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NM ([info]narcissam) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-04-27 10:14:00


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Entry tags:fandom: harry potter, interrogating from the wrong perspective, jkr doesn't know harry potter like i do, my pretension let me show you it, oppression, persecution, potter fandom will not be outwanked!, racism, slytherfen, thoughts on yaoi, what the shit is this?, whut, wtf mate

Cry the Beloved Slytherins
I thought I'd pop in and see what HP fandom is up to this day. And, whatdayaknow? My favourite Slytherfen are still around. [info]angakkuq posted about this here for [info]the_hms_stfu

The title Rehumanizing the Slytherins: How Fandom Gave Humanity Back to a Quarter of the Wizarding World" made me weepy, albeit because I was laughing so hard. The linked essay is only a precis of the 20 page "academic presentation" [info]sagedarkwoods gave. It's pretty standard pretentious fan meta, with headings such as "Queering the Slytherin Identity". (To her credit, there's no argument being made that being a Slytherin is just like being gay, only that some fans see it that way.)

The comments, on the other hand.... I'll just excerpt my favourite:

losyark:The essay is about stereotyping in literature and the dangers it presents for those readers who cannot find a self-representative character within the 'hero' cadre, and so ends up identifying with the periphery characters. For those readers, it is dangerous because if they're not abnormally intelligent or pretty, or heroic and action-based, then there is nobody among the heroes for them to equate themselves with. This causes self-esteem issues and mental health problems. Yes, it's easy to put the book down and go read another, but the fact is that what began as a simple child's books where the Slytherins were the opposition to the heros but by no means the villians (which meade it safe for them to identify with), then grew into a flawed adult novel that relied heavily on ham-fisted stereotyping to define the sides in a war.

This meant that people first identified with Slythering house and THEN were slapped in the face with its label.

This is like a black person reading a novel where all the blacks are called filthy niggers and they're gansters who rape and steal and there's no positive characters with which the black reader to identify. What does a book like that do to your self-image?

The OTHER point of this essay, the main thrust, is that the endangered readers are REJECTING this label. They are doing so by, as I did above, anylizing character motivation and realizing that while those evil/Death Eater Characters were in Slytherin, that doesn't make the house (and presumably 25% of the British Wizarding poulation) evil. They are reminding themselves, like you say, that before Riddle Slytherins were Ambitious and Clever and the Sorting Hat never once called them Self-Serving or Evil. They are accounting for the evil in their house by pointing out how it was FAMILIES who were Death Eaters, not HOUSES, and children grew up into regimes and beleifs that they didn't realize at the time were socially wrong - like the children of Nazi Germany. They are accounting for evil in their midst in a very human and compassionate way. They are, like gay people and the terms "faggot" and "queer", repossesing a previously negative slur and turning it positive.


ETA: Bonus Wank:How Would Harry Potter Judge Susan Boyle? in which it is revealed that Snape is just like Susan Boyle, and Harry is Simon Cowell, but meaner. On the other hand, JKR is Simon Cowell, because JKR has had makeovers, and Cowell arranges makeovers. (Hat tip to [info]mariem_1 for links in her own post.)



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(Anonymous)
2009-04-27 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Um, i dont identify with anyone in HP, I'm not a kid, i'm not a man, i'm not strict, i'm not married, i'm not good, i'm not evil.

Evol Wowling lady left me out!!! Waaaaa!

I can haz my own essay to adwress ma self-steam issues and crazies? kplsthnx.

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tetradecimal
2009-04-27 07:48 pm UTC (link)
This is like a black person reading a novel where all the blacks are called filthy niggers and they're gansters who rape and steal and there's no positive characters with which the black reader to identify. What does a book like that do to your self-image?

I thought that the main drawback of Slytherin was that they were, y'know, the evil house. So if your self esteem plummets because a book portrays evil people in a negative light, uh... maybe you should be reading some kind of dark and edgy anti-hero comic book or something.

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[info]innocentsmith
2009-04-27 07:50 pm UTC (link)
This is like a black person reading a novel where all the blacks are called filthy niggers and they're gansters who rape and steal and there's no positive characters with which the black reader to identify.

NO. NO IT'S NOT.

Fail.

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[info]missdeep
2009-04-27 07:51 pm UTC (link)
You had me at "Queering the Slytherin Identity". ♥

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[info]vitalitat
2009-04-27 07:52 pm UTC (link)
This is like a black person reading a novel where all the blacks are called filthy niggers and they're gansters who rape and steal and there's no positive characters with which the black reader to identify. What does a book like that do to your self-image?


I don't know, why don't you tell us?

