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Thennary Nak ([info]seca) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-07-03 21:14:00


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Entry tags:crazy people, fan rage

K-pop Wars
Hey everyone. Remember back a few months when [info]fandom_wank got it's first good dose of the crazy of the K-pop fangirls? If not the crazy is still here, and still quite frightening to read.

But it looks like there's another great wrong that is pissing off fans of several fan clubs of the Korean boy groups. This is namely a new girl group called SNSD or Girls Generation. Apparently fans don't think the girls of this group, and one in particular, Tiffany, are respectful enough of the boy bands and are 'making fun of' them. Here's a good write up that summarizes things by an angry fan, as everything else are a nice shade of tl:dr.

There are several accounts of the going ons of the 2008 Dream Concert, which was a concert that many of Korea's boy and girl groups performed at to promote national patriotism, ironically enough. The concert was ill-prepared for the crowd size they had, they expected 35,000 and 50,000 fans showed up, which did not help things at all as the concert progressed. There was mass shunning of SNSD as everyone that was not in the SNSD fan club turned their light sticks off (which at an Asian pop concert everybody has) during their performance and then preceded to boo and heckle the group. After that there are several reports of violence between the fan clubs were people claim to have been assaulted and banners made for the artists performing were torn during the concert.

This journal entry has a complete run down of what occurred, but the tl;dr and angry fangirl-ism is a bit daunting. But she gets to invoke Snacky's Law with:

This was done because of SNSD, why? Because these girls ARE rookies, they have NO respect for their sunbaes (seniors) they just jump around like their the popular girls in high school. And seriously, does the movie “mean Girls” not pop up when you think of a reality show in their dorms?

Of course according to her report the SNSD fan club, which seems to made up of mostly guys going by the reported accounts, acted violently against members of other fan clubs and to quote "According to fan accounts, other fan lclub members were beaten up by SNSD fanboys - some had their hair ripped out, raped, stabbed with a knife and had broken legs, and were taken to the hospital."

In another journal someone tries to rationalize that all the fighting between the fan clubs is a way that young people in Korea are releasing their pent up anger and frustration about the current political situation in Korea. And rounds it all out to blame the U.S. for wanting to export beef to Korea. Followed by a tangent about all that's going wrong in the world and ending by saying SNSD fans are just ignorant of how terrible the group is and don't know any better.

There are some blogs from SNSD fans and their take on the whole ordeal. Here is one that just doesn't repost information from every other blog about the incident.

And then there are even some much less unbiased reports about the concert here, here and here.




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[info]zinkchan
2008-07-04 08:29 am UTC (link)
Kpop fandom actually scares me. At least Jrock fandom (especially VK fandom) is crazy in the sense that they think hide was secretly murdered by his girlfriend ala Kurt Cobian and less "I'm going to poison this one girl who looked funnily at my favorite idol".

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[info]caitiedid
2008-07-04 08:37 am UTC (link)
In another journal someone tries to rationalize that all the fighting between the fan clubs is a way that young people in Korea are releasing their pent up anger and frustration about the current political situation in Korea.

...WHAT.

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[info]ereshkigal
2008-07-04 08:46 am UTC (link)
The amount of insanity running around Korea is frightening. This is just the precursor until they start eating brains, isn't it?

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OT -- icon! - [info]taichara, 2008-07-04 04:57 pm UTC

[info]chaimonkey
2008-07-04 08:56 am UTC (link)
This forum post has a nice summary of their "offenses." Sounds to me like they are being a bit rude in a hyper-respectful country, but the reaction of the fan clubs is so overkill it's tons more offensive. :\

Anyone else think Yoonah is adorable? (see video linked in forum post)

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[info]luxshine
2008-07-04 08:56 am UTC (link)
I don't know what was more wtf for me... the whole 'we started a riot because those girls turned off their light sticks' or the part where apparently someone can rape a girl at a concert with no one even trying to stop him.

Makes me miss the old Backstreet Boy vs. Nsync fans fights. At least as far as I know, there was never blood involved on those.

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[info]seraphtrevs
2008-07-04 09:06 am UTC (link)
My sister is moving to Korea on Saturday. I feel the urge to call her now and warn her of the dangers of fan clubs, but I don't know if she'd take me seriously.

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[info]lesbiassparrow
2008-07-04 09:08 am UTC (link)
"Here's a good write up that summarizes things by an angry fan, "

Popseoul hates pretty much everyone in Korean entertainment. How they haven't been lynched by angry Rain fans is one of the mysteries of the universe.

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(no subject) - [info]fuzzybluelogic, 2008-07-04 04:23 pm UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2008-07-04 09:10 am UTC (link)
So, what did the SNSD members say about the other bands? It'd be funny if all they'd said was "Band X is better than band Y" and fans of band Y got their panties in a bunch.

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(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2008-07-04 09:13 am UTC

[info]ari_o
2008-07-04 09:14 am UTC (link)
Crazy kids. GET OFF MY LAWN!

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[info]sorchar
2008-07-04 09:14 am UTC (link)
Snacky's Law - it transcends all cultural and language barriers.

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(no subject) - [info]thespie, 2008-07-04 11:30 pm UTC

[info]tehrin
2008-07-04 09:38 am UTC (link)
The situation was so frightening that Security asked everyone to walk in pairs!
According to fan accounts, other fan lclub members were beaten up by SNSD fanboys - some had their hair ripped out, raped, stabbed with a knife and had broken legs, and were taken to the hospital.


I really hope most of that report was an exaggeration.

