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Caito Potato ([info]caito) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-04-21 18:42:00


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The Russet Doom Saga, Part IV
In Part III, we saw what happened when Lady Sybilla tried to tangle with the Twilight Lexicon mods for the last time (they banned her), and watched in awe as Wikipedia users worked "around the clock" to get her Russet Noon article deleted. You can still find "The Wikipedia Wars" linked on the Russet Noon website, but you'll have to scroll down past...

The FanHistory Wars.
A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away....

Artistic revolution (who, for reasons which will become blatantly obvious, is a suspected sockpuppet of Lady Sybilla) edited the shit out of the Russet Noon fanhistory page. Artistic revolution has a pretty one-track mind, it would appear. Or two-track, if you count Lady Sybilla as a separate topic.

In the midst of all those edits, there was no shortage of information about me, Sybilla's own favorite "stalkarazzo." (I know I'm her favorite, she says so herself on the Russet Noon website.) The following information is culled from the Revision as of 00:27, 21 April 2009 version of the page.
Although Caito posted the email text on one of her many Journalfen pages, her only acknowledgment of Sybilla's concerns was: "I'm totally over this email business. I have a spam filter and I intend to use it. If someone wants to continue discussing this shiz, she can do so in the comments like everybody else." Strange reaction given that Caito's Whois record for her site openly discloses her gmail address:
At this point, Artistic revolution somehow thought it was appropriate to include my mailing address and contact information. Yes, in the middle of the article for Russet Noon. But that's not all! She did go on. I bolded my favorite parts!
More recently, Caito provided us with a video example of how the attention-whoring for which she mocks Sybilla is more contagious than a disease. Ironically, while she spends her valuable time making fun of the ''Russet Noon'' author for trying to exploit Stephenie Meyer's popularity, Caito, too, seems to be riding the wave of the ''Russet Noon'' obsession. And she does so quite gracefully. If it weren't for Caito, ''Russet Noon'' would have never achieved taboo status.

... On April 3, 2009, LadySybilla emailed Caito and asked her to stop her "online stalking activities." On this email, Sybilla warned, "If you don't, I will notify as many administrators as I have to until they take action." Sybilla then contacted the Journalfen technical support team to ask how she could contact an administrator in order to report libelous accusations posted by some of their users. But, instead of responding to Sybilla's concerns, the JournalFen support team (if, in fact, there is one) forwarded a copy of the email to Caito. This incident may or may not prompt internet users to wonder about the legitimacy of Journalfen. Is Journalfen an actual company? If it is, who are the tech support staff and/or administrators behind it?

... Judging by the look of things, it won't be Sybilla who will be profiting off of ''Russet Noon'' sales after all. Let's see what happens when Caito and her BFFs at Twilight Lexicon get their hands on a copy of the novel in September.
All that has since been nuked from the actual FanHistory page, and replaced with more evenhanded material. People here at FW went a little flaily for a bit, as a software snafu made it appear as though FH mod Sidewinder had been the one to add my personal info when she'd really just meant to take it down.*

Then the mods brought the hurt down on Artistic revolution, who has been banned from editing the wiki for two whole weeks! She's really sorry, though, guys. Please stop throwing stones at her, and let her catapult boulders at others in peace.

But it's not like Artistic revolution has been the only one tooling with it, either. Some anons got in and tweaked it ever so slightly, like changing the story summary simply to "OH JOHN RINGO NO!" Editing the Russet Noon article is temporarily locked to admins, due to anon vandalizing and a neutrality dispute.

Personal notes:
  1. I do not know what end anyone would hope to achieve by posting my address.
  2. I'm not BFFs or even BFs or even just Fs with the TwiLex mods, but I sure do like them more than I like Lady Sybilla.
  3. I have no clue how I would stand to profit from anything having to do with Russet Noon.
  4. I have no idea who Lee Thomas even is.
*Aside to FanHistory folks: Thanks. I really appreciate what you did. Do me one more solid? I did respond to Lady Sybilla's concerns about my "accusations", but I guess it got lost in the epic wave of comments. Like I said before, Lady Sybilla is welcome to come engage me in comments, but as far as I know she has yet to do so. Muchos gracias.

ETA
: Artistic revolution rides forth on teal deer to appeal to Laura's professionalism.

ETA 2: Laura responds!

ETA 3: The Russet Noon website is now basically a hate shrine dedicated to me and FH mod Sidewinder, complete with Photoshopped screencaps of me interacting with people I've never actually interacted with. Oh, and also my contact information.

You know, I'm starting to get the feeling that she doesn't take criticism very well.

