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ari_o ([info]ari_o) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-04-19 14:13:00


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Entry tags:author entitlement, baleetion, cult of nice, fandom: stargate, fanfic, flouncing, thoughts on yaoi, writers are often pompous douches

My concubines are lame. Drown them all!
SGA ficcer is not getting the acclaim she says she deserves. So she is going to delete her LJ. Her 560 "friends" are not fawning enough so what's the point?!

There are at least 60 comments on her epic fic's last two chapters now. I'm too lazy to figure out how many there were before she flipped out. Also she posted the last chapter only yesterday.

And the mea culpas pour in--three pages of "I'm sorry/I suck/Plz don't go."

>
And one of them thinks she can get some LOVE IF SHE FLOUNCES TOO!

When someone points out the flounce. [info]sardonicsmiley doesn't argue much.

And she is finally called on her tantrum.

LOL ENTITLEMENT DEBATE.

eta: WOT? "I'm turning commenting off until the last part, because otherwise that would just be too much."

So she turned commenting off and then bitched about no comments? O_o

eta2: All this for an alias change?


ETA3: BAHLEETION!! (saved pages below)

page 1, page 2, page 3, and expanded smackdown. And page 4 thanks to [info]longtimegone! :D




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(Anonymous)
2009-04-20 08:40 pm UTC (link)
I have to admit, I checked all the comments just to see if my favorite SGA writers had joined the embarrassing asskissing.
So glad they didn't!

Hi, seperis!

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-20 08:41 pm UTC (link)
PAGE 4 SAYS RODNEY MCKAY WOULD NEVER FLOUNCE THIS HALF-ASSED:

HE'D DELETED THE ENTIRE INTERNET!

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[info]stella_polaris
2009-04-20 11:21 pm UTC (link)
McKay wouldn't give a flying fuck about feedback, because everyone who commented was an idiot and didn't understand half of what he was saying, anyway. He doesn't need idiots to tell him he's a genius.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 05:52 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 06:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]emrinalexander, 2009-04-21 07:40 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 01:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stella_polaris, 2009-04-21 01:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-22 05:10 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 01:18 am UTC (link)
lol...I posted to her before she deleted her lj but I really hoped it didn't come off to everyone as ass kissing. I was honestly sad to see her just leave. But now after reading all of this......my god the wank......I don't know what to think.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 02:12 am UTC (link)
embarrassing asskissing

Yes, there was a lot of that, wasn't there? But I think for at least a few folks it was the result of confusion and shock at the unexpected venom of the post.

A couple of my friends initially responded with a (mature -- not "OMG I FAIL AT FANGIRLING YOU") confusion/sadness/desire to help if possible. Because they really liked her writing and they were sort of blindsided.

And then the Flounce Shock wore off and they went, "Wait, WTF?"

Their sympathy evaporated really fast. They can't have been the only ones, I think.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 02:56 am UTC (link)
God no....I think that I was one of those who went WTF afterwards. Especially in what I've been reading about the SPN flounce.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 05:20 am UTC (link)
at first I was shocked and given the pregnancy thing, my first response was O poor u *pets*

but then I realized that she'd told me to kiss her ass after I didn't comment on her sga fic cuz i came for spn but then it all disappeared. and it evaporated-- i felt like people calling her on her entitlement, plus ljfriend=/=friend, were totally right. but i felt uncomfortable supporting confrontation anonymously, and it woulda been weird to use my lj name to take back the o poor u. Flounce Shock--that's it exactly! with a very short half-life.

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So I'm a sadistic sodomistic necrophile...
[info]bacon_lover
2009-04-20 09:22 pm UTC (link)
...and like to beat dead horses.

http://seekergeek.livejournal.com/110505.html

This lj's post seems to say that sardonicsmiley had turned off comments for a while. Also, ss friended the poster back right before flouncing off...to make sure the flounce had full effect, I guess?

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Re: So I'm a sadistic sodomistic necrophile...
(Anonymous)
2009-04-20 10:17 pm UTC (link)
Also, ss friended the poster back right before flouncing off...to make sure the flounce had full effect, I guess?
Wow, that's pathetic.

And I can't help reading vida_boheme's comment like this:
"I stand by my original comment and I am not ashamed I let myself be guilt-tripped by ss and OH LOOK, FANDOM_WANK DID A STUPID!!11"

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Re: So I'm a sadistic sodomistic necrophile...
(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 03:10 am UTC (link)
No, I genuinely thought it was a hilarious definition - I'd like to see it become a complete alternative genre :D

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Re: So I'm a sadistic sodomistic necrophile... - [info]panthea, 2009-04-21 03:45 am UTC
Re: So I'm a sadistic sodomistic necrophile... - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 04:26 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 03:23 am UTC (link)
The funny thing is, I think I've read that writer's work (I lurk in SGA fandom). If I remember her stories correctly, she's an excellent writer. No denying it. However, she is clearly also incredibly spoiled, and from what I remember of her, she didn't do what I think (as a fanfic writer myself) is a courteous thing to do, which is to respond to the enthusiastic comments people left her about her stories. I may be wrong about that, but if not? Let's just say I won't be commenting on her fics at all in the future.

Sarah

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[info]iamtheenemy
2009-04-21 03:46 am UTC (link)
I liked some of it, especially when I needed a h/c fix, but the way she projected on Rodney's character was really embarrassing after a while. He became a pretty obvious Mary Sue for her issues.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 04:36 am UTC (link)
Hey, different anon from above, but I thought I'd add my 2 cents.

