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Full o' Doom ([info]doomsday) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-07-16 14:56:00


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Current mood:spoilerphobic
Entry tags:comics, conspiracy theories, entitlement, fan rage, movie wank, my pretension let me show you it, not good with criticism, reviews, serious business, someone is wrong on the internet!, taking it too seriously, writers are often pompous douches

Why so wanky?
Fanboys are out in force on Rotten Tomatoes. There are six bad reviews of The Dark Knight posted, and each one has hundreds of comments, mostly consisting of "**** YOU, YOU PRETENTIOUS DOUCHE! I HATE NEW YORKERS!" Four (or five—I'm too lazy to check) of the six reviews are from NY, you see. Here are the posted blurbs from reviews:

"The Dark Knight is noisy, jumbled, and sadistic." 194 comments

"This movie is too in love with itself to make you love it." 334 comments

"This movie is grim and jammed together. The narrative isn't shaped coherently to bring out contrasts and build toward a satisfying climax. The Dark Knight is constant climax; it's always in a frenzy, and it goes on forever." 535 comments WARNING: alleged spoilers in the review.

"Visually impressive, but any hack can do a halfway decent job with trailer-ready tangents. Not everyone can push the genre forward, and the fact that Nolan's padded popcorn flick isn't the streamlined masterpiece it could have been is a real buzzkill." 200 comments

"Plodding, puffed-up kitsch mistaking itself for profound psycho noir that the source material won't support." 122 comments WARNING: alleged spoilers in the review.

"The generation of consumers who swallow this pessimistic sentiment can’t see past the product to its debased morality. Instead, their excitement about The Dark Knight’s dread (that teenage thrall with subversion) inspires their fealty to product." 201 comments

Everyone's a jerk! Yay!




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tree
2008-07-17 02:02 am UTC (link)
I was afraid to click on the comments there (fear of splooge, not spoilers), but now I'm intrigued...

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[info]anarchicq
2008-07-17 02:03 am UTC (link)
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I'm not listening. Not until I see it myself.

PS: Heath Ledger is dead LOL.

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[info]demonbean
2008-07-17 02:09 am UTC (link)
Again, with the people that don't know Batman. The movie is serious because the comic was serious. Batman is a serious figure.

Batman is srs biznus!

He r srs Batman. This r srs movie.

You don't know the history of Batman like I do!

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[info]jujubee
2008-07-17 02:15 am UTC (link)
Four of the six reviews are from NY, you see.

My friends keep telling me it's 5/6. I'm not sure why this is significant, but they KEEP TELLING ME! It's rather annoying.

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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2008-07-17 03:54 am UTC

[info]lindentreeisle
2008-07-17 02:19 am UTC (link)
ZOMG PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET DON'T LIKE THE SAME THINGS I DO! MUST...STOP THEM!

I'm amazed some of these folks manage to butter their toast in the mornings, much less operate their keyboards.


U KNO WATS NOISY JUMBLED AND SADISTIC YOUR GOD DAM FACE THATS WAT NOISY JUMBLES AND SADISTIC IS DAVID EDELSTEIN


Oh wait...I guess they can't do that either. ;)

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(no subject) - [info]_goblin_, 2008-07-20 05:23 am UTC

[info]the__ivorytower
2008-07-17 02:19 am UTC (link)
The last movie people wanked all over I wanted to see, and I want to see this one too! Hurrays!

(This r srs Batman)

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[info]_morrigan_
2008-07-17 02:37 am UTC (link)
As a film geek, I have to say - Armond White can be kinda a pretentious douche. I half suspect he gave the film a bad review just to be contrary, like he almost always is with "popular" films and/or "new school" directors (like Nolan).

That said - oh fanyboys? You don't need film critic approval to feel the movie (and by extension you) are important. Go. See. Enjoy. Or not. Whatev'.

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[info]altoidsaddict
2008-07-17 02:40 am UTC (link)
I saw Dark Knight last night and these people are WRONG WRONG WRONG

I was dragged to it really, not a fan of superhero comic geek jerk-off movies (note: graphic novels nerd here so I have nothing against comics), dislike action movies generally, never see anything too hyped, and the last Christian Bale movie I saw was Empire of the Sun. I mean, the last Batman movie I saw had Chris O'Donnell and Jim Carrey in it, so I'm hardly to blame. That thing was an atrocity.

That said, Dark Knight and everyone in it and especially Heath Ledger was awesome from the first frame to the last. It may well be impossible for an actor to turn in a performance like that without utterly annihilating himself. There wasn't a part of that movie that I didn't thoroughly love.

I mean, holy crap.

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[info]eleutheria
2008-07-17 03:05 am UTC (link)
I just want to see someone wank about the stupid MSPainted "Y SO SRS" icons.