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[info]jujubee
2009-04-27 07:52 pm UTC (link)
What's with the recent resurgence in HP wank? Are they feeling outwanked by Lady S and had to make sure we remember them?

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[info]velvet_mace
2009-04-27 07:57 pm UTC (link)
Oh Fandom is such Serious Business!

This is like a black person reading a novel where all the blacks are called filthy niggers and they're gansters who rape and steal and there's no positive characters with which the black reader to identify. What does a book like that do to your self-image?

What are the poor fen who choose to identify with the bad guys in a series of children's books to do? Everyone treats their favorite bad guys like they are *gasp* evil!

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[info]izzy_the_hutt
2009-04-27 08:01 pm UTC (link)
Wow, yet another person who thinks that the Houses from HP belong to them, and THEY should decide what they mean.

YAWN

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[info]pipssister
2009-04-27 08:02 pm UTC (link)
For those readers, it is dangerous because if they're not abnormally intelligent or pretty, or heroic and action-based, then there is nobody among the heroes for them to equate themselves with.

And that describes the heroes of Harry Potter HOW?

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[info]narcissam
2009-04-27 08:02 pm UTC (link)
I'll just add that HP fans have *nothing* on British Star Wars fans, whose self esteem was annihilated by George Lucas's hatred of Admiral Piett and co's British accents.

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[info]microclimate
2009-04-27 08:02 pm UTC (link)
This is like a black person reading a novel where all the blacks are called filthy niggers and they're gansters who rape and steal and there's no positive characters with which the black reader to identify. What does a book like that do to your self-image?

I really hate it when people just don't get the problem with stereotypes and thus grasp at straws saying "THIS THING WHICH IS NOTHING LIKE A STEREOTYPE IS EXACTLY LIKE A STEREOTYPE"

GTFO

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-27 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Oh dear, there is so much racism-apology in that thread. One of the choicer pieces (http://sagedarkwoods.livejournal.com/7871.html?thread=17343#t17343):

oryx_leucoryx Why forgive racist slurs in the wizarding world? Not exactly forgive, but looking at the whole picture of the wizarding world, I see a society that is built on racism towards everyone outside it - there is not one wizard who treats Muggles with any kind of respect - so I don't see why adding one more kind of racism is significantly worse.

ORLY? Did the story of the Weasleys - heck, the whole of Deathly Hallows pass you by? You know, thousands and thousands of wizarding families facing persecution for sympathising with muggles. Putting their lives on the line to protect them?

The poster then extends this metaphor by claiming that being racist against blacks and Jews is no worse than being racist against just blacks, and anyone who isn't racist against many people as possible is a hypocrite.

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[info]narcissam
2009-04-27 08:30 pm UTC (link)
So to bring this to a close because I don't mean to be preachy, I just have to mention that Snape also came from a small village in the North country of England - a "Muggle Dung Heap" as Bellatrix calls it. And while he couldn't sing or dance, he had talent. And Harry came to recognize that in HBP when he read Snape's Potions Book. But Harry with his own inability to see beyond appearances couldn't connect the Prince - that talented creative boy - with the ornery facade and greasy hair of the Potions Master.

And that's just like Susan Boyle.


And then Simon Cowell named his firstborn Paul Potts Susan Boyle Cowell, after the two greatest moneymakers he had ever known.

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[info]imp
2009-04-27 08:31 pm UTC (link)
Being evil: like being black, in a way.

For those readers, it is dangerous because if they're not abnormally intelligent or pretty, or heroic and action-based, then there is nobody among the heroes for them to equate themselves with. This causes self-esteem issues and mental health problems.

...Wow. I've read books where I didn't particularly identify with any of the main characters, but it just made me get bored and go read something else, not drive me to mental illness.

A lot of these people seem to have gone "Jeez, I hate these people, but I really like the cowardly bully that pushes them around! I relate to that!" It's funny because they seem so convinced that they're just rooting for the underdog.

Guys, if books about the nice kids getting to pwn the bad kids drives you into a state of distress and anxiety, then... Don't read Harry Potter. In fact, I have a recommendation for you right now: P.C. Cast's House of Night novels. They're about a bitchy, self-centered, pretentious gawth who's oppressed by jocks and her cruel Christian parents, who're all dicks because she became a vampire and vampires are opressed minorities who no one understands. Naturally, this is all just because they suck and are prejudiced against cool people, and has nothing to do with the fact that she's a smug brat who firmly believes she's better than everyone else, which is constantly affirmed to be true. She gets to go to a super special vampire school, where she steals the hobag vampire prep's hot boyfriend because she's a ho and deserves it (in one passage, she sees the ho vampire giving head, and explains to the reader that only dumb whores would EVER do that), and discovers that she is the bestest magicalest vampire evar and has special powers from the goddess because she's just that kewlies and awesome. She gets her own posse of outcasts who are little more than assorted stereotypes to admire what an amazing rebel she is, and she never stops her snide internal monologues about how stupid and conformist everyone is except her.