Even though your point has some validity, you could say the same about nearly every fanfic writer if you look... It may have gone just a tad overboard in her case towards the end, but:

- she is clearly aware of it
- nearly 50% of all active fanfic writers share this issue without actually being able to write as well as SardonicSmiley

And the bottom line?

If you liked her fic, it's still available. If you dislike it, no one is forcing you to read it.

But regarding her last post: this is the problem with social networks vs. archives because we are all human, so explosions like that can happen far too easily. Remember that she is actually very young, something that is difficult to remember when you read her fics which are very well written with a very adult voice.

I would estimate she is only about 22-23, and at nearly twice her age I am capable of reacting just as emotionally at times. I am just old enough and wary enough not to do it publicly, so no one can point and laugh. Oh and posting anonymously helps too...

:D

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 05:37 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 07:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-04-21 07:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2009-04-21 07:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-04-21 07:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2009-04-21 08:13 am UTC
(no subject) - ariadne484, 2009-04-21 03:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]agent_hyatt, 2009-04-21 07:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-04-21 08:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamtheenemy, 2009-04-21 08:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beachlass, 2009-04-21 08:57 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 09:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2009-04-21 09:36 am UTC
(no subject) - bigi, 2009-04-21 01:33 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 04:40 am UTC (link)
Every five seconds Rodney was falling over and scraping his knee so that Sheppard could run up and craddle him in his big strong arms and kiss his boo boo better. If that wasn't fic becoming My Parents Didn't Hug Me Enough As a Child therapy, then I don't know what is. That of course was followed up by People Were Mean to Me In High School therapy fic where Rodney's boyfriend protects him from the mean bullies.

If Rodney had been more OOCed and projected on Sheppard would have spent all his time running around getting feminine hygene products and asprin for Rodneyia's monthly cramps.

That's why sometimes not getting comments on your fic is a good thing.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 05:14 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-22 05:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beachlass, 2009-04-21 07:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-04-21 07:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beachlass, 2009-04-21 07:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ari_o, 2009-04-21 07:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-04-21 08:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darsynia, 2009-04-21 04:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-04-21 06:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darsynia, 2009-04-21 08:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-21 07:15 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]stella_polaris, 2009-04-21 03:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-04-21 07:55 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]iamtheenemy, 2009-04-21 07:41 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 06:50 am UTC (link)
ahaha, I would like to deny it, please! She is a TERRIBLE writer, her stories are boring, her characters are OOC, and she doesn't know one end of a sentence from the other. Her fic is some of the worst in SGA fandom, and I have never ever understood why so many people are into her. Good riddance, really. Less flotsam floating around sga_noticeboard with her gone.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 10:08 am UTC (link)
IAWTC

Since when is OTT wangst a hallmark of good writing?

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[info]squeakytoy
2009-04-21 03:27 pm UTC (link)
I have never ever understood why so many people are into her

She hits their kink?

That seems to be the usual reason for hugely popular writers who some people say are awesome and some people say are mediocre.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-22 02:28 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]squeakytoy, 2009-04-25 01:02 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 11:27 pm UTC (link)
I think what bothers me the most is the attitude in her reply to the last poster. the poster, seekergeek, says she's glad she got to download her favorite of the writer's fics, and the writer says, in effect:

"I wish I'd deleted it sooner" - in other words, wish you hadn't been able to save any of your favorite fics?

Major "fuck you" to her OWN FANS.

And I'm sorry - I do feel entitled. I don't happen to think that a creation, once released to the world, belongs exclusively to the creator. It also belongs to the people that love it. That's why it's risky. Creators can be arrogant (witness SGA, the show) - but the creators of the show never took away what they already gave us.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-22 04:57 pm UTC (link)
What the hell? Maybe the fact that she hasn't been posting for ages had something to do with the 'lack' of reviews? Does she expect us to keep checking in daily, after she drops of the face of the earth?

I caught those last chapters by pure chance AND I left a comment. Glad to see it was appreciated.

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[info]nehelenia
2009-04-23 01:44 pm UTC (link)
At least when Rodney does it, it's sexy.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-24 07:51 am UTC (link)
I feel more or less obligated by courtesy to respond to all comments on my stories. And I have about 700 people on my flist.

If all of them always commented on my stories, I would be beside myself with happiness, naturally.

And then I would shoot myself in the head.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-24 05:58 pm UTC (link)
I for one am glad she's gone. She's one of those writers who puts their own issues on Rodney making him into a wmimpy little baby who needs to be coddled and protected from the big bag world. Who seems to think that no one is allowed to EVER say ANYTHING the slightest bit mean or negative to or about Rodney because it might hurt his poor little feelings. Who acts as though he's the innocent victim of everyone else's bullying. Who basically says that low self esteem and insecurity excuses all bad behavior.

Rodney is an arrogant obnoxious ASS and he does NOT need defending by anyone. He can take care of himself and his feelings aren't being hurt every time someone tells him to shut the fuck up. HE NEEDS TO BE TOLD TO SHUT UP SO THAT HE DOES HIS FUCKING JOB!

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-24 06:39 pm UTC (link)
Oooh, someone has issues of her own - sweet!

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[info]raynedanser
2009-04-25 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Huh. Wow. My fic got 1, MAYBE 2 comments and I was just happy for that. I wrote it because I enjoyed it, not because I expected pages and pages of comments (also? Let's hear it for wee, obscure fandoms).

Good grief. I GET personal shit. I do. But to take it out on fandom throw such a snit over it? Get a grip.

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[info]raynedanser
2009-04-25 05:18 pm UTC (link)
Ok, that should have been picfor1000 fic but the code got eaten. *sigh*

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