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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2008-09-16 11:56:00


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Entry tags:charity, dan fogelberg's llamas, fan rage, high school girls, illegality, let's all get along, lip gloss, lurk moar, lying liar that lies, plucky girl detective, raised by hyenas, tv

A different flavor of vampire wank
What follows is an account written by swsa, a friend without a JF account, and it is such a classic take-the-money-and-run story that I present it to you unaltered (well, okay, I threw in some links).

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In Moonlight fandom, their high priestess of campaigning is named Leeser. Leeser's status in the fandom grew and grew as she organized fan cons, did the leg work for their Variety ad, etc. She is absolutely beloved and a hero of their cause. Which is why another fan apparently felt secure enough to give her $11000 in order to pay for bus ads to run in L.A. This was all back in July. Since then, it's been one delay after another, and the fans were getting pretty pissy about not being given answers as to why ads that should've gone up in August, still weren't up in September.

So, finally the anonymous donor speaks up, with a tale of lost money, printers who were never contacted, and who then finally WERE paid, but only a fraction of what Leeser had told the donor it would cost, while thus far, the actual ad people haven't been paid at all...so basically, it all adds up to Leeser walking off with $10,075.

Now in comparison to scamming for lip gloss or ipods, it's pretty impressive. But what really makes this wank special is that Moonlight fandom is seriously like the most naive and trusting fandom EVER. Before Leeser has said even a word to explain herself, there are posters AGHAST that some are judging her!

QUOTE: I'm sure Lees will step forward and post something as soon as she's able, but that's not going to happen any sooner if the mood of the forums becomes increasingly hostile against her.

QUOTE: Simple way you should know she's not BSing... She uses her -REAL- name guys. And heck, it's not even a real large amount. $10,000... What is that? 5~ months rent in California?

Eventually, Leeser steps forward, and to the surprise of...not a single one of us who's ever been in fandom...THE MONEY WAS STOLEN. When a few people have the nerve to find this a bit doubtful, they're put on blast.

QUOTE: Wow...what a vicious pack this group has become...

What? You want a copy of the police report? How about having Leeser scan and post her new drivers license so you can confirm the date? Maybe she should provide three notarized statements to prove the theft?

Geez, get a grip.

QUOTE: do you know notice how it's always the same vicious pack of nay-sayers that like to cause the all of the dissention and doubt it seems to me they seem to get their jollies by trying to cause trouble & destroy our community because it's apparent to me they obviously have nothing better to do with their time.

There is even more in that thread about Leeser's daughter feeling suicidal because of her mother's fandom involvement, and a whole lot of "I can't believe you're making a fuss over this when people have lost everything in Hurricane Ike!" posts, and even a number of posts from sane people who realize they've all been conned. But overall, it's the most amazingly naive wank I've ever seen. It's kind of like getting in a time machine and going back to 1991 when people could still be shocked by online people lying.

QUOTE: One question. WHEN the bus ads appear am I going to see well needed apologies to Lees?

*head desk*

~*~*~*~


ETA: Bonus crazy: "I've been thinking about getting my teeth ground down and elongated." And that's from the star of the show.

ETA 2: Leeser returns!

ETA 3: More wank.

ETA 4: Now the thread's locked; wank has moved to the main Bus Ads thread.

(Sorry to fall behind, my power's been going on and off. Please send lipgloss, vanilla glitter is my favorite.)

ETA 5: Update! "Although Leeser did send the forms today, the funds cannot be verified until Monday. The donor also posted some messages back and forth where she's trying to get a direct explanation and getting only the run-around. Finally, she lays a mega smack-down on Leeser."

ETA 6: A new Leeser-bashing thread at the Blue Whale Pub; mod resignations.

(Why do I always end up posting wanks with multiple updates?)

ETA ∞: I was waiting to update until the supposed Leeser-vindicating deadline this afternoon, but it looks like... I don't even know what. So:

The donor updates:
The ad agency has stated they cannot confirm whether the funds are available or not. The New York office is placing at least a 3-5 day hold on Lesser's account in order to verify funding with the bank, however it may be longer. They are now hoping to be able to post this account on Friday. The ads have arrived and are waiting in the warehouse. Lesser is aware of this. I am so angry at this moment I dare not say too much more. One thing I must say though is to Lesser: Shame on you! To put me through this is one of the most unconscionable deeds I have experienced in my life.

Also: Homophobia on Leeser's board? Convention money shenanigans? Sockpuppetry? (Note: the Blue Whale Pub board seems to be down at the moment.)