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[info]seraphtrevs
2008-07-17 03:07 am UTC (link)
The generation of consumers who swallow this pessimistic sentiment can’t see past the product to its debased morality. Instead, their excitement about The Dark Knight’s dread (that teenage thrall with subversion) inspires their fealty to product.

Kids today, with their loud rock music and long hair and fealty to swallowed pessimistic sentiments!

Seriously, that is one of the most obnoxious movie reviews I've ever read, since it's just one long, pretentious baaaaaaaawww about the Declining Morals of Today's Youth. It's a Batman movie, dude - shake your cane elsewhere.

Also, he think Memento and There Will Be Blood sucked, but The Black Dahlia is "a genuinely, politically serious crime-fighter movie." LOL

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[info]akatsuki_ame
2008-07-17 03:18 am UTC (link)
Is it too much of an earth logic thing to realize that not everyone will like The Dark Knight? I'd still see it anyway. Besides, as long as they weren't typing "HEATH LEDGER SUCKS AS THE JOKER" I wouldn't think it was worth getting steamed over (because that's just asking for mobbing, really).

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(no subject) - [info]seca, 2008-07-17 04:56 am UTC

[info]phosfate
2008-07-17 03:22 am UTC (link)
You know what the real problem with the Batman movies is? There just aren't enough action figures.

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[info]drakyndra
2008-07-17 03:28 am UTC (link)
As much as much as I, well, completely and utterly disagree with these reviews (I saw the movie last night. It's not perfect, but the flaws are fairly minor), I have to say I want to hit people for acting like stereotypical hypersensitive fans.

The last review, bitching about people who liked it is very petty, though.

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Spoiler in here - [info]isntitironic, 2008-07-20 05:20 pm UTC

[info]masterofmidgets
2008-07-17 03:51 am UTC (link)
On the one hand: I don't care if people think a movie I like sucks. Everyone has different tastes, yadda yadda, no movie can appeal to everyone, especially a genre movie like Batman, and that's perectly ok!

On the other hand: Wow that Armond White review was pretentious tripe. Why on earth would you complain that a /Batman movie/ of all things doesn't have enough fluffy kittens and rainbows? This is not a new trend in the Batman franchise! But god forbid the popular conception of Batman change in the last twenty years...

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2008-07-17 04:08 am UTC (link)
*reads Armond White's review*

See, this is exactly the kind of guy who makes film critics look bad.

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[info]utahraptor
2008-07-17 04:17 am UTC (link)
kitsch

I'm not interested in seeing the film (not a superhero fan) but whenever a critic uses this word in their negative review, I stop reading it right there.

Also, lol @ butthurt fanboys. Holy overreaction, Batman.

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[info]platedlizard
2008-07-17 04:27 am UTC (link)
You can rent this now on iTunes.

I find that fact interesting.

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[info]mcity
2008-07-17 04:41 am UTC (link)
I remember one blog pointing out that game reviewers will occasionally get flamed for less-than-perfect reviews before the game in question has even been released to the public.

And I thought that was bad.

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[info]isntitironic
2008-07-17 06:05 am UTC (link)
All I care is that damn, Heath Ledger rocks and Aaron Eckhardt is fine.

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[info]ruffwriter
2008-07-17 06:07 am UTC (link)
Rotten Tomatoes was pretty insane when Wall-E came out, too. Though that was because one negative reviewer deleted and reposted his review about five times to get rid of all the comments and bump it up the page...

Staying away from the comments here for fear of spoilers, but I did see an amusing mini-wank with people protesting over this reviewer calling the relationship between Bruce and Harvey a "bromance." And now I can't find it!

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[info]singe
2008-07-17 06:13 am UTC (link)
I would kill for some Batman icons featuring Sergio Aragones's spoofs right now. Batman scribbling "Superman is Clark K..." on a wall or getting his cape stuck in the toilet.

Things like that.

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(no subject) - [info]vroom, 2008-07-17 11:28 am UTC

[info]luthe
2008-07-17 08:06 am UTC (link)
I went to a panel last night with Chris Nolan and Christian Bale and HOLY SHIT this movie is going to be awesome. I ignore all notions to the contrary.

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[info]lilpocketnin
2008-07-17 08:11 am UTC (link)
I have a pint of chunky monkey and there is new Batman-flavored wank. I am a happy, happy fangirl.

...now why aren't any of my Robin icons uploaded over here?

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[info]drakyndra
2008-07-17 10:52 am UTC (link)
Speaking of The Dark Knight at the crazy hype it's getting, this YouTube video had me crying with laughter.

(Note: There are no actual spoilers in this video)

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I am now shaking with laughter. - [info]50ft_queenie, 2008-07-17 09:26 pm UTC
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[info]lilindrome
2008-07-17 11:58 am UTC (link)
Oh Lord. The fanboys went on the same kind of rampage over 300.

The first bad review on Rotten Tomatoes for the movie 300? Was posted by a woman from San Francisco. The splooge dripped off the *screen* when you clicked on that review.

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