very damaging, but then I saw the exact quote, which was according to the post a 'slutty little Yoda'. The problem here is that there is a difference between calling someone a slut and calling someone slutty. Both are insults, true, but the content of the insult is different. In almost all the cases I've seen them used, calling someone slutty usually prefers to their choice of clothing or overtly flirty behaviour whereas calling someone a slut implies sexual behaviour. Now the thing is that even slutty is insulting, but this difference between the terms is not addressed in any way in the numerical posts and instead it just jumps to the term slut. This prevents discussion and examination of what was the true insult there and distorts the comment almost purposefully. This is something that should be avoided in cases where one is trying to present numerical proof for their claim, as it leaves a willful distortion to that evidence and thus weakens it by association. Third, the word whore. Here it came slightly odd, as according to that tally it was used twice by secondary characters. Once by a psychopath bad guy and second time a woman called another woman a whore. Apparantely this happened a third time in the same episode. Considering that the main point of this tally is apparantely to present times when the main characters have used deragotary terms used by the brothers, it is questionable why this word is even inclueded here, as they never used it.

Now at this point we go to the bigger problems of the statistics presented. I'm not talking about the lack of neutrality constantly present in the posts, as I did not get the impression that was even attempted, although it does harm the possibility of discussion and the credibility of the results shown.

Continued in the reply. Too large of a post for a comment.

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Bite my fucking crank - [info]ari_o, 2008-05-21 06:10 pm UTC
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Re: On statistics - [info]pyratejenni, 2008-05-21 07:11 pm UTC
Re: On statistics - [info]imp, 2008-05-21 08:24 pm UTC
... - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-05-21 09:36 pm UTC
Re: On statistics - [info]notjo, 2008-05-22 12:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]staroverthebay, 2008-05-22 12:53 am UTC
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Re: On statistics - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-05-22 08:12 am UTC
Re: On statistics - [info]ryuutchi, 2008-05-22 08:22 am UTC
Re: On statistics - [info]funwithrage, 2008-05-22 02:00 pm UTC
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Re: On statistics - [info]hooloovoo_too, 2008-05-22 04:34 pm UTC
Re: On statistics - [info]faultypremise, 2008-05-22 11:55 pm UTC

[info]schmoo999
2008-05-21 04:01 pm UTC (link)
God..wow. Reading this made a boring morning at work fly by. I am in awe of this whole flipping mess.

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[info]imp
2008-05-21 08:07 pm UTC (link)
i don't think dean hates women as much as he just doesn't see much use for them accept for what they can do for him.. sex and food..

HE DOESN'T HATE THEM. HE JUST UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY'RE GOOD FOR NOTHING BUT BEING SEXUAL OBJECTS AND MAKING DINNER. WHICH MEANS HE ISN'T SEXIST.

Ow. And to think I was considering watching this show... Here I was naive enough to think it was just the fangirls supplying the sexism.

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(no subject) - [info]billymasqets, 2008-05-22 06:13 am UTC

[info]rotten_fish
2008-05-21 08:17 pm UTC (link)
Moron.

And you're not trolling FW. You're trolling her. You don't even know what trolling means, for the love of God.

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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2008-05-21 08:32 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pyewacket, 2008-05-21 08:37 pm UTC
Time for a boil order - [info]nam_jai, 2008-05-21 08:45 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2008-05-22 11:28 am UTC
MODS?
[info]ari_o
2008-05-21 08:45 pm UTC (link)
OK, not really trolling the wanker but [info]sheaseth is a member here. Is this a no no or not?

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Re: MODS? - [info]phosfate, 2008-05-21 09:13 pm UTC
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[info]deludedvision
2008-05-22 02:14 am UTC (link)
In a fandom where fans are outraged at the possibility of a strong female lead, it isn't surprising that the misogyny goes unnoticed by most.

It's tragic too. I'd really hoped when the show started that it'd be like a grown-up So Weird. Of course, you know a series needs help when one brother is pegged the star of the show, but its actually the other brother who's actually part of the show's overall plot.

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(no subject) - [info]themadscientist, 2008-05-22 11:15 am UTC
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