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firefly99 ([info]firefly99) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-03-14 21:43:00


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Entry tags:author entitlement, boo hoo, comics, creator wank, don't make me come back there, fandom: watchmen, hollywood doesn't want my money, i swear i will turn this comm around, i'm just here for the recipes, in ur wank - swapping our foodz, isn't it awfully nice to have a penis, let's all get along, misogyny soup, oh christ here we go again, oh wait you fail, omg mock people mock, political correctness, raised by hyenas, rape, rape is not funny, recipes in comments, serious business, still not funny, stop sharing your thoughts, think of the children, this is not funny, thoughts on yaoi, too many fucking tags, unfunny business, wanking inside the house, we fail at not being misogynists, we love jf tags, what is wrong with you people?, writers are often pompous douches, yummeh foodz

He was also responsible for doing the voice of Solid Snake
Watchmen screenwriter David Hayter writes a sincere but slightly tongue-in-cheek open letter on Hardcore Nerdity to Watchmen fans and non-fans, to urge them to see the movie more than once in order to understand it.

One of his other points is that he thinks those who hate the movie on principle without having seen it should let it marinate in their minds and give it a chance:

It may upset you. And it probably will upset you.

And all along, we really meant it to. ...All this time, you’ve been waiting for a director who was going to hit you in the face with this story. To just crack you in the jaw, and then bend you over the pool table with this story. With its utterly raw view of the darkest sides of human nature, expressed through its masks of action and beauty and twisted good intentions... Like the Comedian on the Grassy Knoll. ...You'll be thinking about this film, down the road. It'll nag at you. How it was rough and beautiful. How it went where it wanted to go, and you just hung on. How it was thoughtful and hateful and bleak and hilarious. And for Jackie Earle Haley.

Trust me. You'll come back, eventually. Just like Sally.


Comments begin in the 'we love Watchmen (although some of us have reservations about the swinging massive blue dong), go Dayter' mould, until people, from page three onwards, suddenly notice the metaphor he used to describe how the movie should make you feel:

DUDE. No one asks to be cracked in the jaw and bent over the goddamned pool table. Was there NO OTHER ANALOGY you could have used? Do you realize that you're comparing your movie to a rapist and the moviegoers to victims asking for it? And what is this "You'll come back. Just like Sally" crap? Do you have any f***ing idea how offensive that is? Could you not have come up with some other analogy, some other pithy tag, something that doesn't make it out like the Comedian was doing Silk Spectre a f***ing favor when he beat her bloody and tried to rape her?

Did you mean to do that?? If not, erm, consider your words more carefully next time you do the "open letter" thing, because wow, did that part get away from you.


Dayter comments on page 7 with an apology claiming he does not condone violence against women, which is edited into the original article. People briefly thank him for apologising, and then attack him again. Dayter responds graciously via huge spoonfuls of sarcasm and retracting his apology (page 8):

Clearly, you can't get less hateful or spewy than that. I humbly retract the statement.

Anyway, I'm sorry you disliked the film.

And you're right, I don't know why I ever set out to do this in the first place. It's really the world I'm hurting. Damn my family, and their almost-constant need for food!


On top of all of this there's huge amounts of movie rage, but the best thing about the whole altercation is the people at Hardcore Nerdity going so far as to make a video response urging people to LEAVE DAYTER ALONE, starring a very angry Dr. Manhattan.



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[info]_goblin_
2009-03-15 04:11 am UTC (link)
TROLL!

I mean, you couldn't be this stupid for real, right?

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[info]waltraute
2009-03-15 04:14 am UTC (link)
My account number is way older than yours, n00bles.

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[info]cyndra_falin
2009-03-15 04:19 am UTC (link)
So this gives you a free pass to be a total asshat? Good to know.

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[info]waltraute
2009-03-15 04:21 am UTC (link)
Shockingly enough, it's possible to 'dissent' here on this 'fandom_wank'.

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[info]cyndra_falin
2009-03-15 04:22 am UTC (link)
Your turn came up! Now lets all celebrate and drink!

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[info]photosinensis
2009-03-15 05:52 am UTC (link)
I've tried that. It doesn't work.

It's probably best to conform to the Hive Vagina. That is, unless you really like this kind of discussion.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2009-03-15 10:34 am UTC (link)
Yes, it always helps to call 'whining like a wanky child' 'dissenting.' Makes it sound much more grown up.

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[info]neon_umbra
2009-03-15 08:02 pm UTC (link)
Monday morning I'm going to wake up.. whine like a child about the sun rising (a force of nature, much like dogpiles on a bad post) and when my girlfriend tells me to stop acting like a child, I will proudly proclaim. I'm dissenting!
Then she will throw me out the window and I will lay broken in the alley way and I will dissent about broken bones and gravity.
I mean.. I saw the post, I clicked.. I don't find the post funny but I knew the responses would be wonderful. This time, no so much so. Someone make the bad person with the low account number stop fighting with mommies! *dissents with Snuggie in hand and thumb in mouth*

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[info]bubosquared
2009-03-15 05:04 am UTC (link)
... You are joking, right? You're seriously pulling the "My account number is lower than yours, ergo shut up" argument? Because, er, that didn't end too well for the last turkey to try it.

And furthermore, if that is how you judge worthiness, I'm clearly superior to you, so STFU, n00blet.

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[info]panthea
2009-03-15 05:18 am UTC (link)
...oh my goodness, I actually win this Battle of the Account Numbers. That never happens!

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[info]bubosquared
2009-03-15 05:33 am UTC (link)
HA-ha, you're older than me! *points, laughs, offers cane*

... Wait, MOD PERSON! Er, I meant that in a nice way? plz dun ban me?

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[info]panthea
2009-03-15 10:17 pm UTC (link)
I may be older, but you have the icon. :D

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[info]photosinensis
2009-03-15 05:54 am UTC (link)
Well, I could pull my trump card, but I'm not really party to this battle, now am I?

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[info]ari_o
2009-03-15 05:27 am UTC (link)
I think the only reply I could come up with now would be:

I have seven kinds of cheese. Your is much better.

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[info]ari_o
2009-03-15 05:28 am UTC (link)
*cries*

I'm too drunk for F_W.

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[info]bubosquared
2009-03-15 05:36 am UTC (link)
It's okay, so am I, really. (I was forcible corseted and dragged to a party and fed lots of booze. THAT IS MY STORY AND I'M STICKING TO IT!)

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[info]sorchar
2009-03-15 06:24 am UTC (link)
You should've safeworded.

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[info]ari_o
2009-03-15 06:44 am UTC (link)
CORSETED?! WHAT?!

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[info]singe
2009-03-15 08:24 am UTC (link)
She's sober NOW!

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[info]notjo
2009-03-15 09:30 am UTC (link)
Plz email me.

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[info]sisterelwood
2009-03-15 07:44 am UTC (link)
Are you shitting me? You just pulled out the "I've been here longer than you" card- you do realize that some of the wankiest wankas here are some of the oldest members, right?

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[info]waltraute
2009-03-15 07:48 am UTC (link)
Allusion is always lost on many.

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[info]sisterelwood
2009-03-15 07:53 am UTC (link)
And so are the collected works of Betty Friedan. What's your point?

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[info]rotten_fish
2009-03-15 07:48 am UTC (link)
Madmouth, is that you?

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[info]puipui
2009-03-15 02:06 pm UTC (link)
I love you.

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