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Pyrate Jenni ([info]pyratejenni) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-02-23 23:58:00


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Entry tags:author entitlement, fandom: lotr rps, text interrogation: ur doin it wrong, writers are often pompous douches

So I Heard You Like LotRips
Our saga begins with [info]azewewish complaining about the warning system used by lotrips, a community that lists new stories in LotRiPs fandom. Which is fair enough as the moderators define warnings to be anything in the fic that readers should be aware of.

But then it devolves into: OMG STOP LABELLING MY FIC WITH LABELS THAT ARE NOT IN THE HEADER! and MY FIC IS NOT ANGST WHY ARE YOU LABELLING IT ANGST?! and OMG YOU ARE LINKING TO LOCKED POSTS DONT YOU KNOW THAT'S CARDINAL SIN #1 and OMG THE HORROR YOU ARE LISTING WHAT TYPE OF AU A STORY IS! and OMG YOU ARE SPOILING THE STORY

And it wouldn't be fun if there isn't a threat in the whole mess:

Knock if off or stop listing us all. WE are the authors here, NOT you. What WE want people to see about our stories is what WE post in OUR OWN HEADERS. YOUR opinion on what should or shouldn't be there DOESN'T MATTER. Such things about a story is what individual feedback is for, NOT what people should see before they read something!

And another, courtesy of Nverland

As was stated, you have the right to comment, you do not have the right to defame others work by your own opinions. And as such lotrips and msilverstar have both been banned several places already today.

The lotrips posts start here and here. [info]azewewish has a
whatcha guys think about this?' post. LJ's [info]metafandom has a whole slew of links about this bruising of authorial sensibilities here

Fic-labeling and warning wank: can spring and the REVIEWS ARE EBIL chorus be far behind?

(Found on a combination of [info]wank_report and [info]metafandom on LJ. Hat-tip to the 'mouse I'm blatantly swiping it from, and apologies to [info]miraba. Couldn't pass the title up.)




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[info]sepiamagpie
2009-02-24 07:35 am UTC (link)
Man, I wish all future defamings will be as gentle as what Msilverstar does.

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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-24 08:22 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-25 12:40 am UTC

[info]esorlehcar
2009-02-24 07:38 am UTC (link)
It's too bad so much of the better wank was locked down before this made it here. Rampant entitlement is always fun.

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2009-02-24 07:41 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]prolific, 2009-02-24 08:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-24 08:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adevyish, 2009-02-24 10:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2009-02-24 12:52 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2009-02-24 07:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2009-02-24 08:08 am UTC

[info]telesilla
2009-02-24 07:39 am UTC (link)
Oh for Dog's sake, will people NEVER learn that once you put something out on the internets, other people will have their own opinions about it?

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-02-24 07:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2009-02-24 08:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-02-24 08:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2009-02-24 08:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-02-24 08:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-24 08:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-02-24 08:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-24 08:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-02-24 08:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-24 08:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-02-24 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sneer, 2009-02-24 08:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ayezur, 2009-02-27 12:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]stele3, 2009-03-04 09:50 am UTC

[info]gmth
2009-02-24 07:54 am UTC (link)
Fic-labeling and warning wank: can spring and the REVIEWS ARE EBIL chorus be far behind?

It's like spotting the first robin of the season!

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(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2009-02-24 08:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2009-02-24 08:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-24 08:20 am UTC

[info]miraba
2009-02-24 08:14 am UTC (link)
They're just MODERATORS! (Apologies to Oulangi.)

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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-24 09:42 am UTC

[info]bobafeis
2009-02-24 08:14 am UTC (link)
Azewewish's journal makes me wince. I really cannot stand when people post rhetorical questions and then disallow comments. "ZOMG, doesn't this suck?! It sucks so hard, doesn't it?! But, don't comment here to tell me how much you agree that it sucks! Support me in emails!"

Also, her latest journal entry is about how people who voluntary do things and aren't treated like goddesses should stop whining. She is now my new favorite little wanker.

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(no subject) - [info]urpletastic, 2009-02-24 08:46 am UTC
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[info]underwaterowl
2009-02-24 08:29 am UTC (link)
...it took me a few seconds to get what that acronym was. I initially went 'lord of the rings rest in peace?' and had a long moment wondering if Peter Jackson really did THAT bad a job on the films, and if so how the hell it was spawning fanfic.

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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-24 09:41 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-24 04:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evening_rose, 2009-03-05 05:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]underwaterowl, 2009-03-05 10:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2009-02-24 10:06 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]risha, 2009-02-24 04:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]havocthecat, 2009-02-24 08:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2009-02-24 05:34 pm UTC
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[info]sorchar
2009-02-24 08:35 am UTC (link)
This wank makes me sad because it reminds me that my copy of Two Towers is stuck in the built-in DVD player on our TV. With a big DO NOT USE sign stuck on with tape next to the DVD slot so nobody pushes another one in there and gets that one stuck too.

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2009-02-24 06:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-25 12:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tachikoma01, 2009-02-24 11:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2009-02-25 12:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2009-02-25 05:09 am UTC

[info]amokk
2009-02-24 09:10 am UTC (link)
How bad is it that I wanted to reply with, "the Mona Lisa isn't on canvas, and you don't own derivative works, you moron."

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(no subject) - [info]vito_excalibur, 2009-02-25 02:36 am UTC

[info]coffee_mug
2009-02-24 09:16 am UTC (link)
I love old wanky fandoms resurfacing themselves! *parties like it's 2004*

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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-24 09:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2009-02-25 10:28 pm UTC

[info]wook77
2009-02-24 09:18 am UTC (link)
I love when the Cult of Nice people are the bitchy douchebags. It always makes me feel better about myself.

