Re: In Which Sybs Gets a Smackdown from the Moderators
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Please don't take offense, but may I ask why Wikipedia has your site blacklisted?

Wikipedia has our site black listed because back when I was first learning how to promote, I inappropriately added links to Wikipedia projects. When I was told to stop, I ignored them. Lesson learned. I later talked to Brion Vibber and others involved with Wikipedia at RecentChangesCamp 2008 about that and if we could get unblacklisted. They explained to us that Wikipedia does not consider wikis to be valid sources of information, to be good sources. Subsequently, even had I not done gone about link spamming, we would never have been allowed as a source because of that. It is just how Wikipedia operates and it is also a lesson in what happens when you break the rules. There are consequences and we are suffering them as a result. --Laura 17:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

In regards to the Russet Noon article, on one hand, you seem to be suggesting that Sidewinder has no vested interest in it. You say her name is Nicole and that you know her. On the other hand, though, you point out that FH wants no connection to fandom wank.

Wanting "no connection" does not equal never referencing fandom_wank if and when it happens to be the most thorough source of information on an issue of importance to fandom as a whole. Fan History does not intend to compete with the Fandom Wank and its wiki. Fan History and Fandom Wank maintain separate interests, goals, and policies in regards to the wiki and the general community. Our admin team, through our actions on the wiki, try to avoid being subject to wank on fandom_wank and creating further wank which negatively impacts Fan History. But when a kerfluffle or wank becomes of widespread interest and attention in fandom, we cannot simply "ignore" fandom_wank as a useful source of information, timeline data, and links. Just because we cite them does not mean we are trying to become a featured subject on fandom_wank. It creates too many credibility problems for us. --Laura 17:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

And yet, having reviewed Sidewinder's edits, I can see that she only adds edits that reflect Caito's POV, not to mention links to wank postings.

Sidewinder pulled many of the links through simple Google searches where these were the top links that were being references throughout the internet. (The links that she pulled are the same ones I pulled up when I googled "Russet Noon" to see what all this was about for myself when admins brought it to my attention.) Sidewinder also included and/or protected press releases that presented LS's point of view in order to help provide a fair and unbiased accounting of events. If there are other links out there that present the other side of the story more accurately, we welcome their addition. But we're not going to remove links from sources that don't favor her or that are not fundamentally neutral. The goal of an article like Russet Noon is to present both perspectives. And in addition to that, our philosophy is Move, don't remove. --Laura 17:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Is it a coincidence that Caito herself has admitted to have been editing the Russet Noon article? If Sidewinder is not Caito, or one of Caito's sockpuppets, then what is Caito's username? Are you sure Sidewinder's account is not related to Caito's?

Actually, Caito does admit to NOT having edited, and offers her IP address as proof. Her IP address would not match that of Sidewinder who has given me permission, should I want it, to share that to prove that she is not Caito. Caito is, as your whois information says, from Japan. Sidewinder's IP is not pulling from the same continent. --Laura 18:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
The chances of Caito having been a sock, or even a close friend of Sidewinder, and would manipulate this all for LULZ and to attack you are slim to none. If you want more information why, I suggest checking out metafandom's fanhistory:expose tag. Our relationship with fandom_wank doesn't lend itself to that sort of conspiracy. --Laura 18:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)