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Women Who Hate Dean Hating Women Hating... wait.
Let's see if I can do this properly.

Hiatus in the Supernatural fandom officially started last Friday, and already fans are getting a little stir-crazy.
There have been small-time rumblings from various corners of LJ this season over gender issues and many of these rumblings have involved Dean Winchester, one of the two stars of Supernatural.

There are spoilers about the finale of course.

Let's start things out with a calm-ish post by esorlehcarwherein we learn that she was very upset by the finale:
http://esorlehcar.livejournal.com/581689.html

And a follow-up with links to Why Using Sexist Language is Bad And Like Racism Only Not
http://esorlehcar.livejournal.com/581952.html

But she's not the only one who was upset. lj-user sevenfists was BORED with Dean's death:
http://sevenfists.livejournal.com/182497.html#cutid1

The misogyny is so bad, people might not watch next season they're so upset!
http://butterfly.livejournal.com/1206981.html#cutid2
http://deadbeat-nymph.livejournal.com/15619.html

But fear not SPN fandom, for we have numbers to back up this dramatic turn of events. trollprincess brings in the statistics with Bitchwatch:
http://trollprincess.livejournal.com/1617144.html
http://trollprincess.livejournal.com/1617299.html
http://trollprincess.livejournal.com/1618164.html

All of the above have been fairly calm, all things considered, but the real wank starts pouring in when sazzlette posts a rebuttal called Dean Winchester is a sexist asshole
http://sazzlette.livejournal.com/394683.html
She starts it out with:
Dear all of you whiny, self important females.

Please, for the love of God, shut the fuck up about Dean and his misogyny. I have to say that, to a point, I agree with you. It annoys me that Sam has taken after his brother and started behaving like a jerk. This has never been a part of Sam's character the way it has Dean's, and I think they're taking this whole Sam-becoming-like-Dean thing too far. Sam and Dean generally annoy me this season, in fact, but that's an entirely different kettle of fish.

Uh oh.

esorlehcar, naturally, makes a response:
http://esorlehcar.livejournal.com/582298.html
I always wonder if anyone actually thinks the "shut the fuck up and get out of my fandom if you don't agree with me" posts will actually work.

They don't?
The gauntlet has been thrown down, and now the wank is spreading throughout LJ-land, with many SPN fans posting either "I agree and Dean sucks!"; "I agree and Kripke sucks!"; "I disagree and you suck!' and "I am upset over fandom and wank sucks!"

There's a lesson to be learned here ~~Sam~~ fellow FW'ers: it really is going to be a long summer for SPN fans.

eta: and for added FAIL, the poster of this wank has not figured out auto-formatting. Would anyone be kind enough to link me to the FAQ that deals with LJ-tags? When I try to use the search function I keep running into a page about harassment. Maybe it is a sign?

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Re: MODS?

white_serpent
2008-05-22 12:20 am UTC (link)

In this case, it's kind of murky (well, when the mods comment, I guess it won't be). We generally discourage people going from here to other places to comment when they have no involvement in the issue outside F_W itself. The issue isn't usually someone leaving supportive comments on the wanked post(s), but people lobbing personal attacks against the people who were wanked-- which is something we don't want to encourage. (I mean, imagine if everyone who flamed you here decided to go over and flame you in your journal as well. We don't want that happening.)

In this case, your comment was on F_W, the person involved presumably saw it on F_W (I did do a quick check of her JF friendslist, to see if she might have reasonably seen something in a way not connected to F_W).

The question is, why didn't she respond to you here? If she was going to respond on your journal, why didn't she leave out the mention of JF altogether?

If it were up to me (it isn't), I'd say this probably doesn't constitute trolling, since you weren't in any of the main wanked posts, you know quite well your comment was on JF, and she wasn't attacking you anyway.

(By the way, having seen some of your other posts: of course you may link directly to F_W in your journal. You couldn't post a link in sazzlette's journal to this wank report, however; that's against the rules, and it would be bad form to reply to a random comment on your journal made by sazzlette and say, "Hey, look! You're on Fandom_Wank!")

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	Re: MODS? knightrider 2008-05-22 12:27 am UTC (link)
	The question is, why didn't she respond to you here? If she was going to respond on your journal, why didn't she leave out the mention of JF altogether? At a guess, I'd say probably to avoid being torn to pieces here, but I could be wrong. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: MODS? white_serpent 2008-05-22 01:41 am UTC (link)
	And what a brave supporter she is! Of course, she'll still get torn to pieces here, but the no trolling rule means she won't have it in her inbox. Having your cake and eating it too! Always a popular idea! She could have followed true lurker form, and sent supportive email, which completely avoids the "tearing apart" issue altogether. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: MODS? susannaheanes 2008-05-22 01:36 am UTC (link)
	thank you. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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