It's the only book I've ever had to put down out of sheer loathing for the protagonist (and this is coming from someone who read every Twilight book and thought they were mostly passable!), but I think it's exactly what you're looking for.

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OMG I found the wiki article on it: - [info]tarash, 2009-04-27 09:37 pm UTC
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It's an adjective! It's a verb! Stop, you're both right!
[info]bigbigtruck
2009-04-27 08:31 pm UTC (link)
"Queering"?

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Re: It's an adjective! It's a verb! Stop, you're both right! - [info]notarose, 2009-04-27 08:47 pm UTC
Calvin & Hobbes reference for the win - [info]angakkuq, 2009-04-28 08:47 am UTC
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Re: It's an adjective! It's a verb! Stop, you're both right! - mockygogo, 2009-04-28 02:50 am UTC
Re: It's an adjective! It's a verb! Stop, you're both right! - [info]negativecosine, 2009-04-28 03:53 am UTC
Re: It's an adjective! It's a verb! Stop, you're both right! - [info]negativecosine, 2009-04-28 03:52 am UTC
Re: It's an adjective! It's a verb! Stop, you're both right! - [info]amand_r, 2009-04-28 07:29 am UTC
Re: It's an adjective! It's a verb! Stop, you're both right! - [info]tehrin, 2009-04-29 02:56 am UTC

[info]ahiru
2009-04-27 08:38 pm UTC (link)
This is like a black person reading a novel where all the blacks are called filthy niggers and they're gansters who rape and steal and there's no positive characters with which the black reader to identify. What does a book like that do to your self-image?

Makes you so emo you go bartend in the dark?

Also, way to steal the Harmonians' shtick. Maybe we should lock the crazy Slytherin fans and the batshit Harmonians in a cage with each other where they can fight it out over who is the most oppressed.

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[info]lukita
2009-04-27 08:42 pm UTC (link)
Do not want. D=

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[info]lissibith
2009-04-27 08:49 pm UTC (link)
Okay, the comparing the struggle of Slytherins to the struggle of PoC as though they're remotely on the same plane has me bwuhing so hard I can't really comment on it. So I must settle for this.

There's a lot of Snape apology in there, to the point someone's actually blaming Harry Potter for Snape's mistreatment of the latter (More but lesser bwuh right! there!). Now, I thought the point was Snape was a bastard with a few redeeming actions, not that he was a misunderstood saint. So assuming he is indeed a misunderstood saint... can someone explain his treatment of Neville to me? 'cause IDGI.

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[info]seraphtrevs
2009-04-27 08:59 pm UTC (link)
If anyone's Susan Boyle, it's Neville.

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(Anonymous)
2009-04-27 09:01 pm UTC (link)
For those readers, it is dangerous because if they're not abnormally intelligent or pretty, or heroic and action-based, then there is nobody among the heroes for them to equate themselves with. This causes self-esteem issues and mental health problems.

IIRC, arent all slytherine's either rich and/or powerful?

Ergo if you sympathise with Slytherins then you will become either a rich business leader or Prime Minister.

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[info]varethane
2009-04-27 09:05 pm UTC (link)
it is dangerous because if they're not abnormally intelligent or pretty, or heroic and action-based

I dunno, I think I'm incredibly heroic.

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[info]argylespy
2009-04-27 09:10 pm UTC (link)
But Harry with his own inability to see beyond appearances couldn't connect the Prince - that talented creative boy - with the ornery facade and greasy hair of the Potions Master.

It couldn't possibly be because there have been, in all likelihood, millions of students that have gone through those doors and the odds that the "Half-Blood Prince" was not only someone he knew (knowing only a few adult wizards personally in the first place) but someone still at the school were pretty slim to none.

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[info]isntitironic
2009-04-27 09:29 pm UTC (link)
I have this mental picture of Twilight Fandom smiling and doing the Queen Elizabeth Wave for an adoring crowd, while behind it HP Fandom jumps up and down, waving its arms and squealing, "I'm still here! I'm still here!"

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[info]feenix
2009-04-27 09:37 pm UTC (link)
This is like a black person reading a novel where all the blacks are called filthy niggers and they're gansters who rape and steal and there's no positive characters with which the black reader to identify.

Clearly, she has never been to 4chan.

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[info]monty
2009-04-27 09:56 pm UTC (link)
Hang on now. Surely the Slytherins are only a quarter of the Wizarding World at Hogwarts.

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