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firefly99 ([info]firefly99) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-03-14 21:43:00


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Entry tags:author entitlement, boo hoo, comics, creator wank, don't make me come back there, fandom: watchmen, hollywood doesn't want my money, i swear i will turn this comm around, i'm just here for the recipes, in ur wank - swapping our foodz, isn't it awfully nice to have a penis, let's all get along, misogyny soup, oh christ here we go again, oh wait you fail, omg mock people mock, political correctness, raised by hyenas, rape, rape is not funny, recipes in comments, serious business, still not funny, stop sharing your thoughts, think of the children, this is not funny, thoughts on yaoi, too many fucking tags, unfunny business, wanking inside the house, we fail at not being misogynists, we love jf tags, what is wrong with you people?, writers are often pompous douches, yummeh foodz

He was also responsible for doing the voice of Solid Snake
Watchmen screenwriter David Hayter writes a sincere but slightly tongue-in-cheek open letter on Hardcore Nerdity to Watchmen fans and non-fans, to urge them to see the movie more than once in order to understand it.

One of his other points is that he thinks those who hate the movie on principle without having seen it should let it marinate in their minds and give it a chance:

It may upset you. And it probably will upset you.

And all along, we really meant it to. ...All this time, you’ve been waiting for a director who was going to hit you in the face with this story. To just crack you in the jaw, and then bend you over the pool table with this story. With its utterly raw view of the darkest sides of human nature, expressed through its masks of action and beauty and twisted good intentions... Like the Comedian on the Grassy Knoll. ...You'll be thinking about this film, down the road. It'll nag at you. How it was rough and beautiful. How it went where it wanted to go, and you just hung on. How it was thoughtful and hateful and bleak and hilarious. And for Jackie Earle Haley.

Trust me. You'll come back, eventually. Just like Sally.


Comments begin in the 'we love Watchmen (although some of us have reservations about the swinging massive blue dong), go Dayter' mould, until people, from page three onwards, suddenly notice the metaphor he used to describe how the movie should make you feel:

DUDE. No one asks to be cracked in the jaw and bent over the goddamned pool table. Was there NO OTHER ANALOGY you could have used? Do you realize that you're comparing your movie to a rapist and the moviegoers to victims asking for it? And what is this "You'll come back. Just like Sally" crap? Do you have any f***ing idea how offensive that is? Could you not have come up with some other analogy, some other pithy tag, something that doesn't make it out like the Comedian was doing Silk Spectre a f***ing favor when he beat her bloody and tried to rape her?

Did you mean to do that?? If not, erm, consider your words more carefully next time you do the "open letter" thing, because wow, did that part get away from you.


Dayter comments on page 7 with an apology claiming he does not condone violence against women, which is edited into the original article. People briefly thank him for apologising, and then attack him again. Dayter responds graciously via huge spoonfuls of sarcasm and retracting his apology (page 8):

Clearly, you can't get less hateful or spewy than that. I humbly retract the statement.

Anyway, I'm sorry you disliked the film.

And you're right, I don't know why I ever set out to do this in the first place. It's really the world I'm hurting. Damn my family, and their almost-constant need for food!


On top of all of this there's huge amounts of movie rage, but the best thing about the whole altercation is the people at Hardcore Nerdity going so far as to make a video response urging people to LEAVE DAYTER ALONE, starring a very angry Dr. Manhattan.




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[info]skarrow
2009-03-15 01:17 am UTC (link)
Yes.

This is hilarious.

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[info]ancarett
2009-03-15 01:23 am UTC (link)
The video response was definitely awesome. But you'd think with friends like Dr. Manhattan, that this dude wouldn't need us fans and our stinking money, anyway, right?

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[info]witty
2009-03-15 01:25 am UTC (link)
Not seeing the funny, here. In fact, I daresay it might be unfunny. Isn't.... there.... a place for unfunny stuff? Unfunny junk? Unfunny thingamabobs?

Help me out here.

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(no subject) - [info]alya1989262, 2009-03-15 01:59 am UTC
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[info]fern_on_fen
2009-03-15 01:37 am UTC (link)
Video response: Hilarious.

Rest? Not so much.

Anyone else a little concerned that they're placing the more squickable things about The Comedian/Silk Spectre pairing all on Hayter, when clearly it was Moore who did it?

