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Caito Potato ([info]caito) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-04-16 23:12:00


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The Russet Doom Saga, Part III
Lady Sybilla put out another press release. She also showed up at the Twilight Lexicon again, since that went so well the last time. (When the formatting gets hard to read, check it here.)

(Fanhistory links are all nofollow.)

After her Wikipedia article was deleted (you can go to the Russet-Noon webpage for more information), Lady Sybilla edited the shit out of the Russet Noon Fanhistory page all by her lonesome (despire Laura Hale asking around on Bebo whether anyone else had anything to contribute).

And in case your blog entry about the whole affair shows up there, I'm sorry. Lady Sybilla farmed the Russet Doom Supplementary Links Collection and changed my format a little to make the attention seem less wholly negative.

Oh also I put together an
entry in my journal with links to screencaps and transcriptions and things, for quick and easy reference. 




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[info]caito
2009-04-16 05:33 pm UTC (link)
I know it's still a babywank situation at this point, but I need to go to bed and I figure I can deal with ETAs when I get up tomorrow.

Oh, also look what I found: the original read-aloud preface video. And here I thought it was lost to the internet forever!

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miss_void
2009-04-16 05:41 pm UTC (link)
She's moved from strange to funny all the way back to creepy for me. Her complete lack of getting it is really getting disturbing.

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[info]feenix
2009-04-16 05:48 pm UTC (link)
...oh jeez.

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[info]lexin
2009-04-16 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Strange person is disturbing.

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[info]daimeryan_rei
2009-04-16 06:02 pm UTC (link)
Authors don't create characters. They merely channel them

This woman starts to scare me. 0__o

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[info]yattara
2009-04-16 06:03 pm UTC (link)
"Because my fans illegally download music, I shouldn't be persecuted for this fic." That's what she seems to say, and the sense, it is not making.

And she has a very well-developed persecution-complex.

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[info]xero_sky
2009-04-16 06:15 pm UTC (link)
I don’t know what else to do. No matter how hard I try to apologize and admit that I was wrong, I am still being demonized and made out to be a thief.

The internets just don't understand me!!

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(no subject) - [info]bleachedclouds, 2009-04-17 07:35 am UTC
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Russet Noon + Apple of Knowledge = Russet Apple?
(Anonymous)
2009-04-16 06:19 pm UTC (link)
So, I'm wondering... did she use this Universal Mind business to justify her actions to everyone before, or did she go looking for a way to justify her actions after she was omgattacked!/omgstalked! and The Power of Now was just begging her to use it?

All in all, Lady S makes me think of that Far Side cartoon. You know, the one that said: "Nature's way of saying 'Do Not Touch'."

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[info]jkefka
2009-04-16 06:21 pm UTC (link)
And I can hear the screams of every even remotely sane fanfic writer as she does this too. Does she even have supporters anymore, or is she just doing this Chancery Stone style?

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[info]dez_chan
2009-04-16 06:22 pm UTC (link)
She needs to understand she doesn't have to be an expert at everything. You know what, not everyone does understand copyright law...that's why there are lawyers. You don't justify your own ignorance by coming up with ever-more improbable reasons why you're not breaking copyright laws. Certainly bringing Jung into it at this late stage of the game is reaching in a spectacularly amusing way.

Who's got bets on what tactic she'll use next to dodge blame? "English only has 26 letters in it's alphabet; I can't be creative with those constrictions!"

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-16 06:25 pm UTC (link)
:D :D :D :D

This is what I lurk in Fandom_Wank for.

Her teeny weeny point about archetypes, she takes it and runs off a cliff with it. What archetype does she think Eddy is representing anyway?

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[info]latte_vanilla
2009-04-16 06:28 pm UTC (link)
Maybe it's my bias towards Twilight fandom in general, but I have no doubt, that there are a lot of Twi-hards who buy into what she's saying, and think that she is defending their rights of collective ownership of the Twilight characters. And that's scary.
Almost as scary as Syb's complete lack of understanding how things like law or science actually work.

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[info]charamei
2009-04-16 06:29 pm UTC (link)
Crazy lady is crazy.

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[info]lyrangalia
2009-04-16 06:30 pm UTC (link)
Has anyone gotten a Twilight bingo yet?