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And holy fuck that's a lot of fucks! - [info]tehrin, 2008-07-04 09:49 am UTC
Re: And holy fuck that's a lot of fucks! - [info]coffee_mug, 2008-07-04 10:08 am UTC
Re: And holy fuck that's a lot of fucks! - [info]coffee_mug, 2008-07-04 10:08 am UTC
Re: And holy fuck that's a lot of fucks! - [info]_goblin_, 2008-07-04 11:08 pm UTC

[info]coffee_mug
2008-07-04 09:56 am UTC (link)
Popular music in Korea is scarily srs bizness. And that's pretty sick, but also sickeningly fascinating. I want to do a study of these kpop fanclubs sometime..

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[info]silverwind
2008-07-04 10:18 am UTC (link)
And here I thought more than 1,000 girls petitioning against the new (canceled now) Atobe actor on TeniMyu and joining his anti-communities is crazy.

This makes them look like amateurs.

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[info]nonnyeve
2008-07-04 10:22 am UTC (link)
I don't get it, if the bands they're making fun of don't care, why should the fans?

But then, I don't know a thing about korean musicians, except that one guy "fueded" with Stephan Colbert.

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[info]solesakuma
2008-07-04 10:33 am UTC (link)
Every time I feel crazy for spending hours watching Arashi videos, Kpop fans outcrazy me.
Thank you, Kpop fans, thank you for making me feel normal and well-adjusted.
*emo tear*

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[info]8daze
2008-07-04 10:39 am UTC (link)
There's a lot of batshit crazy in fandom, but I think this is the first one that truly fucking scares me. Over K-pop groups, of all things.

I think perhaps the ridiculousness of the subject directly corresponds to the level of crazy.

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[info]damien
2008-07-04 11:31 am UTC (link)
4. ELF sexual molestation
Actual fan account:
“A friend of mine was taking a long time to comeback from the restroom, so I called her. She picked up the phone and told me that she was in a certain row, naked and crying. She was going to the restroom when a couple guys came up from behind and ripped her clothes and touched her body and took pictures and then left. They looked like high school boys…she says she doesn’t remember anything but that the boys were holding pink balloons.”


I am really, really glad that none of the unbiased links back that story up. It means that I can be confused at the fact my brain associates pink balloons with breast cancer in peace without vicious rage overtaking my mind's tendency to string things together strangely.

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[info]kuromitsu
2008-07-04 11:50 am UTC (link)
The rest of the world has football hooligans, South Korea has KPop hooligans... ha ha ha... *fails at teh funneh*

This is getting more and more absurd and closer to [info]unfunnybusiness material. First time I heard about fans being crazy, I laughed and felt sorry for the performers. Then came the previous wank which was plain scary and sad, and now this...

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[info]blackjackrocket
2008-07-04 11:50 am UTC (link)
I'm surprised no one's said this yet even though he's been mentioned, but I wanted a chance to state the obvious here...


RAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

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[info]lilychan
2008-07-04 11:56 am UTC (link)
Lordy Lord. I was wondering when this was going to get posted. ♥

Oh...don't forget that after the fanclubs "protested" against SNSD, the fanboys got their revenge by tearing up ELF's banners. (I think they also destoryed Cassio's but I could be wrong) I can hunt the YT video for curious parties -- but believe me, they act as though they're being murdered or something.

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[info]miyabi
2008-07-04 12:31 pm UTC (link)
Man, I only read about PopSeoul's article and didn't give it much thought. But damn, I didn't know it was like this. I knew the KPop fans were crazy but... damn.

Also, I think the reason artists don't warned or say anything to fans is because, no matter how much they claim to love their fans, they fear them. They know some fans won't like the fact that their are getting scold, they will go anti on them and then plan to do something harmful. Hell, I have seen fans go anti just because there was a rumor of a member dating someone. :/

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[info]marshall_law
2008-07-04 01:00 pm UTC (link)
I've read about dozens of fandoms on f_w containing varying amounts of batshittery, but I have to say the Kpop fans (both this report and the last) scare me. As in, I can't help thinking they take it as such serious business somebody's going to get killed sooner or later.

It is kind of riveting to follow it, though. (Does that make me a bad person?)

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[info]ilya
2008-07-04 04:24 pm UTC (link)
I love how they're equating the fighting between K-pop fanclubs to Korean politics...

So...umm...I guess any fighting between DBSK's Cassiopeia and Super Junior's E.L.F is kinda like a metaphor for South Korea and North Korea? Like...they're both forced to co-exist, but in the end, there can only really be one major K-pop super boyband/one real Korea.

Wondergirls is WAYYY better than SNSD, anyways. I would take one An Sohee for all those bloody SNSD bitches...Except Sunny...I like Sunny.

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(no subject) - [info]lilychan, 2008-07-04 11:57 pm UTC
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[info]snarkhunter
2008-07-04 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Dear God.

I was going to make some kind of snarky comment about fandom misogyny raising its ugly head again (OMG, GIRLS in MY fandom?--always coming from women, of course)...but I don't feel up to after reading this and the comments.

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[info]isntitironic
2008-07-04 05:13 pm UTC (link)
I'm reminded of the fangirls who'd get all up in arms because Josh Groban and Michael Buble used to make fun of each other as part of their concert sets. There was some serious indignance about this a couple of years ago, including somebody trying to organize a letter-writing campaign. It was about as ridiculous as you might imagine.

Then Josh and Michael did a charity concert together, complete with making fun of each other, and everybody realized they're actually good friends... and the wankers actually shut up and wrote slash instead. Gay porn saves the world once again!

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