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(no subject) - [info]grapefruitzzz, 2009-03-15 02:28 am UTC
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Help me out, here. - [info]lilindrome, 2009-03-15 10:36 am UTC
Re: Help me out, here. - [info]bobafeis, 2009-03-15 01:09 pm UTC
Re: Help me out, here. - [info]serafina20, 2009-03-15 08:08 pm UTC
Re: Help me out, here. - [info]lilindrome, 2009-03-16 02:04 am UTC
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[info]puipui
2009-03-15 01:47 am UTC (link)
HA HA HA IT'S A SEXIST BASTARD WHO THINKS RAPISTS ARE OKAY AND CHICKS ARE ASKING FOR IT AND OH LOOK HE WRITES MOVIES THAT PEOPLE GO SEE AND PEOPLE DEFEND HIM WHEN HE SAYS SHIT LIKE THIS AHAHAHAHAHA GOSH THAT'S FUNNY!

>:(

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*giggle* - [info]tofuknight, 2009-03-15 06:30 pm UTC

[info]cyndra_falin
2009-03-15 01:52 am UTC (link)
Watchmen: Like rape, in a way.

*goes to drink HEAVELY*

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(no subject) - ariadne484, 2009-03-15 08:03 pm UTC
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[info]quantumreality
2009-03-15 01:53 am UTC (link)
*sigh*

I get that he probably got carried away when he wrote the original description. That doesn't excuse the fact that it was a rather lame-brained and badly thought-out comparison.

Seems to me the man ought to take his lumps re the phraseology and move on, because there's no good to be done trying to justify it in any way.

*facepalms*

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(no subject) - [info]insanityprelude, 2009-03-15 11:22 pm UTC

[info]tez
2009-03-15 01:53 am UTC (link)
Go straight to unfunnybusiness, do NOT pass go, do NOT collect $200.

Jesus Christ.

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(no subject) - [info]spawn_of_kong, 2009-03-15 03:00 am UTC
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[info]greenling
2009-03-15 01:58 am UTC (link)
No, I have to say I believe he didn't mean a word he said.

EDGY EDGY EDGY LOOK AT ME I AM SO EDGY ballllllllsss

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[info]researchgrrrl
2009-03-15 01:59 am UTC (link)
Trust me. You'll come back, eventually. Just like Sally.

I was so much in denial that he actually wrote this that I temporarily convinced myself that he had to be -- had to be -- referring to Silk Spectre II. I even looked up the name in the graphic novel because I was certain he couldn't have meant...what he absolutely and entirely did mean.

Jack. Ass.

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(no subject) - [info]white_tean, 2009-03-15 03:06 pm UTC

ultimi_scopuli
2009-03-15 02:01 am UTC (link)
This was partly linked at [info]unfunnybusiness already.

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(no subject) - [info]waltraute, 2009-03-15 02:07 am UTC
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[info]iczer6
2009-03-15 02:08 am UTC (link)
Oh Dave.

I'm hoping this is just a case of 'worst analogy ever'.

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(no subject) - [info]waltraute, 2009-03-15 02:11 am UTC

[info]spawn_of_kong
2009-03-15 02:14 am UTC (link)
Thanks, Dave. You've given me even greater resolve not to see Watchmen.

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[info]ediblestars
2009-03-15 02:21 am UTC (link)
Looks like someone's been drinking their Hayterade! OHHHHHH SNAP?!

Yeah, rape isn't funny.

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(no subject) - [info]ghostmaster, 2009-03-15 05:11 am UTC

[info]wanktastic
2009-03-15 02:28 am UTC (link)
It's tragic how so many FWers' scrolling fingers are broken. It's a true epidemic. :(

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[info]reeve
2009-03-15 03:18 am UTC (link)
I guess this would be a good time to thank [info]doomsday for the kickass chocolate cake recipe posted in a now-deleted wank report (in response to my inquiry). Put it to good use recently and the results were delicious.

Got another request: hot pasta dishes?

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[info]willywanka
2009-03-15 04:12 am UTC (link)
While there's no reason to think creators aren't capable of wanking just as much as their fans, it always seems so bizarre (to me) when they're caught out doing so, like when you walk into the wrong bathroom and spend a few seconds thinking "wait, what?"

