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Caito Potato ([info]caito) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-04-21 18:42:00


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The Russet Doom Saga, Part IV
In Part III, we saw what happened when Lady Sybilla tried to tangle with the Twilight Lexicon mods for the last time (they banned her), and watched in awe as Wikipedia users worked "around the clock" to get her Russet Noon article deleted. You can still find "The Wikipedia Wars" linked on the Russet Noon website, but you'll have to scroll down past...

The FanHistory Wars.
A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away....

Artistic revolution (who, for reasons which will become blatantly obvious, is a suspected sockpuppet of Lady Sybilla) edited the shit out of the Russet Noon fanhistory page. Artistic revolution has a pretty one-track mind, it would appear. Or two-track, if you count Lady Sybilla as a separate topic.

In the midst of all those edits, there was no shortage of information about me, Sybilla's own favorite "stalkarazzo." (I know I'm her favorite, she says so herself on the Russet Noon website.) The following information is culled from the Revision as of 00:27, 21 April 2009 version of the page.
Although Caito posted the email text on one of her many Journalfen pages, her only acknowledgment of Sybilla's concerns was: "I'm totally over this email business. I have a spam filter and I intend to use it. If someone wants to continue discussing this shiz, she can do so in the comments like everybody else." Strange reaction given that Caito's Whois record for her site openly discloses her gmail address:
At this point, Artistic revolution somehow thought it was appropriate to include my mailing address and contact information. Yes, in the middle of the article for Russet Noon. But that's not all! She did go on. I bolded my favorite parts!
More recently, Caito provided us with a video example of how the attention-whoring for which she mocks Sybilla is more contagious than a disease. Ironically, while she spends her valuable time making fun of the ''Russet Noon'' author for trying to exploit Stephenie Meyer's popularity, Caito, too, seems to be riding the wave of the ''Russet Noon'' obsession. And she does so quite gracefully. If it weren't for Caito, ''Russet Noon'' would have never achieved taboo status.

... On April 3, 2009, LadySybilla emailed Caito and asked her to stop her "online stalking activities." On this email, Sybilla warned, "If you don't, I will notify as many administrators as I have to until they take action." Sybilla then contacted the Journalfen technical support team to ask how she could contact an administrator in order to report libelous accusations posted by some of their users. But, instead of responding to Sybilla's concerns, the JournalFen support team (if, in fact, there is one) forwarded a copy of the email to Caito. This incident may or may not prompt internet users to wonder about the legitimacy of Journalfen. Is Journalfen an actual company? If it is, who are the tech support staff and/or administrators behind it?

... Judging by the look of things, it won't be Sybilla who will be profiting off of ''Russet Noon'' sales after all. Let's see what happens when Caito and her BFFs at Twilight Lexicon get their hands on a copy of the novel in September.
All that has since been nuked from the actual FanHistory page, and replaced with more evenhanded material. People here at FW went a little flaily for a bit, as a software snafu made it appear as though FH mod Sidewinder had been the one to add my personal info when she'd really just meant to take it down.*

Then the mods brought the hurt down on Artistic revolution, who has been banned from editing the wiki for two whole weeks! She's really sorry, though, guys. Please stop throwing stones at her, and let her catapult boulders at others in peace.

But it's not like Artistic revolution has been the only one tooling with it, either. Some anons got in and tweaked it ever so slightly, like changing the story summary simply to "OH JOHN RINGO NO!" Editing the Russet Noon article is temporarily locked to admins, due to anon vandalizing and a neutrality dispute.

Personal notes:
  1. I do not know what end anyone would hope to achieve by posting my address.
  2. I'm not BFFs or even BFs or even just Fs with the TwiLex mods, but I sure do like them more than I like Lady Sybilla.
  3. I have no clue how I would stand to profit from anything having to do with Russet Noon.
  4. I have no idea who Lee Thomas even is.
*Aside to FanHistory folks: Thanks. I really appreciate what you did. Do me one more solid? I did respond to Lady Sybilla's concerns about my "accusations", but I guess it got lost in the epic wave of comments. Like I said before, Lady Sybilla is welcome to come engage me in comments, but as far as I know she has yet to do so. Muchos gracias.

ETA
: Artistic revolution rides forth on teal deer to appeal to Laura's professionalism.

ETA 2: Laura responds!

