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The Other Dubya ([info]misswindy) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-05-28 22:19:00


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Current mood:Shiny
Entry tags:actors, disney, entitlement

Raven-Symone doesn't love me, therefore I am taking my toys and going home!!!1!1!
To some people, Raven-Symone will always be the cute little toddler from The Cosby Show. To others, she'll always be remembered as the psychic comedienne on the Disney Channel hit, That's So Raven, or perhaps the best-known founding member of the girl group, The Cheetah Girls.

To Derrick, an adult man who is the founder and maintainer of the huge, years-old fan site Raven-Symone.org, she is a constant source of disappointment, and he's had enough.

You see, Derrick is extremely butthurt that Raven didn't do more to promote her last album. Blaming Raven personally for the behavior of: her record label, her management, her web designer (seriously), her publicist and even her record-buying audience, Derrick has decided to shut down his site, but not before tl;dr-ing about why Raven sucks.


The time has come for me to personally close the site. We were at the top of our game and I cannot be more happy with the way the site had gone. The members were all so loyal.

However I made the decision to close the site based on this past year. This was supposed to be the best year for Raven professionally and she wasted it!

The movie did great, she promoted I couldn't have been happier, I got to meet her and even though she was very standoffish it completed my goal of wanting to meet her.

The whole album deal just infuriates me! She had a great album and she refused to do anything with it. She ended up selling only 4,400 copies!!!! That is a huge flop.

She did zero promotion and didn't acknowledge it on her OWN official website which showed little to no care for this album which is sad.

What just did it for me was her management team, we were told we would get an interview for the website 4 months ago... then it comes time for it and they decide we don't need it. Cause raven is so busy right? All the promotion we did online for years was nothing but free promotion for them.

I am done supporting someone who just doesn't care about her projects.
I wish all the fans well and as for me, I have finally moved on...

derrick@raven-symone.org


Emphasis mostly mine.

Most of the wank I've seen about this is in friends-only communities, but, between the comments on Perez Hilton ("I'm so glad Derrick decided to do something with his life instead of stalking this girl"/ many variations of "Bitch is NOT MILEY ENOUGH for this kind of diva attitude!") and the posting on ONTD, ("I've heard she's a bitch!"/ "You can't act all high-and-mighty and pretend to take the mature high-road when you've been the maintainer of a fansite for Raven Symone")... I'm confident there's still more than enough wank to go around.



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[info]mad_teacup
2008-05-29 06:22 am UTC (link)
The whole album deal just infuriates me! She had a great album and she refused to do anything with it. She ended up selling only 4,400 copies!!!!

OMG you tell her, man!

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[info]soupspooks
2008-05-29 06:24 am UTC (link)
To some people, Raven-Symone will always be the cute little toddler from The Cosby Show. To others, she'll always be remembered as the psychic comedienne on the Disney Channel hit, That's So Raven, or perhaps the best-known founding member of the girl group, The Cheetah Girls.

To me, she'll always be, to my utter horror, the singer a song with the lyrics "Let me smell your dick".

I will still never get that three minutes of my life back.

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[info]chaimonkey
2008-05-29 06:35 am UTC (link)
I don't know which is more amusing: The fact the fan-site guy is so butthurt, or that people are taking his butthurt seriously.

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(no subject) - [info]randomsome1, 2008-05-29 07:33 am UTC

[info]robintcj
2008-05-29 06:44 am UTC (link)
The thing is, if you go to the web address, that message is there, but you can still go to the gallery part of the site.

My question is, why would an adult male design a site that looks like it was built by a 13-year-old girl destroying a geocities template? Whether it's for a Disney!Star or not -- WHY??

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(no subject) - [info]jar, 2008-05-29 10:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]robintcj, 2008-05-29 03:46 pm UTC
Pardon my earth logic...
[info]alexandraerin
2008-05-29 06:57 am UTC (link)
...but how does he reconcile his belief that's he done a bunch of valuable work promoting Raven-Symone with the idea that her album's failure comes from a lack of promotion?

To put it another way: is he quitting, or did he fire himself for cause?

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lroy
2008-05-29 07:00 am UTC (link)
Hee, the headline on ONTD sorta reads like that of an Onion article.

I also like the Canadian theme I'm getting on Perez's site.

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[info]seca
2008-05-29 07:06 am UTC (link)
I'm getting the feeling that it might be a bit more the fact she didn't become his bestest friend upon meeting him that soured his grapes. But I could just be reading into this much more than I should.

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[info]ari_o
2008-05-29 07:06 am UTC (link)
Well, that is just sad.