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[info]hallidae
2009-03-15 04:12 am UTC (link)
Wait... I'm reading through the comments, and unless I'm totally reading wrong it looks like after he apparently apologized, ONE PERSON shredded the letter anyway, and it was less about the rape analogy and more about it's-not-like-the-source hating, and that alone was enough to... make him take back the apology about the rape analogy? What Not helping your case there, buddy.

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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2009-03-15 04:25 am UTC
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[info]tunxeh
2009-03-15 04:55 am UTC (link)
Rape: still not funny.

There's more on this at Shakespeare's Sister, by the way — not just about the questionable rape humor, but about the "Just like Sally" line. It seems to imply that the old misogynist woman-falling-in-love-with-her-rapist trope is in the movie deliberately rather than as an oversight of a lazy writer.

*cleans up*

See, told you it wasn't funny.

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Drink Recipes
[info]sadisticferret
2009-03-15 05:14 am UTC (link)
We need them, stat. Have some delicious Amarula cocktails to start with.

French Toast

1 1/2 oz. Amarula Cream
1/2 oz. rum
1/2 oz. milk

Brown Elephant

2 oz. Amarula Cream
100 ml milk
100 ml Coca-Cola

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Re: Drink Recipes - [info]ilanalynn, 2009-03-15 05:57 am UTC
Re: Drink Recipes - [info]beejium, 2009-03-15 06:02 am UTC
Re: Drink Recipes - [info]hallidae, 2009-03-15 06:17 am UTC
Re: Drink Recipes - [info]sorchar, 2009-03-15 06:25 am UTC
I promise that it's not as nasty as it sounds. - [info]persona, 2009-03-15 07:35 pm UTC
Re: I promise that it's not as nasty as it sounds. - [info]sadisticferret, 2009-03-15 11:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]persona, 2009-03-16 01:12 am UTC
Re: Drink Recipes - [info]makeshyft, 2009-03-16 12:53 am UTC

[info]julesnoctambule
2009-03-15 05:41 am UTC (link)
Insanely shitty comparison, and the whole 'you don't GET it!' attitude about the movie is quite irritating. Of course, superiority and misogyny are frequent hallmarks of the source material's creator, so. . .yeah. Wonder how many angry fans bought Lost Girls?

I do have to agree that Jackie Earle Haley made the movie well worth seeing and we'll probably see it again -- but not because we didn't understand it the first time.

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(no subject) - tree, 2009-03-15 01:35 pm UTC

[info]ecchaniz0r
2009-03-15 05:45 am UTC (link)
Oh John Ringo Daivid Hayter, NO. D:

Fuck, I thought he was cool. WHY YOU DO THIS, DUDE.

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And I just have to use this icon. - [info]insanityprelude, 2009-03-15 11:41 pm UTC
Re: And I just have to use this icon. - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2009-03-16 03:11 am UTC
Hey, look, kids! Carbomb Cupcakes!
[info]brennalarose
2009-03-15 06:07 am UTC (link)
Recipe from Smitten Kitchen, link is here: http://smittenkitchen.com/2009/01/car-bomb-cupcakes/

For the Guinness Chocolate Cupcakes

1 cup stout (such as Guinness)
1 cup (2 sticks) unsalted butter
3/4 cup unsweetened cocoa powder (preferably Dutch-process)
2 cups all purpose flour
2 cups sugar
1 1/2 teaspoons baking soda
3/4 teaspoon salt
2 large eggs
2/3 cup sour cream

Ganache Filling (Updated to double it, based on many commenters suggestions — thanks!)
8 ounces bittersweet chocolate
2/3 cup heavy cream
2 tablespoons butter, room temperature
1 to 2 teaspoons Irish whiskey (optional)

Baileys Frosting (see Recipe Notes)
3 to 4 cups confections sugar
1 stick (1/2 cup or 4 ounces) unsalted butter, at room temperatue
3 to 4 tablespoons Baileys (or milk, or heavy cream, or a combination thereof)

Special equipment: 1-inch round cookie cutter or an apple corer and a piping bag (though a plastic bag with the corner snipped off will also work)

Make the cupcakes: Preheat oven to 350°F. Line 24 cupcake cups with liners. Bring 1 cup stout and 1 cup butter to simmer in heavy large saucepan over medium heat. Add cocoa powder and whisk until mixture is smooth. Cool slightly.