ETA ∞ +1: And now about $8K in convention funds cannot be accounted for. (More.) Yes, we are pretty sure this is not VB on the rampage again.

ETA ∞ +2: I think [info]dhaunea called this one...

ETA ∞ +3:: The ads are going up on Monday?

ETA 9/29/08: Y'all, please somebody take this over and do a new entry or something. I can't keep up with all the board shenanigans now.


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[info]annepackrat
2008-09-21 03:54 am UTC (link)
Someone over at the Blue Whale Pub thread talks about homophobia she says she suffered in the bowels of Leesor's board.

Hehe, I love this wank, it keeps on giving.

Oh, and about the main donator: Apparently she had a personal reason for donating the money and wanting to see the bus ads run, in memory of late husband I believe.

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[info]kerryblaze
2008-09-21 10:08 am UTC (link)
Oh and it sounds like there is a question as to money related to the Con as well.

This is the wank that is just spiraling into all sorts of issues.

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[info]annepackrat
2008-09-21 05:52 pm UTC (link)
I mean its sad seeing all these fans be so disillusioned, but I do like seeing someone like Leesor get their comeuppance.

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[info]faultypremise
2008-09-22 07:01 am UTC (link)
Tomorrow is D-Day too, when they find out if the money actually was paid or not. I'll be watching it with a bucket of popcorn.

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Can it be known yet?
tree
2008-09-22 01:11 pm UTC (link)
I'm dying with curiosity here. :/

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[info]kerryblaze
2008-09-22 08:34 pm UTC (link)
What's sad is the "she's my friend AND you stick by your friends" camp. Sorry. I don't want to be friends with someone who lies, connives, and uses other people for their own profit. And it is sad, because in this huge global environment, which is the internet, you can go out and find good, moral people to be friends with.

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[info]abharding
2008-09-22 10:45 pm UTC (link)
Wait, are some people supporting her even if they think she is guilty? Are they going "I don't care if she lied, stole and cheated someone out of her money, she is my friend and I am going to stick by her" or is "She's my friend and therefore I don't think she is guilty because I wouldn't be friends with someone who lies, cheats and steals"

Because if it is the former, watch out because sooner or later she is going to turn on you - if it is the later, then wake up. Also - don't feel so bad. Someone took advantage of your trusting nature. Take this a learning experience and be wary of the next time that someone tries something like this.

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[info]kerryblaze
2008-09-22 10:50 pm UTC (link)
I've read a few that have mentioned "she made a mistake and I'm going to stick by her" type posts. They aren't admitting any wrong-doing on her part, but they aren't saying she's innocent anymore. There are only one or two, but they're there.

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[info]abharding
2008-09-22 11:28 pm UTC (link)
A mistake?? Is that what we are calling it now?

OK, I know we have seen this sort of thing in the past - but this is the sort of mistake can wind up on your record and maybe even in jail if you do it often enough.

The only ones who made mistakes were those who trusted this woman in the first place. And they don't have to apologize to the fandom at large for being gullible.

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[info]emiweebee
2008-09-23 07:57 pm UTC (link)
This sort of thing happens almost every time a scame like this comes out. First, the evidence is all made up by people who hate the scammer. Then, it doesn't matter, because they are my friend and I loff them, despite the evidence.

Sadly, there are very few people who see the evidence of a scam and think, "Wow, that's crazy, and they could be doing it to me." At least, it doesn't happen with pseuicides; it might be less common in monetary scams, but I doubt it.

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[info]annabelle_lee
2008-09-22 07:48 pm UTC (link)
Some further insight into the homophobia thing can be found here as well.

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[info]annepackrat
2008-09-29 06:22 am UTC (link)
Why is Elysia Hughes getting onto the rum...?

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[info]annabelle_lee
2008-09-29 06:32 am UTC (link)
I wish I had a long, fascinating story behind the icon to tell you, but I don't. I just wanted to make an icon during the whole "But why is the rum gone" fad after Pirates of the Carribean and Elysia's expression was perfect for it.

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[info]annepackrat
2008-09-29 06:38 am UTC (link)
You're just giving me bad crack fic ideas that will result in Havoc and the others squaring off with a very angry Hughes.... XP

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[info]annabelle_lee
2008-09-29 07:44 am UTC (link)
Doooo eeeeettt. Pissy Poppa!Hughes is always the good kind of crack.

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[info]annepackrat
2008-09-29 09:03 am UTC (link)
Like I don't have enough crackfics on my plate at the moment. Here, have this instead:


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