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Caito Potato ([info]caito) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-04-16 23:12:00
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Entry tags:author entitlement, baleetion, books that should be burned, can't escape the screencaps, conspiracy theories, crazy people, do your research, doesn't mean what you think it means, enormous clusterfuck, entitlement, fandom failures, fandom: twilight, fanfic, gratuitous freud reference, hypocrisy, i don't know my rights, i know it because of my learnings, i wanted to be wanked, illegality, internet lawyers, internet psychologist, interrogating from the wrong perspective, irony, lawyerism, my education let me show you it, my pretension let me show you it, not good with criticism, not very subtle at all, not you again, oh christ here we go again, omgwtf, oppression, persecution, reading comprehension whut?, self-publishing, she's on a mission guys!, someone is wrong on the internet!, this is the wank that never ends, this was no chicken, too many fucking tags, wankers who will not shut up, we love jf tags, what the shit is this?, whut, wikipedia, writers are often pompous douches, wtf mate, yay screencaps!

The Russet Doom Saga, Part III
Lady Sybilla put out another press release. She also showed up at the Twilight Lexicon again, since that went so well the last time. (When the formatting gets hard to read, check it here.)

(Fanhistory links are all nofollow.)

After her Wikipedia article was deleted (you can go to the Russet-Noon webpage for more information), Lady Sybilla edited the shit out of the Russet Noon Fanhistory page all by her lonesome (despire Laura Hale asking around on Bebo whether anyone else had anything to contribute).

And in case your blog entry about the whole affair shows up there, I'm sorry. Lady Sybilla farmed the Russet Doom Supplementary Links Collection and changed my format a little to make the attention seem less wholly negative.

Oh also I put together an entry in my journal with links to screencaps and transcriptions and things, for quick and easy reference. 


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[info]ghostmaster
2009-04-16 10:37 pm UTC (link)
What about Eragon? I took one look at it in Borders and said "Ew, do not want." And that was pretty much that last I heard about it.

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[info]shinysandals
2009-04-16 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Eragon is basically Star Wars (complete with a farm boy, a strange old hermit, a princess helping a rebellion, a lost sibling, and a murdered uncle) set in a really poorly-done Tolkienesque Frankenworld. I'm convinced it never would have been published had Christopher Paolini not had parents with their own publishing company and a really good PR guy. Dude's been a 15-year-old "prodigy" for a decade now.

But anyway, when asked about the glaring similarities to other people's works -- the magic system is lifted straight out of Earthsea, not to mention dragons and riders linked by telepathy -- Paolini responded something to the effect of "All fantasy is derivative."

...which honestly wouldn't bother me so much if he weren't so arrogant about it. He's been told his whole life that he's a genius, and he seems to believe it. >:(

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[info]rennyn_alerothi
2009-04-17 11:24 pm UTC (link)
It's Star Wars and Earthsea and Pern when it's not trying to be the Belgariad and Dune. :/

To be fair, there were things about it I liked...and I don't have to go hunting through all my various volumes of collected fantasy literature when I want to go looking for an example particular fantasy or sci-fi trope, because it's all right there in the Inheritance Trilogy. :D

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[info]rennyn_alerothi
2009-04-17 11:25 pm UTC (link)
and I don't have to go hunting through all my various volumes of collected fantasy literature when I want to go looking for an example particular fantasy or sci-fi trope,

*an example of a particular, I mean. :/

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[info]shinysandals
2009-04-17 11:36 pm UTC (link)
Oh geez, you just reminded me of that "Haderach Hadarac Desert" thing. Paolini says he's a big fan of Dune, but I read in an interview somewhere, when someone asked if that was supposed to be a Dune reference, his response was basically "OH LOL, I didn't even notice that!" SHENANIGANS, I TELL YOU. Just admit it, cripes.

It could have been a decent book -- not great, but decent. There were things I liked, too. I thought the scenes with Eragon taking care of Baby Saphira were adorable, for instance. But any potential was ruined by Mommy and Daddy rushing to publish their little Genius Boy's novel, rather than encouraging him to refine his world-building over several years. Now it's just a mess of Author on Board. But yes, good for tropes! Can't Argue With Elves, after all. >D

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[info]rennyn_alerothi
2009-04-17 11:59 pm UTC (link)
I frankly would have loved to have seen what it would have developed into had Mommy and Daddy left it alone and let him world-build for another 5-10 years or so. I've done that. I've had a couple of fantasy worlds on the back burner for ten years now - and I'm glad. I look back at some of the things I wrote at 15-20 and just shudder, because I would have been exactly in the same boat. "OH HAY THIS IS TOTALLY NOT BEETLEJUICE MEETS FRANK HERBERT'S DUNE AND TAD WILLIAM'S MEMORY SORROW, AND THORN TRILOGY, NOPE." Trust me, it was that bad.

As a Trope Library, the Inheritance Trilogy is great...but it could have been so much more, given more time, more experience, and a better editor.

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[info]the_mouse
2009-04-17 11:32 pm UTC (link)
To be fair to the guy, the publishing company his parents owned wasn't exactly the kind of company with the resources for making him a bestseller. They only got noticed because Carl Hiaasen's kid picked up one of their self-published copies while visiting Montana and told them about it. Their PR at first consisted of him going to schools all over the midwest and giving talks while wearing this outfit. Don't get me wrong, Eragon is crap, but he did work at selling it for a couple of years before it took off.

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[info]shinysandals
2009-04-17 11:44 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, I didn't word that properly; I didn't mean his parents had good PR. I meant the PR that came later, but I was getting too wordy as it was. :D It annoyed me with all the "15-YEAR-OLD AUTHOR!!!" flailing, when he was 19 when the Knopf publication we see now was finished. One too many "he wrote it when he was 15!" justifications get to me after a while.

Oh no, not that outfit again. *weep*

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[info]the_mouse
2009-04-19 11:08 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I know what you mean. I like how he's still a child prodigy even though he's 26. And the writing quality has only gotten worse since he was 15.

Come on! You know you love the beret!

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[info]adevyish
2009-04-18 07:06 am UTC (link)
I hate parents who believe their kid is the best thing ever and need to nurture their little genius for the kid's entire life.

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[info]ilinana
2009-04-16 11:40 pm UTC (link)
Eragon Wank Report

there's a lot of discussion in the comments here (and the wank itself) about Eragon/the author.

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