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ari_o ([info]ari_o) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-01-30 20:40:00


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Current mood:tag raped
Entry tags:fandom: twilight

Moonlight Crapfest '09
I got an email from the nice people over at the Blue Whale Pub, pointing me toward new drama. (The OT forum is locked to members only at BWP, but that is not where the wank is--just 27 pages boggling at it.)

But [info]rijane has a nice post about it here.

To sum up: The mods from MoonlightLine.com who all resigned when Sleezer started to smell bad--jumped to their new site MoonlightForever.com--which is now VampLoverForever.com. D: When they changed the name they also made it a site for Twilight/Moonlight/Trueblood, which apparently happened with zero warning to users.

-[info]rijane:
"All hell broke loose. Despite the mod assertions, no one wanted to be part of the even-crazier Twilight fandom and the vomitous True Blood fandom. The complaints raged. The bitching raged. The stories from the mods were confused at best - at first it was because Leeser backordered the domain, then the change was because the fans asked for it, then they wanted to attract more fans, then it was because it was their damned web site and they'd do as they pleased.

In a tangential issue regarding the overly restrictive placement of slash in the fic area and intrusive age restrictions on fic, I flounced from the site and didn't post again. Until Friday night."

God, just go read her whole post. If anyone has screencaps of the Gina's freakout, please share.

eta: [info]rijane to the rescue with caps of mod hissy fit.

eta2: Why has this been tagged grudgewankeverything? O_o I'm not in their fandom.

eta3: bonus Twihard wank from comments. Since this post is tagged everything and the kitchen sink. D:




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[info]jkefka
2009-01-31 05:17 am UTC (link)
Oh no, no no no, please not this again. I mean, it's not the same thing, thank buddha, but any mention of this fandom makes me start twitching.

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Re: I'll bring the Starbucks! - [info]ari_o, 2009-01-31 06:46 am UTC
I'll bring the Starbucks! - [info]justjenn, 2009-01-31 06:16 am UTC
Re: I'll bring the Starbucks! - [info]ari_o, 2009-01-31 06:47 am UTC
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[info]deliciouschaos
2009-01-31 05:44 am UTC (link)
Oh god whyyyyyy.

Also, your link to [info]rijane's explanation has an extra " in it.

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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-01-31 06:43 am UTC
Bad Link!
[info]mer1973
2009-01-31 06:02 am UTC (link)
The first link to Rijane's gives me this:

This page is not here
like plum blossoms in the wind
existence is fake


Which I have shared because I love LJ's 404 pages. Sadly, I did not manage to grab the LOLCat 404, because apparently I fail at CRTL-C. This cause me much sadness

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Re: Bad Link! - [info]platedlizard, 2009-01-31 06:25 am UTC
Re: Bad Link! - [info]dreamcatcher, 2009-01-31 06:32 am UTC
Re: Bad Link! - [info]ari_o, 2009-01-31 06:37 am UTC
Re: Bad Link! - [info]ari_o, 2009-01-31 06:36 am UTC
Re: Bad Link! - [info]mer1973, 2009-01-31 03:15 pm UTC
Re: Bad Link! - [info]mistal, 2009-01-31 08:01 am UTC
Re: Bad Link! - [info]mer1973, 2009-01-31 03:07 pm UTC
Re: Bad Link! - [info]cinnabar, 2009-02-02 06:53 am UTC

[info]rennyn_alerothi
2009-01-31 06:03 am UTC (link)
Despite the mod assertions, no one wanted to be part of the even-crazier Twilight fandom and the vomitous True Blood fandom.

A friend actually vigorously defended Twilight to me when I bashed it as "an affront to feminism," citing it's tough-as-nails waitress-turned-paranormal detective (his description) as a feminist icon. It when I expressed confusion (is there a waitress character anywhere in Twilight?) that he realized he thought I was talking about True Blood instead.

I actually know next to nothing about True Blood. Before I go skipping off to wikipedia/youtube, does anyone want to enlighten me as to its merits/lacktherof?

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::flyby gush:: - [info]gelasius, 2009-02-10 01:10 am UTC
Re: ::flyby gush:: - [info]nos, 2009-02-17 04:28 pm UTC

[info]bobafeis
2009-01-31 06:03 am UTC (link)
There is something about Moonlight wank that makes me want to bash my head against a wall. It seems so much less painful.

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GIP
[info]platedlizard
2009-01-31 06:35 am UTC (link)
Oh yeah, I wonder when the staring contest starts.

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Re: GIP - [info]ari_o, 2009-01-31 06:42 am UTC

[info]squeakytoy
2009-01-31 06:39 am UTC (link)
All right. I got COMPLETELY CONFUSED by the mention of True Blood and thought it was Blood Ties which is another vampire series, but, unlike Twilight and True Blood (I actually quite enjoyed Moonlight - it was fluff, but it was entertaining fluff), Blood Ties is fantastic.

At least, the books are, and various people have assured me that the TV series is pretty awesome, too.

So, yeah, I had a moment of "BZUH? Blood Ties in the same leagues as Twilight and Moonlight? Bite your tongue!"

/irrelevant

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[info]anarchicq
2009-01-31 07:17 am UTC (link)
Is it really that hard to ask your members for feedback before your alter the site? I do it all the time with my archives, even if it is 'my' site.

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[info]aeka
2009-01-31 07:24 am UTC (link)
Is it sad that after so much exposure to the lulzy fandom of Twilight, I actually came around to watching a bootleg version of the movie just to see what all the wank! hoopla was about?

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[info]vitalitat
2009-01-31 07:34 am UTC (link)
I pointed out that would be unfair, just as it would be unfair for me to hold her accountable for the actions of her "friend" Leeser last spring.


I totally snorted in laughter at that. LOL, Leeser.