ETA 3: The Russet Noon website is now basically a hate shrine dedicated to me and FH mod Sidewinder, complete with Photoshopped screencaps of me interacting with people I've never actually interacted with. Oh, and also my contact information.

You know, I'm starting to get the feeling that she doesn't take criticism very well.

ETA
4: From Artistic revolution's usertalk page:
I'm not interested in antagonizing you. You have been objective, but I still have to insist that Sidewinder, whoever she is, hasn't been. She might not have the same IP address as Caito, but her editing patterns are dubious. I have listed the evidence on my website because I'm blocked from doing so here. If I'm not allowed to edit the article, then at least Sidewinder should also be prevented from tampering with it any further.

All in all, as I said before, I'm not interested in antagonizing you. Based on your reasons for why Wikipedia blacklisted FH, I know you can understand how I feel in regards to Russet Noon. I have seen that your procedures reflect professionalism. This is why I appealed to that.

I sincerely apologized to both you and Tikatu, but never received a reply. At least at Wikipedia they lifted the ban. Sure, they deleted the article, but they were reasonable enough to lift the ban. I'm sorry if the procedure I followed to try to negotiate with you guys was not what you expected.

I would much rather have you delete the Russet Noon article altogether than to continue with this conflict.
Once again, it is not my intention to antagonize you.
So, yeah, Artistic revolution is almost certainly Lady Sybilla.

ETA 5
: The hate shrine is now down from the Russet Noon site. It's been replaced with a paragraph about how "the wars have ceased" and the rest is now ostensibly about the fanfic again.

ETA 4-24 7:22am Tokyo time
: In case anyone was wondering how Lady Sybilla was taking the news about Peter David's community parody-in-progress, here's the reaction from her twitter:
# it's an honor even though it's a satire, because Peter David is a very seasoned writer
4 minutes ago from web

# many fanfic writers of the net will be uniting to write Potato Moon. The creator is comic book author Peter David
4 minutes ago from web

# let's hope this communal novel will inspire many more to come. I'd love to see a serious thriller or drama like this
7 minutes ago from web

# communal novels are a new genre, there are not many of them that I know of. I'm very curious to read Potato Moon.
8 minutes ago from web

# I'm very proud to announce that Russet Noon has inspired a very unique parody, Potato Moon. It's a communal novel
8 minutes ago from web
The Russet Noon website has also changed. It no longer makes mention of any "wars" whatsoever.

ETA 7: "You are invited to read our latest press release, "Lady Sybilla: The Darth Vader of Fandom."* It appears that Russet Noon has already achieved taboo status without having even been released yet. That's what happens when a Darth Vader figure like Lady Sybilla is created. And now she's found a worthy opponent: Peter David."

*That link goes to a c&p in my journal. To view the original (and give LS more hits) click here.

ETA 8: Her tweeting continues, c&ped here.

ETA 9: The first part of Potato Moon is up... I have a FanHistory page now, and actually I kind of like it, especially the graphic and its caption... and yes, my little lolcats, you can has more ONTD.

ETA 10: She just updated the Russet Noon site again (screencapped here), linking to the articles that appeared on Comicmix and IMDB. (Except her IMDB link actually goes here, where you have to scroll down halfway down the page the relevant blurb.)

ETA 11
: Peter David's Potato Moon has its own Wikipedia page! It is a thing of true beauty and you will never, ever guess who started it. But to avoid the situation that occurred the last time she wrote articles on Wikipedia, she's asked another user to edit the Potato Moon article for her. And he is (adding links to the Potato Moon blog entries, at least)! He just wants to know more about who AV Paranormal is. This should go well, I think.

ETA 12: She's linked to something on the Wall Street Journal site now. What the lemonfresh hell?



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[info]racetrack
2009-04-30 09:33 am UTC (link)
Oh yes Lady Syb, you are the next step in fandom evolution, in a world where copyright violations aren't even violations and we're all part of a collective known as the borg universal mind.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-30 10:56 pm UTC (link)
Resistance to the wank is futile...

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tetradecimal
2009-05-01 08:00 am UTC (link)
So what does Sybbie evolve to, the Final Boss of the Internet? I haven't gotten mine to change at all. Maybe I need a moonstone or something.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-30 10:16 am UTC (link)
ah, page sixteen...