Whisk flour, sugar, baking soda, and 3/4 teaspoon salt in large bowl to blend. Using electric mixer, beat eggs and sour cream in another large bowl to blend. Add stout-chocolate mixture to egg mixture and beat just to combine. Add flour mixture and beat briefly on slow speed. Using rubber spatula, fold batter until completely combined. Divide batter among cupcake liners, filling them 2/3 to 3/4 of the way. Bake cake until tester inserted into center comes out clean, rotating them once front to back if your oven bakes unevenly, about 17 minutes. Cool cupcakes on a rack completely.

Make the filling: Chop the chocolate and transfer it to a heatproof bowl. Heat the cream until simmering and pour it over the chocolate. Let it sit for one minute and then stir until smooth. (If this has not sufficiently melted the chocolate, you can return it to a double-boiler to gently melt what remains. 20 seconds in the microwave, watching carefully, will also work.) Add the butter and whiskey (if you’re using it) and stir until combined.

Fill the cupcakes: Let the ganache cool until thick but still soft enough to be piped (the fridge will speed this along but you must stir it every 10 minutes). Meanwhile, using your 1-inch round cookie cutter or an apple corer, cut the centers out of the cooled cupcakes. You want to go most of the way down the cupcake but not cut through the bottom — aim for 2/3 of the way. A slim spoon or grapefruit knife will help you get the center out. Those are your “tasters”. Put the ganache into a piping bag with a wide tip and fill the holes in each cupcake to the top.

Make the frosting: Whip the butter in the bowl of an electric mixer, or with a hand mixer, for several minutes. You want to get it very light and fluffy. Slowly add the powdered sugar, a few tablespoons at a time.

When the frosting looks thick enough to spread, drizzle in the Baileys (or milk) and whip it until combined. If this has made the frosting too thin (it shouldn’t, but just in case) beat in another spoonful or two of powdered sugar.

Ice and decorate the cupcakes. [Mine will probably be in obnoxious pink, orange and yellow plaid pattern, because I can.]

Do ahead: You can bake the cupcakes a week or two in advance and store them, well wrapped, in the freezer. You can also fill them before you freeze them. They also keep filled — or filled and frosted — in the fridge for a day. (Longer, they will start to get stale.)

Warning: The booze does not cook out of the frosting. Don't let anyone under drinking age lick the bowls.

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Re: Hey, look, kids! Carbomb Cupcakes! - ariadne484, 2009-03-15 08:05 pm UTC
Re: Hey, look, kids! Carbomb Cupcakes! - [info]brennalarose, 2009-03-16 03:06 am UTC
Re: Hey, look, kids! Carbomb Cupcakes! - [info]researchgrrrl, 2009-03-15 09:28 pm UTC
Re: Hey, look, kids! Carbomb Cupcakes! - [info]demonbean, 2009-03-16 05:23 am UTC
Re: Hey, look, kids! Carbomb Cupcakes! - [info]quantumreality, 2009-03-23 12:38 am UTC
Re: Hey, look, kids! Carbomb Cupcakes! - [info]brennalarose, 2009-03-23 06:38 pm UTC

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2009-03-15 06:12 am UTC (link)
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[info]sarracenia
2009-03-15 06:14 am UTC (link)
Banana pancakes:

2 bananas
1 egg
2 cups flour (whatever type you want, really, I've used whole wheat, white, bread etc.)
2 tsp baking soda
Enough milk to reach desired thickness (I like my pancakes very very thin, but most people don't. If you run out of milk before it's reached that point done, I've substituted water before.)
Spices (I usually grind up a couple allspice berries and maybe some cinnamon in my mortar and pestle. I fail at measuring, but it's probably a couple teaspoons. Other possible spices are vanilla, nutmeg, cloves, etc.)

Mash the bananas thoroughly. I like mine so there's not even any chunks left. Mix in the egg. Mix in a cup or so of milk. Mix in the flour and baking soda and the spices. Mix in more milk until you have a relatively thin batter. Unless you like really thick pancakes I guess.

Get your griddle going. Make it nonstick by unwrapping the top of a stick of butter and rubbing it in. (I like my cooking unhealthy, damnit.) Pour batter on the griddle. Wait until one side has browned. Flip it and cook the other side.

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