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a deep sense of self-satisfaction (snuh) wrote in fandom_wank,
@ 2003-03-22 16:06:00

Entry tags:

mary sues, mary sues don't work that way

When the hell did a great community like marysues turn into wank central? Between the recently wanked Harry Potter is a Sue!, Tolkien's elves are Sues! (Hello? Feanor?) and Quit seeing Sues everywhere! it's quite entertaining.

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	lulinda 2003-03-22 11:34 pm UTC (link)
	Otters! Squee! As for the Mary-Sue community, sounds like they could find a Mary-Sue in everything if they looked hard enough. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	snuh 2003-03-23 12:34 am UTC (link)
	Aren't they adorable? Got it from the iconaddicts community. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sagralisse 2003-03-22 11:47 pm UTC (link)
	They're off a bit. Elves are bloody perfect, but Faramir and Beren are Tolkien's Mary Sues. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	zanarkand 2003-03-22 11:56 pm UTC (link)
	Which is why I preferred Jackson's Faramir to Tolkien's. It had absolutely nothing to do with David Wenham. Really. (Reply to this)(Parent)

hugsnkisses
2003-03-22 11:55 pm UTC (link)

heh. The remind me of DL with their: No! They're everywhere, and they're out to get us!

Frankly I'm suprised at the time it took for them to work out that yes, many main characters do show signs of being Mary Sues, that's why they're main characters in best selling books, not reports for parliament.

The real trouble with elves is that there are 3 types of them. Not in the sense of the dark elves, the Vanyarin elves etc. but the books. The elves in Lotr are quite different from the elves in The Silmarillian and those elves are so different from the ones in The Hobbit that if they weren't both written by the same guy you'd never know they were the same thing.

I used to dislike the elves for their flat, one dimensional, perfect characters until I read TS and Unfinished Tales. Now I love them, because they have flaws. An aspect which on the whole is sadly lacking in Lotr. (Although it has it's moments.)

Ah! This has gotten to serious, meta wank! *jams a tinfoil hat on her head* ELFES ADN HARRY POOTER R VRERY HAWT!!!!1111

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	zanarkand 2003-03-23 12:07 am UTC (link)
	BuT Haary Pott3r iz a MARY SUE!!!11 >:O!! And all hiz fanz r plagaristz!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lulinda 2003-03-23 12:08 am UTC (link)
	f34n0R roxX0rZ mY s0Xx0rz!!111!!!!!!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	backfromspace 2003-03-22 11:55 pm UTC (link)
	After the three thousandth rendition of "I'm writing a novel, can you tell me if my characters are Mary Sues?", I simply defriended them. And to think, once they were snarky and amusing. snif for the good old days (Reply to this)(Thread)

	snuh 2003-03-23 12:10 am UTC (link)
	I blame myself. I used to post a snarky review almost every day. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kyuuketsukirui 2003-03-23 12:15 am UTC (link)
	I defriended, too, but one of the last things I read on there was a post by a girl asking if her fic about herself and Orlando Bloom was a Mary Sue fic. And then people answered and said it wasn't. Grace (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	renjenri 2003-03-23 12:33 am UTC (link)
	... Tell me you're joking. I beg of you. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

kyuuketsukirui, 2003-03-23 12:53 am UTC

renjenri, 2003-03-23 12:55 am UTC

parlance, 2003-03-23 05:47 am UTC

kyuuketsukirui, 2003-03-23 09:06 am UTC

(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2003-03-23 12:50 pm UTC

backfromspace, 2003-03-23 10:00 pm UTC

	snuh 2003-03-23 12:42 am UTC (link)
	I haven't defriended, but I skim. I must have missed that one. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

kyuuketsukirui, 2003-03-23 12:52 am UTC

snuh, 2003-03-23 12:55 am UTC

serpentis, 2003-03-23 01:53 am UTC

	kannaophelia 2003-03-23 03:30 am UTC (link)
	Eee! I missed that... I always skip those posts. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

kyuuketsukirui, 2003-03-23 04:05 am UTC

oxydosic, 2003-03-23 03:11 pm UTC

mirabellawotr
2003-03-23 12:46 am UTC (link)

After the three thousandth rendition of "I'm writing a novel, can you tell me if my characters are Mary Sues?", I simply defriended them.

I think I may too. Between that and the "Oh, look, here's my Mary Sue that I wrote in sixth grade, I'm really only posting it here to mock and have no ulterior ego-stroking motives AT ALL" posts, there don't seem to be many actual Mary Sues left.