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mockygogo
2009-04-30 07:25 pm UTC (link)
shouldn't there be comic strips and a crossword puzzle on page 16? And horoscopes?

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(no subject) - [info]lirazel, 2009-04-30 07:35 pm UTC
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(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-05-01 04:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]charamei, 2009-05-01 04:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-05-01 06:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-03 12:29 pm UTC

[info]sumire
2009-04-30 12:09 pm UTC (link)
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to CHANGE."

LS hears it jangling in Stephenie Meyer's purse and comes running.

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[info]uldihaa
2009-04-30 04:26 pm UTC (link)
Guess we can add social/biological evolution to the list of 'Things Lady Sybilla Does Not Understand'?

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-30 07:01 pm UTC (link)
The funniest thing about Twilight's depiction of NA people is its insistence that if some shape-shifting creature was roaming the wilds one night and coming home as that man Joe the next, that natives wouldn't kill it for being a murderous and creepy supernatural jerkass.

Really, the werewolves shouldn't have even existed.

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[info]issendai
2009-05-01 01:02 am UTC (link)
Is this wank actually winding down? Oh, Sybilla, say it isn't so! You have so much more batshit to give the world!

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[info]caito
2009-05-01 01:06 am UTC (link)
I've been checking up on Google lately, and her mentions have definitely been on the downslide. It seems entirely possible that this whole dramatic shebang may just die with a whimper.

(Until September, o' course.)

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(no subject) - [info]darth_buttocks, 2009-05-01 04:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2009-05-01 06:01 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-01 07:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darth_buttocks, 2009-05-01 03:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-01 03:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyndra_falin, 2009-05-01 06:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]insanitys_place, 2009-05-01 08:27 pm UTC
So sorry T.S. So sorry. - [info]melkahb, 2009-05-01 07:23 am UTC
Re: So sorry T.S. So sorry. - [info]caito, 2009-05-01 07:26 am UTC
Re: So sorry T.S. So sorry. - [info]melkahb, 2009-05-01 09:19 am UTC

[info]jujubee
2009-05-01 07:18 am UTC (link)
Uh oh. Someone is trolling the wank. Bottom of the page. This RC person also edited the article itself with a grudewank warning.

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[info]caito
2009-05-01 07:21 am UTC (link)
The Potato Moon article has GRUDGEWANK ALERT across the top of it.

Like that's neither grudgy nor wanky in and of itself.

(Hilariously, it took me a little while of looking at the page to figure out what was suddenly different about it.)

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-05-01 08:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-01 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]insanitys_place, 2009-05-01 10:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beachlass, 2009-05-02 03:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-05-02 06:30 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-05-01 01:19 pm UTC (link)
From LS's website-
"A human being is a part of the whole that we call the universe, a part limited in time and space. And yet we experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings, as something separated from the rest - a kind of optical illusion of our consciousness. This illusion is a prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for only the few people nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living beings and all of nature."
Albert Einstein


"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and i'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein


CatChester

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-03 12:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-03 07:49 pm UTC

[info]caito
2009-05-01 02:22 pm UTC (link)
Today in the mail I got a POSTCARD from a WANKA.

Bestest thing ever.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-01 02:28 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]freya, 2009-05-02 01:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]caito, 2009-05-02 03:10 pm UTC

[info]jellibean
2009-05-02 04:59 am UTC (link)
I have no clue how I would stand to profit from anything having to do with Russet Noon.

I have no clue how Lady Sybilla</a> could stand to profit from anything having to do with Russet Noon...

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(no subject) - [info]jellibean, 2009-05-02 04:59 am UTC
Now that we've hit page 16...
(Anonymous)
2009-05-03 12:37 pm UTC (link)
How many pages of comments does this make in total, counting the other two wank reports? I'd go back and check but I'm cripplingly lazy.

What's the record? Probably CrystalWank, right?

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Re: Now that we've hit page 16... - [info]floridianmouse, 2009-05-07 04:57 pm UTC

[info]insanitys_place
2009-05-03 10:20 pm UTC (link)
Looks like IceCreamEmpress is trying to edit the Potato Moon article into something interesting/significant.
Meanwhile on the talk page an anon is wondering why the crap this page is allowed to continue to exist.

