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Damien Raptore ([info]damien) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-08-17 22:24:00


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Entry tags:conspiracy theories, doesn't mean what you think it means, entitlement, fan theories, fandom_wank's thoughts on yaoi, fanfic, homophobia, i know it because of my learnings, i'm just here for the recipes, ianto is crying, icky girls, in the closet, isn't it awfully nice to have a penis, mary sues don't work that way, my pretension let me show you it, oh wait you fail, omg mock people mock, onoez bjr'd again, sexism, slash, slash is the specialest snowflake, stop sharing your thoughts, wankers who will not shut up, writers are often pompous douches

Fanfic & Slash: You're Doing It Wrong!
Spinning Spinsters decides to write an essay about how fan culture is highly conservative, and bolsters and propagates male supremacist ideas.

People in the comments seem to agree with her and thank her for having opened their eyes to how they're really just serving The Man by writing about guys getting on it.

But wait! Is such blanket approval natural? Not in the least.

As soon as she starts getting disagreements that are pro-slash, she deletes them on the grounds that such defenses can be found anywhere. She also refuses to link to any examples because it'd be unhelpful/too much work, and characterizes most femmeslash stories as being like lesbian pornography.

For bonus points, she apparently also has the power to edit comments if they talk about women in unacceptable ways. Though it's okay to say that on House, 'the women on that show are so lousy, either shrews or sex objects or both', so I'm curious as to what she doesn't find acceptable.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to serve The Man.




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[info]waltraute
2008-08-18 02:30 am UTC (link)
Isn't this old/hasn't this been posted before? It seems familiar, if still batshit.

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[info]phosfate
2008-08-18 02:31 am UTC (link)
IT'S A COOKBOOK!

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(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2008-08-18 02:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pipssister, 2008-08-18 03:03 am UTC
I have a recipe... - [info]kelmendi, 2008-08-18 03:22 am UTC
Re: I have a recipe... - [info]_goblin_, 2008-08-18 06:05 pm UTC
... - [info]kelmendi, 2008-08-19 01:12 am UTC
... - [info]_goblin_, 2008-08-19 01:36 am UTC
... - [info]dragonfangirl, 2008-08-19 06:40 pm UTC
Infotainment - [info]mrs260, 2008-08-18 07:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pfeffermuse, 2008-08-20 02:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]arionhunter, 2008-08-18 04:43 am UTC
beef coconut curry - [info]aristaea, 2008-08-18 06:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]isntitironic, 2008-08-18 06:56 am UTC

[info]tehluggage
2008-08-18 02:35 am UTC (link)
Obviously she doesn't believe in bisexuals either. ...And fandom is conservative? Now I am very, very curious as to which fandoms she's actually been in over the years.

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(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2008-08-18 02:43 am UTC
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[info]skeleton_key
2008-08-18 02:41 am UTC (link)
But but but I LIKE LESBIAN PORN. You know, the GOOD kind.

Srs: She's an idiot! :D I write and read slash because it's hot. I write and read femmeslash because it's hot. Occasionally I read het because it's hot. Can't I have all of these?

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(no subject) - [info]suzycat, 2008-08-18 03:41 am UTC
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[info]brennalarose
2008-08-18 02:45 am UTC (link)
The best part about this wank report? I discover this the same night as Katy Perry's "I Kissed A Girl".

Can we staple this woman's hands to her ass until she learns to be less of a bitch about her opinions?

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[info]mistal
2008-08-18 02:52 am UTC (link)
...and sometimes claiming to be ‘for gay rights’ (whatever that means) ...

Quick! I need an "Dictionary of the Crazy Language" to know what "gay rights" could possibly mean other than, well, gay rights.

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(no subject) - [info]wickedlester, 2008-08-18 10:08 pm UTC

[info]purple_sammich
2008-08-18 02:56 am UTC (link)
But serving The Man gets me through the day! D:

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[info]risha
2008-08-18 03:05 am UTC (link)
Sorry, my brain screeched to a halt at "fan culture is highly conservative" and failed to absorb the rest of the report.

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[info]blue_penguin
2008-08-18 03:24 am UTC (link)
Furthermore, the same-sex male relationships portrayed in most slash stories have a use-by date: sooner or later most of the characters ‘turn’ heterosexual and get married [...]

WTF has she been reading? Well, okay, a lot of slashfics do seem to feature the guys getting married... to each other. But I think the average slashfic writer would react with horror rather than approval to the idea of ending a fic by splitting the characters up and having them marry women. They certainly hate it enough when it happens in canon.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2008-08-18 03:31 am UTC (link)
The idea of femmeslash being written exclusively by and for men is one I keep banging into over and over again, and it's annoying.

No, I am not secretly a guy posing as a woman. No, I am not writing - say, Tifa and Aerith or Rinoa and Quistis getting snuggly because I am a Big Giant Deviant Whoreslut who is just doing it to get approval from the boys' club anyway; I'm writing it because I think it's cute. Or hot. Or fun.

If the idea of a woman LIKING her own bits, and the bits of other women, bothers you so very effing much - there is a back button. USE IT. And why did you click on my gorram link knowing full well what my pairing was anyhow?

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[info]knightrider
2008-08-18 03:33 am UTC (link)
I wanted to get into the wank, but that initial post is WAY too much teal deer.

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[info]lady_jafaria
2008-08-18 03:38 am UTC (link)
"Fandom hates female characters" is one of those things I've seen more complaints about than I've seen happen. Seems like there's some loony screeching it every time their own favorite female character is disliked by someone who doesn't show evidence of sexism at all, only of, well, not liking one woman.

Maybe I'm just in the wrong fandoms, but I've seen just as much love for female characters as for male characters, even when the male characters are often slashed. Do I think there are issues of sexism in fandom? Sure. There are issues of sexism everywhere. Do I think this person is talking about them in anything approaching a sane manner? No. I assume people have a legitimate reason for disliking a character before I assume they're only doing it on the basis of the character's naughty bits.

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