And I know damn well they haven't wanked them all, because the LotR fandom alone could keep a group like that busy until the Last Trump.

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singe, 2003-03-23 02:03 am UTC

mirabellawotr, 2003-03-23 03:31 am UTC

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singe, 2003-03-23 04:19 am UTC

cesare, 2003-03-23 02:51 am UTC

sorchar, 2003-03-23 03:12 am UTC

nevadafighter, 2003-03-23 05:17 am UTC

chaya, 2003-03-23 05:59 am UTC

cesare, 2003-03-23 08:24 am UTC

renjenri, 2003-03-23 09:01 am UTC

chaya, 2003-03-23 05:41 pm UTC

hugsnkisses, 2003-03-23 01:29 pm UTC

chaya, 2003-03-24 05:19 am UTC

kannaophelia, 2003-03-23 03:33 am UTC

RPF Mary Sues... -

purplepopple, 2003-03-24 03:18 pm UTC

	singe 2003-03-23 02:08 am UTC (link)
	What drove me away were all the postings about obscure fandoms. Attack of the Bug-Eyed Anime Clones From Hell got really old. Or I'm really old and out of touch, whichever. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

kannaophelia, 2003-03-23 03:27 am UTC

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singe, 2003-03-23 03:59 am UTC

	sorchar 2003-03-23 03:10 am UTC (link)
	Indeed - I did that this morning, having gotten tired of that. I can make fun of Mary Sues on my own much better, without all the distractions. G (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sagralisse 2003-03-23 12:20 am UTC (link)
	After actually skimming the thread, I have this sudden urge to beat them senseless with my copy of Tolkien's letters. (Reply to this)

	The Mary Sue Society Theme Song redhead 2003-03-23 12:41 am UTC (link)
	The world looks mighty good to me 'Cause Mary Sues are all I see Whatever it is I think I see Becomes a Mary Sue to me! -Inspired by Tootsie Rolls (Reply to this)(Thread)

Ode for Mary Sue

backfromspace
2003-03-23 01:05 am UTC (link)

I've got hair the color of burnished gold
Both my parents died before I was very old
I wear perfect makeup at all times of the day
Everyone always agrees to do things my way

Rules don't apply to me
Try to hit me and then you'll see
Bad guys can't seem to resist my allure
I'll seduce you all, of that I'm sure.

Got a pair of good-looking guys?
I'll hook 'em up just to give my reviews a rise.
I'm so good looking not only can I make them gay
But I can do the nasty with 'em the hetero way

My eyes are green like a sparkling sapphires
Everyone I see always admires
On top of that they're bewitching too,
I can beat the bad guys without even using my kund fu!

You got a problem, hey, I'm there
Canon and casual readers beware
Sex an' romance and lots of squick
If you ain't attractive you ain't in my fic.

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Re: Ode for Mary Sue - allen, 2003-03-23 01:15 am UTC

Re: Ode for Mary Sue -

hugsnkisses, 2003-03-23 01:31 pm UTC

	nita 2003-03-23 01:18 am UTC (link)
	I see Mary Sues. Everywhere. Some of them don't even know they're Mary Sues. (Reply to this)

	kannaophelia 2003-03-23 03:29 am UTC (link)
	It's become a matter of skimming through all the vanity posts to find the snark, yes. But it's still worth it for the occaisional beautiful snark. We just need to work harder, and drown out all the RPG posts and lectures on characeterisation. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2003-03-24 02:09 am UTC (link)
	I miss the snark. I mean, I joined for the snark. WHERE HAS ALL THE SNARK GONE? I need to dump my poor self into Utena fanfiction or something, because there HAVE to be some doozies of Utena Sues. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sorchar 2003-03-23 05:14 am UTC (link)
	You gotta admit, though, they had a point about Ayla. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	lulinda 2003-03-23 09:17 am UTC (link)
	Well, all Ayla has done is create just about everyfuckingthing while having hot!sex with Jondalar. Are you sure she's as much of a Mary (Gary) Stu as Feanor? He's an Elf, ya know. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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sorchar, 2003-03-23 10:05 am UTC

lulinda, 2003-03-23 10:50 am UTC

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sorchar, 2003-03-23 10:57 am UTC

lulinda, 2003-03-23 11:05 am UTC

backfromspace, 2003-03-23 11:10 am UTC

	(Anonymous) 2003-03-23 06:18 pm UTC (link)
	Dude. I got linked. ^_^ - Ironychan (Reply to this)

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