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She's made it to TV Tropes
(Anonymous)
2009-05-04 05:09 am UTC (link)
16 pages was too much to look up and check if anyone posted about this before, so just in case here it is. Lady S is under the Small Name Big Ego section of TV tropes:

"Aaaaaand we now have the QUEEN of this trope for Twilight fandom: Lady Sybilla, whom no one had apparently ever even heard of before in the fandom before she became the writer (and attempted publisher) of "tribute sequel" Russet Noon, and convinced the entire internet is made up of one person with a grudge against her after the fandom at large and fandom_wank told her that her understanding of copyright was... flawed at best. She was banned from The Other Wiki after refusing to believe that her "highly controversial" unreleased fanfic wasn't notable enough and continually reinstated its article. Try to read the Russet Doom Saga in all its glory and not boggle."

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SmallNameBigEgo

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Re: She's made it to TV Tropes - mockygogo, 2009-05-04 10:59 pm UTC
Re: She's made it to TV Tropes - (Anonymous), 2009-05-05 04:59 am UTC
Re: She's made it to TV Tropes - (Anonymous), 2009-05-05 04:11 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-05-05 11:59 am UTC (link)
Russet Noon has a new quote:

She looks happy in his arms, doesn't she? Good, 'cause that's where she belongs.

"You call it madness, but I call it love."

Don Byas


^This makes me think Sybs is just another disgruntled shipper who didn't get what they wanted.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-05 01:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-05-05 09:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]melkahb, 2009-05-06 04:49 am UTC

[info]issendai
2009-05-05 10:25 pm UTC (link)
An update from Tikatu's talk page on the FH wiki:
Russet Noon Update on Cover Image

Hi, Tikatu. I noticed you've been the most frequent editor of the Russet Noon article, so I'm sending you an update on the "Blood Roses" image by Charli Siebert. I just received an email from her, informing me that she does not want me to use her image for the cover of the book.

Charli wrote to Sybilla: "Unfortunately, I do not give out permission for use of my work in any way, so you'll have to find another cover for your book."

Charli also added, "All of your advertising and marketing of the book containing the image will need to be removed from any and all publications. This includes all print advertising and websites that display the image. If there are websites that you are aware of that are displaying the book cover in question, it is your responsibility to contact them and inform them that they need to remove the image from their site."

Based on Charli's specific request, I am asking that you please remove the old Russet Noon cover currently on display in the article. And, if it's not too much to ask, please add a note to the article to confirm that Russet Noon will have a new cover image before it gets published. Please let me know if you need me to upload a screencap of Charli's email as proof.

Last part of the update is that Charli and I are in negotiations to have her create a new image exclusively for the new Russet Noon cover.

Thanks very much.

Artistic revolution 07:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Gotta wonder what those "negotiations" look like.

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(Anonymous)
2009-05-06 01:03 am UTC (link)
Appologies of this has already been pointed out earlier, but lazy mouse is lazy... and doesn't want to dig through comments to check.

This link here (http://www.prlog.org/10223460-lady-sybilla-the-darth-vader-of-fandom.html) to the the original version of LS's nuttery press release is giving me an error message. I'm pretty sure the original has been deleted.

(not like people truly want to feed the crazy with more hits, but it's still something to note...)

~inioranackatori from LJ

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(no subject) - [info]insanitys_place, 2009-05-06 04:35 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-06 05:12 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-05-06 06:26 am UTC (link)
3,000th?

I can't help but wonder what LS will do next, because she's the poster child for "not getting it."

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[info]moljn
2009-05-06 08:20 am UTC (link)
And now she's editing the Potato Moon page on Wiki to include Russet Noon by name (how has that page not been deleted yet?). Because it must all be about her and hers, dammit.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-05-07 05:49 am UTC

[info]darth_buttocks
2009-05-06 08:26 pm UTC (link)
Sybsie's updated the site again. Now she has a pic of Taylor Lautner and Kristen Stewart all cosy together and the text:
She looks happy in his arms, doesn't she? Good, 'cause that's where she belongs.

"You call it madness, but I call it love." Don Byas


I think we can add reality in general to the list of things she dosen't get.

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(Anonymous)
2009-05-10 12:51 pm UTC (link)
I'd assumed that this had all died, but apparently not - http://www.prlog.org/10233245-lady-sybilla-apologizes-to-stephenie-meyer-for-writing-russet-noon.html (because if you don't release a press release everytime you act, how is anyone going to know?)

~ Dria

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