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[info]dhaunea
2009-01-31 07:40 am UTC (link)
I still need to post something over there. I've been a member since the last wank, damn it.

... also, I just finished reading 27 pages of Pub, broke down and ordered the Moonlight DvDs, and am dying to know what happened when the mods jumped ship. DYING, I TELL YOU.

Someone must know! With screencaps!

Or must we wait until there is dissension in the ranks and someone steps forth with a belated tell-all post? (With this crowd, it's always a possibility.)

Also I really very much enjoyed the lack of 'no soliciting of funds' warning and the layout/skin wars.

Why do we never have as much booze as the Pub? Or did I just answer my own question?

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[info]rijane
2009-01-31 08:34 am UTC (link)
Just popping in with screen caps of the Bitch post:
Here

And the subsequent mod fleeing from VLF:
here

I didn't cap VampLoves when it went up, but it was identical to VLF except that Nosferatu and Lugosi were off the banner.

And this is Gina's response:
here

And theirs to her:
here

I also have a person who has the inside scoop on what went down between Gina and the mods, but she won't let me spill publicly at this point.

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[info]seca
2009-01-31 11:07 am UTC (link)
For such a tiny fandom they sure know how to wank like the big boys.

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[info]dana
2009-01-31 11:37 am UTC (link)
Yes, I'd be ashamed to be associated with Twilight, but True Blood is cool, and is so much better then Moonlight, like, way, way better.

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[info]ayezur
2009-01-31 03:01 pm UTC (link)
You know, based on a couple of the comments preceding me I believe we have officially reached the point where there are officially Too Many Damn Vampire Series.

It is time for a culling. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!

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[info]silrana
2009-01-31 03:10 pm UTC (link)
When I saw the title of this, my first thought was, "Someone is actually wanking about that old Bruce Willis/Cybill Shepherd series?"

*sigh* Damn, I'm getting old.

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(no subject) - [info]lil_miss_stfu, 2009-01-31 05:36 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2009-02-01 02:26 pm UTC
Oh this is just priceless
[info]argylespy
2009-01-31 04:50 pm UTC (link)
It was brought up that there are more posts on the ML part of this board. Perhaps that's because, like me and my admins/mods, the Twilight and True Blood folks visit other fanboards as well. Frankly I would too, given the distinct unwelcome feeling I have had for those fandoms here.

Emphasis mine.

So. If I remember right from the last few times these lovely folks have been on here, Twilight, at the very least, has never been exactly hot topic on these message boards except for severe mocking.

So the admin, in all their wisdom, without saying anything until it was already done, and knowing beforehand that the members that actually use the site loath Twilight with the white hot sparkling fury of a thousand suns (I'm sure someone's said it somewhere), they still went ahead and changed the site to include Twilight fandom and True Blood fandom.

And then were surprised when people were upset about it.

Oh fandom, never change.

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Re: Oh this is just priceless - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-01 02:46 am UTC

[info]b_jellybean
2009-01-31 07:34 pm UTC (link)
My amusement with Moonlight wank has decreased dramatically now that they're showing it before BSG. I keep catching something like the last two minutes and thinking "Awww. He's so cute and angsty!" and then I remember the crazy and feel guilty. Though, while looking up the show I found out that it isn't the Scientologist who is cute and sngsty, so it could be worse.

It did squick my mom last night, though-- "This man is drinking blood out of a tube! Why are you making me watch this?"
"But Mom, this isn't my show. I just got here."
"But it's YOUR CHANNEL!"

/thoughts on Moonlight

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[info]duraniedrama
2009-01-31 11:39 pm UTC (link)
What does it say about this fandom that their graphic design skills are so yawningly uninspiring?

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[info]missm
2009-02-01 02:05 am UTC (link)
*blinks at my-vampire-is-better-than-your-vampire wank that does not involve my fandom*

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[info]sisterelwood
2009-02-01 06:16 am UTC (link)
eta2: Why has this been tagged grudgewank? O_o I'm not in their fandom.

I have no idea but that aside- this shit is priceless.

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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-01 07:03 am UTC

[info]lilychan
2009-02-01 07:02 am UTC (link)
I was watching Sci-Fi when I saw the commercials for Moonlight. I thought of this wank and I wondered when it was going to pop up again.

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ETA2
[info]jkefka
2009-02-01 07:04 am UTC (link)
The tag might be more directed at [info]rijane showing up with a bunch of screencaps than you personally.

Though, honestly, I think we both have good reason to despise the Moonlight fandom at this point. That's a week of my life I'm never getting back.

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Re: ETA2 - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-01 07:13 am UTC
Re: ETA2 - [info]rijane, 2009-02-01 09:01 am UTC
Re: ETA2 - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-01 09:16 am UTC
Re: ETA2 - [info]squeakthemouse, 2009-02-03 09:05 am UTC

[info]panthea
2009-02-01 03:00 pm UTC (link)
Why has this been tagged grudgewank? O_o

Moreover, why is it "unfunny business"? Are vampires oh so very serious now? So that's sexism, racism, and... vampires on the verboten list?

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[info]tg2008
2009-02-01 04:56 pm UTC (link)
I agree with whoever said the Vamploverforever name sounds like a porno. The mental images running through my head because of this name are making me go WTF?? O_o

Heh, Sci-fi channel should have been tuning into this drama. They don't know what they let themselves in for. They have set aside a portion of their boards for moonlight:

http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showforum=169

So far it's campaigners vs. anti-campaigners and n00bs vs. the realists with a few people actually ignoring both camps and talking about the episodes. Ah Moonlight fandom - where some things never change and the crazies come out to play in the moonlight.

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(no subject) - [info]minibalrogmum, 2009-02-01 06:18 pm UTC



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