[info]msilverstar is one hell of a classy lady to take the good with the bad and react so politely.

IDK if anyone saw this but it does a good job of summarising the entitlement h0ring while putting a nice, polite smackdown on it.

I'll agree with a commentor at the above link - it's so nice that the truly batshit posts got flocked/bahleeted and the people that started it are now trying to appear reasonable instead.

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[info]ari_o
2009-02-24 09:36 am UTC (link)
Whoa. Lotrips wank. *feels all nostalgic for 2003*

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tintin
2009-02-24 09:41 am UTC (link)
People are still in Lotrips fandom?

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(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-02-24 09:43 am UTC
(no subject) - tintin, 2009-02-24 09:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-02-24 10:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2009-02-24 06:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seca, 2009-02-25 01:41 am UTC

[info]hector_rashbaum
2009-02-24 09:59 am UTC (link)
I don't want to alarm anybody.

But sometimes, when I'm telling friends about a spiffy new book I just read...

...I tell them more than what's on the back cover.

What evil have I wrought :(

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(no subject) - [info]dragonsong12, 2009-02-24 03:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seca, 2009-02-25 01:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]_rukia, 2009-02-24 05:14 pm UTC
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[info]rosehiptea
2009-02-24 10:56 am UTC (link)
you do not have the right to defame others work by your own opinions

Since when?

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2009-02-24 11:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tarash, 2009-02-24 12:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-02-24 07:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2009-02-24 10:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2009-02-24 04:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dorothy1901, 2009-02-24 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2009-02-24 08:50 pm UTC

[info]feelingcold
2009-02-24 12:48 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha. I miss the crazy mess that is lotrips fandom.

How dare you have non author approved opinions about a story! Thanks to these evil community volunteers defamers the public will never get to read nverland's literary masterpieces.

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[info]aerobot
2009-02-24 01:02 pm UTC (link)
The fact is, we're sick of the whole thing. What happens when we all decide to show the rest of you the finger and no longer share? Where's fandom then? Gone.

... WOW. I've seen a lot of entitlement, but never before have I seen someone who honestly thinks that fandom will collaspe without their precious fanfic.

The thing that galls me the most is that other people are being perfectly polite. But screw that! Why be polite when you can get your righteous fanficcer indignation on?

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[info]dragonsong12
2009-02-24 03:57 pm UTC (link)
For some reason I found myself wondering if these people consider using a turn signal while driving a spoiler.
Which might explain a lot of drivers around here, actually.

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2009-02-24 04:11 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]witty, 2009-02-25 03:31 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]seca, 2009-02-25 01:48 am UTC

[info]lerefuge
2009-02-24 06:20 pm UTC (link)
There is wank? I am still shocked over the fact that mod reads *every story* then tag them. I mean wow, that's dedication. Imagine the crap she must go through.

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2009-02-24 06:49 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-02-24 07:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rodo, 2009-02-24 07:38 pm UTC

[info]seiberwing
2009-02-24 08:16 pm UTC (link)
WTF crawled up [info]nverland's bum? Way to overreact.

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you're not kidding: - [info]baskinglizard, 2009-02-25 07:19 pm UTC
Re: you're not kidding: - [info]seiberwing, 2009-02-25 07:25 pm UTC
Re: you're not kidding: - [info]baskinglizard, 2009-02-25 07:30 pm UTC
Re: you're not kidding: - [info]seiberwing, 2009-02-25 08:02 pm UTC
Re: you're not kidding: - [info]tofuknight, 2009-02-25 10:39 pm UTC
Re: you're not kidding: - [info]seiberwing, 2009-02-25 10:41 pm UTC

[info]demonbean
2009-02-24 08:43 pm UTC (link)
Knock if off or stop listing us all. WE are the authors here, NOT you. What WE want people to see about our stories is what WE post in OUR OWN HEADERS. YOUR opinion on what should or shouldn't be there DOESN'T MATTER. Such things about a story is what individual feedback is for, NOT what people should see before they read something!


I had a great deal of fun reading this out loud.

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(no subject) - [info]magnolia_mama, 2009-02-24 08:50 pm UTC
Wait, missed this the first time ...
[info]demonbean
2009-02-24 08:44 pm UTC (link)
It still remains, WE own the works, and we get to choose who does or does not get to read it.

You're new to the internets, I take it?

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Re: Wait, missed this the first time ... - [info]phosfate, 2009-02-24 11:38 pm UTC
Re: Wait, missed this the first time ... - [info]mochibuni, 2009-02-25 04:09 am UTC

[info]lady_ganesh
2009-02-24 08:54 pm UTC (link)
Wow, this is special. The latest post on [info]azwewish's journal:

It never fails to amaze me - and not just in fandom, but in RL as well - when people take it upon themselves to do something & then pitch a fit when the entire world doesn't grind to a halt to bow to their efforts.

You mean, like, when you write a fic and someone PUTS DIFFERENT HEADERS ON IT?

No words.

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(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2009-02-24 09:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-02-25 03:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2009-02-25 03:37 am UTC

[info]eldritch
2009-02-24 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Ahhh, I love the smell of entitlement in the morning.

Oh wait. No I don't. It gives me hives.

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(no subject) - [info]risha, 2009-02-24 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eldritch, 2009-02-24 11:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]risha, 2009-02-24 11:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eldritch, 2009-02-25 02:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-02-25 07:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eldritch, 2009-02-25 08:04 am UTC

[info]qem_chibati
2009-02-24 10:45 pm UTC (link)
*amused and picturing their reaction to wank reports - WOULD NEVER EVER LINK - BAD, BUT.*


OMG STOP LABELLING US WITH LABELS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR PROFILES! and I AM NOT BATSHIT, WHY ARE YOU LABELLING ME AS BATSHIT?

and so much more!

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