ETA
4: From Artistic revolution's usertalk page:
I'm not interested in antagonizing you. You have been objective, but I still have to insist that Sidewinder, whoever she is, hasn't been. She might not have the same IP address as Caito, but her editing patterns are dubious. I have listed the evidence on my website because I'm blocked from doing so here. If I'm not allowed to edit the article, then at least Sidewinder should also be prevented from tampering with it any further.

All in all, as I said before, I'm not interested in antagonizing you. Based on your reasons for why Wikipedia blacklisted FH, I know you can understand how I feel in regards to Russet Noon. I have seen that your procedures reflect professionalism. This is why I appealed to that.

I sincerely apologized to both you and Tikatu, but never received a reply. At least at Wikipedia they lifted the ban. Sure, they deleted the article, but they were reasonable enough to lift the ban. I'm sorry if the procedure I followed to try to negotiate with you guys was not what you expected.

I would much rather have you delete the Russet Noon article altogether than to continue with this conflict.
Once again, it is not my intention to antagonize you.
So, yeah, Artistic revolution is almost certainly Lady Sybilla.

ETA 5
: The hate shrine is now down from the Russet Noon site. It's been replaced with a paragraph about how "the wars have ceased" and the rest is now ostensibly about the fanfic again.

ETA 4-24 7:22am Tokyo time
: In case anyone was wondering how Lady Sybilla was taking the news about Peter David's community parody-in-progress, here's the reaction from her twitter:
# it's an honor even though it's a satire, because Peter David is a very seasoned writer
4 minutes ago from web

# many fanfic writers of the net will be uniting to write Potato Moon. The creator is comic book author Peter David
4 minutes ago from web

# let's hope this communal novel will inspire many more to come. I'd love to see a serious thriller or drama like this
7 minutes ago from web

# communal novels are a new genre, there are not many of them that I know of. I'm very curious to read Potato Moon.
8 minutes ago from web

# I'm very proud to announce that Russet Noon has inspired a very unique parody, Potato Moon. It's a communal novel
8 minutes ago from web
The Russet Noon website has also changed. It no longer makes mention of any "wars" whatsoever.

ETA 7: "You are invited to read our latest press release, "Lady Sybilla: The Darth Vader of Fandom."* It appears that Russet Noon has already achieved taboo status without having even been released yet. That's what happens when a Darth Vader figure like Lady Sybilla is created. And now she's found a worthy opponent: Peter David."

*That link goes to a c&p in my journal. To view the original (and give LS more hits) click here.

ETA 8: Her tweeting continues, c&ped here.

ETA 9: The first part of Potato Moon is up... I have a FanHistory page now, and actually I kind of like it, especially the graphic and its caption... and yes, my little lolcats, you can has more ONTD.

ETA 10: She just updated the Russet Noon site again (screencapped here), linking to the articles that appeared on Comicmix and IMDB. (Except her IMDB link actually goes here, where you have to scroll down halfway down the page the relevant blurb.)

ETA 11
: Peter David's Potato Moon has its own Wikipedia page! It is a thing of true beauty and you will never, ever guess who started it. But to avoid the situation that occurred the last time she wrote articles on Wikipedia, she's asked another user to edit the Potato Moon article for her. And he is (adding links to the Potato Moon blog entries, at least)! He just wants to know more about who AV Paranormal is. This should go well, I think.

ETA 12: She's linked to something on the Wall Street Journal site now. What the lemonfresh hell?


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[info]notjo
2009-04-21 01:45 pm UTC (link)
She posted your address?

Wow.

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[info]caito
2009-04-21 01:49 pm UTC (link)
And phone number.

Isn't that, like, the one thing fandom doesn't do to each other?

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[info]mooncalf
2009-04-21 01:56 pm UTC (link)
And Lady Sybilla has such a firm grasp on the nuances of fandom etiquette. Really.

Oyyyy.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 04:13 pm UTC (link)
Wow, it's Mooncalf :D. I used to read your Star Ocean and Vagrant Story fics. They were great.

@Tetra

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[info]white_tean
2009-04-21 02:54 pm UTC (link)
She doesn't seem to have a very firm grasp of basic boundaries.
You know, like copyright infringement, and not intentionally making someone else's personal contact information readily available on the internet against their will and sense of personal saftey. She's bananas.

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[info]notjo
2009-04-21 03:04 pm UTC (link)
:(

So... can we make pathetic jokes about this part, or would you rather we didn't? (I don't know how I'd feel if it were my phone number, so I can't imagine how anyone else would.)