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[info]evilsqueakers
2008-05-29 07:08 am UTC (link)
To some people, Raven-Symone will always be the cute little toddler from The Cosby Show.

I guess I'm the only one that remembers her from Zenon. And Fresh Prince.

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[info]tigerlily
2008-05-29 07:15 am UTC (link)
This seems like a good time to ask. There's this ONTD based icon I keep seeing with Raven saying she didn't work with Phylicia Rashad. What on earth is that about?

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[info]caoilainn
2008-05-29 07:32 am UTC (link)
I am happy that I am too old to know her from anything other than the Cosby show. It is just sad that that adorable little girl has inspired this kind of batshit internet insanity. Sheesh Derrick, even if she is not the most wonderful woman ever, step off. Ick.

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[info]acciosnitch
2008-05-29 07:48 am UTC (link)
Aw, I love Raven. I also have never visited a Raven fansite and don't own any of her albums.

IT'S THE FEWTCHA I CAN SEE!

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[info]pokecheck
2008-05-29 07:49 am UTC (link)
If I met a full-grown man who devoted years of his life to making a website about me and my career since I was a rather young child, I think I'd be really frickin' creeped out a little standoffish too.

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[info]demonbean
2008-05-29 07:58 am UTC (link)
I got to meet her and even though she was very standoffish it completed my goal of wanting to meet her.

Yes, but you had already wanted to meet her, and had therefore already met that goal of yours. /snark

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[info]aerobot
2008-05-29 08:17 am UTC (link)
I can't help but boggle at the people who are suprised that she's not very nice in real life. Because, gosh, there's never been an instance of an actress seeming nice on their TV shows but are actually mean and demanding people! Especially since they've been in Hollywood since they were a kid!

For god's sake, I think it's more logical to assume they ARE assholes until you're pleasantly surprised that they're not.

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(no subject) - [info]ariyanaforever, 2008-05-31 04:23 am UTC

[info]brennalarose
2008-05-29 08:49 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure whether to feel sorry that he's all disillusioned and junk or whether to say "cry moar, fanboy."

Then again, I had a similar experience with Loretta Swit, so...

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[info]shaysdays
2008-05-29 08:59 am UTC (link)
This right here is why I read this comm. Because personally, unless Alan Cumming does more nude scenes, I AM NEVER WATCHING TV AGAIN I TELL YOU INNERTUBES.

Damn, The Soup is on. BRB.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2008-05-29 09:28 am UTC (link)
:( Raven, how could you crush the spirit of this creepy creepy man?

She's a monster.

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(no subject) - [info]mer1973, 2008-05-29 02:10 pm UTC

[info]grrliz
2008-05-29 02:24 pm UTC (link)
When I saw this on ONTD, I thought the owner of the site was a fifteen year-old girl. HOW WRONG I WAS.

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(no subject) - [info]reeve, 2008-05-29 04:25 pm UTC

[info]pinkranger
2008-05-29 04:04 pm UTC (link)
She had a great album and she refused to do anything with it. She ended up selling only 4,400 copies!!!! That is a huge flop.

If the album contained this song and video, I can see why she didn't want anyone to hear or see it. Any song that contains such lyrics as "fe fi fo fum" "double diz-utch" and a cameo by Donny Osmond loses some major points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZlehGXpW6I

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[info]reeve
2008-05-29 04:29 pm UTC (link)
Of all the fandoms I never expected to see on F_W, this is definitely one of them.

What's next? Hannah Montana?

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[info]seekay
2008-05-29 06:08 pm UTC (link)
LOL OH DEAR XD

This totally reminds me of the stuff the butthurt Kevin Richardson fansite maintainers posted after he left the Backstreet Boys. Was that ever featured here?

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(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2008-05-30 04:34 am UTC

[info]vzg
2008-05-29 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Who the hell shuts down a fansite because the object of fannish obsession isn't promoting herself enough? Or based on album sales? Seriously, that— that just doesn't make sense to me.

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[info]manny_fish
2008-05-29 08:42 pm UTC (link)
I'm sorry, all I got from this guy was "I'm an attention whore. An old attention whore. Huge attention whore. Because Raven doesn't like me, I'm an attention whore. My opinion, let me show you how much I need attention. I should totally be her publicist if I can't be her friend. PS. A big attention whore is what I am cuz I do free publicity. Leaving now."

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(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2008-05-30 04:43 am UTC

[info]hickorydickory
2008-05-29 10:01 pm UTC (link)
Storytime!

My friend once RPed with Raven. Her character had a magic strip pole.

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