I think I'm going to write a humorous novel about a plucky band of wankas and the Woman Who Thinks She's Being Persecuted. The Woman will implement a nefarious scheme to take down the plucky band of wankas one press release at a time. Someone will die of poisoning by Stupid, another will die of blunt trauma via headdesking, and on and on. Will our wankas survive? Will The Woman get it?

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[info]viralmemory
2009-04-16 06:32 pm UTC (link)
Where have I heard those justifications before... it's going to bug me all day- wait, I've got it.

Eragon!

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[info]_goblin_
2009-04-16 06:42 pm UTC (link)
From Twilight Lexicon link:

Fair enough, we’re all entitled to our own opinion and views. Your reply reflects your subjective interpretation of my actions...

Gnh. Gnnhur. Gah! *flaily-flail of rage*

No. They are not opinions. They are not interpretations. We understand the basics of copyright law and you do not.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-16 06:44 pm UTC (link)
This fills me with with more glee than it probably should.

m_k @ lj

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[info]duraniedrama
2009-04-16 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Something I’m curious about, though: Why do you keep emphasizing my age as if it were something to be ashamed of?

Because you're acting like a spoiled teenager and you're old enough to know better?

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-16 06:52 pm UTC (link)
The woman needs to take a lit. crit. class. She's more hung up on Freud than... Freud.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-16 06:52 pm UTC (link)
"You, too, can be part of the movement to crucify Lady Sybilla."

Someone needs to icon that.
I kind of hope she never stops.

m_k @ lj

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Humble Icon Offering - [info]poisonyoulove, 2009-04-17 03:46 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2009-04-16 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Wow. I read through her latest press release, and it actually *enraged* me. It enraged me as a writer, it enraged me as a Joseph Campbell fangirl, and it enraged me as someone who has actually read me some Carl Jung. That's! Not! How! Writing! Works!

FICTION: UR DOING IT WRONG.

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(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-04-16 06:57 pm UTC
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yeah I'm not fascinated by Carl Jung's theories or anything... - [info]persona, 2009-04-16 08:34 pm UTC
Re: yeah I'm not fascinated by Carl Jung's theories or anything... - [info]ari_o, 2009-04-16 09:21 pm UTC
Re: yeah I'm not fascinated by Carl Jung's theories or anything... - [info]lyrangalia, 2009-04-16 09:53 pm UTC
Re: yeah I'm not fascinated by Carl Jung's theories or anything... - [info]persona, 2009-04-16 11:07 pm UTC
Re: yeah I'm not fascinated by Carl Jung's theories or anything... - [info]risha, 2009-04-16 10:51 pm UTC
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[info]jedi_dwh
2009-04-16 07:01 pm UTC (link)
To be honest, I haven’t read any fanfics out there by college-educated people.

Does this woman spend any time in fandom? Or is it just the Twilight fandom? Because I know a substantial percentage of the writers in my fandom are college educated. Then again, Star Wars is a much older fandom. Older, and dare I say it, almost respectable?

Her argument for the Universal Mind still makes my brain hurt. Such things are nice in theory, and great for conversation when everyone is drunk, high, or sleep-deprived, but have ZERO BEARING ON COPYRIGHT LAW. And in all my courses in aesthetics, this concept never came up. And we covered some pretty goofy theories if only for the sake of argument.

...dangit, I can't cover crazy this early in the morning. Screw this, I'm getting a muffin.

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[info]queue
2009-04-16 07:04 pm UTC (link)
In other words, there is an Edward Cullen for every generation

Every crappy tween series, you mean.

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scifantasy
2009-04-16 07:07 pm UTC (link)
Characters don't belong to authors. Authors don't create characters. They merely channel them. Characters are recurring universal archetypes. The only thing that changes is their names and identities, but their essence is always the same.

Some people really should not be exposed to Joseph Campbell.

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[info]_goblin_
2009-04-16 07:09 pm UTC (link)
The origin of all characters is the Shared Mind, the only mind that truly exists. Our minds are all one single ocean of shared memories, fantasies, dreams, nightmares and visions.

If that's true, why is it proving so hard to thump an iota of understanding into this woman?

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