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[info]caito
2009-04-21 03:13 pm UTC (link)
It's my cell phone number, and I can neither dial outside of Japan nor receive calls from outside of Japan with it. (I can never remember my own home phone number anyway, and I just use Skype for international calls.) So joke away, 'tis funny.

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[info]notjo
2009-04-21 04:28 pm UTC (link)
So, you're sayig I can't use this information to start calling you in the middle of (my) night and ask you pointed questions about your relationship with the JF-owners? WHAT IS THE POINT OF THAT?

you have ruined my fun, Caito, you... you... potato you!

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[info]lady_ganesh
2009-04-21 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Okay, now it's gotten a bit funnier again. I'm glad you're not in the States though, as I suspect things could get nastier far more quickly.

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[info]caito
2009-04-21 08:16 pm UTC (link)
Too true. Ilu, Pacific Ocean <3

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[info]lady_ganesh
2009-04-21 08:24 pm UTC (link)
Is anyone reading Twilight in Japan? I know Harry Potter was big but this is a different phenomenon in any number of ways.

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(no subject) - [info]caito, 2009-04-21 08:28 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]lady_ganesh, 2009-04-22 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adevyish, 2009-04-22 07:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nyonyo, 2009-04-22 04:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2009-04-23 05:54 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ruffwriter, 2009-04-22 02:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dreamer_marie, 2009-04-27 01:06 pm UTC

[info]bride_of_lister
2009-04-21 02:21 pm UTC (link)
What exactly did she think that would do? The only thing it did was make everyone hate her more and the mods lay a smackdown on her account.

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[info]caito
2009-04-21 02:25 pm UTC (link)
The only thing I can think of that actually makes sense is that she thought it might scare me. Except it got taken down so fast, I didn't see it myself. I found it through backtracking and screencapping. (Good on the FH mods there, as far as I'm concerned.)

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[info]bride_of_lister
2009-04-21 02:48 pm UTC (link)
She could turn up at your house and whinge at you! Oh noes!

(It's good to see that the FH mods are on the ball, I didn't really expect much from them.)

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[info]caito
2009-04-21 03:02 pm UTC (link)
(I don't think they want to have a tangle with FW again. But at the same time I <3 them a little for honking up on the bullshit so readily. But at the same time I'm kinda drunk. Um.

Fandom Wank, FanHistory, Lee Goldberg... that Sybsy, she's a uniter.

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[info]caito
2009-04-21 03:02 pm UTC (link)
I DID PARENTHESES WRONG.

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(no subject) - scifantasy, 2009-04-21 03:06 pm UTC

[info]bride_of_lister
2009-04-21 03:08 pm UTC (link)
They might have been thinking of the internet lawyer side of things too. Drunk is certainly the best way to look at the whole thing, maybe it will go away after the 4th Baileys.

If she keeps this up she may unite the intertubes! (Unfortunately then the world would end in an implosion of cat macro)

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(no subject) - [info]dico, 2009-04-21 03:12 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]dico, 2009-04-21 03:15 pm UTC

[info]jkefka
2009-04-21 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Truly this is an unholy alliance against a fucking stupid foe.

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[info]ashacrone
2009-04-22 02:11 am UTC (link)
It's... it's like Magneto, Apocolypse and Galactus coming together to fight a de-awesomed Squirrel Girl.
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But thank goodness she's not Squirrel Girl. Then the universe would be doomed.

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[info]feenix
2009-04-21 03:40 pm UTC (link)
That's what I'm saying. Just...wow.

Stay classy, Lady S!

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-21 07:58 pm UTC (link)
On the plus side, if it ever comes up I can make good on my eternal interweb threat of mailing people delicious chewy brownies.

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[info]caito
2009-04-21 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Well, if you want my address, you know who to ask!

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[info]arielchan
2009-04-24 07:52 am UTC (link)
Damn. If it's that big a deal, I'm going to start giving out your address on every Wiki page I edit.



Which at this point would be... 1. It was about some ancient Roman dude because my Latin prof asked us to find out 3 facts about him and said we could use Wiki. So my classmates and I all edited his article. Born in New Jersey. Invented the wheel. Then we printed screenshots before the admins changed it back.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-24 10:29 am UTC (link)
So my classmates and I all edited his article. Born in New Jersey. Invented the wheel. Then we printed screenshots before the admins changed it back.

I feel an irresistible urge to fangirl and/or copy you. Want lip gloss from this unworthy one? All you need to do is let some asshat post your personal address on teh interweb, and you shall have it.

-redmouse

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[info]melkahb
2009-04-22 03:03 am UTC (link)
Wait, we can get brownies out of this?

No one told me there'd be brownies!!

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