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fern_on_fen ([info]fern_on_fen) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-05-17 13:28:00


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Entry tags:baleetion, bannination, community: fanficrants, dead gay headmaster, fandom: star trek, fanfic, isn't it awfully nice to have a penis, misogyny soup, outraged mice, penis, persecution, plucky girl detective, pseuicide, rape is not funny, sci-fi people like to fight, sexism, social experiment, troll, wankers who will not shut up, wanking inside the house, you're all assholes

Wank: The Final Frontier
As those of you who haven't been living under a rock may know, a new Star Trek movie just came out. Over on [info]fanficrants, [info]roq is upset about this. Apparently, TEENAGERS are now WRITING in HER fandom! Quelle suprise!

She has some choice words to say about it.



The highlights of the rant include:

Star Trek is the second oldest fandom in existence...

Because of this, I honestly don't think you can bring a new idea to the fandom. We've seen it all before, really...So that extraspiffy idea you have? We've probably seen it. What this means is that you'll need more than a gimick to keep our attention. You will need to write well. I'm not asking for Tolstoy but basic sentence structure is nice and maybe a plot or at least good characterization.


There's no such thing as an original idea? She must be right, because even that idea sounds familiar...

Two. Do not talk to me about cannon. Do not come over to my happy little ship and whine that K/S is not cannon because Spock and Uhura have a relationship. You may not be familiar with Trekkies. We are not like the Harry Potter fandom.

Guys, I think we've been told. I dunno why we're talking to her about armoury, but w/e. We are not ALLOWEd to write fanfiction within her ship unless we pass STRINGENT STANDARDS.

Also? K/S has never been cannon and probably never will. You know what? We don't care. It's fanfiction. We're changing the world just enough that K/S happens. That's it. If you have a problem with it, don't fucking read it. Go over to S/U and be happy.

The rant goes on in this vein for a while. And then there's the comments.

At first the comments at the community are overwhelmingly supportive and generally non-combative.

But then someone's fannish entitlement alarm goes off, and the shit hits the fan:

[info]kuromitsu starts: Remember, children, this fandom has been around since before you were born. You must follow all of its ancient conventions, must strive to gain the respect of older members, and most importantly you must. not. have. fun with it your own way lest the older fans not like it.

Fandom = serious business, damn it! God forbid you enjoy yourself!


[info]helen_damnation responds: Thank you. I was starting to think I was the only person annoyed by all the "thou shalt not"s.

I haven't seen the movie yet, though I intend to. I don't intend to watch the series. Know why? Because I don't want to. I want to watch the movie. I might write fic for the movie, I don't know yet. That's my right. I'm also very fond of portmanteaus. That's also my right.

Take your own advice and get over it.


It's all downhill from there.

Some choice bits include a "DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!" quote, some accusations that the Star Trek fandom is the angriest and wankiest of all fandoms, some people pointing out how canon is spelt, an indignant Harry Potter fan, and a question on apropriate newbie etiquette.

And it's still going.

This one looks GOOD. I think I've already made Bingo.

ETA: Collateral damage wank on ffrantsrants located here.

Also, links are corrected now. Server is being robust, though, so steady on, folks.

ETA2: [info]roq bites back. Apparently he is a he.

Also:

So, according to the people over at fanfic rants, I'm an arrogant, condescending, hypocritical asshole with a stick up my ass.

Good to know.

Wow, you'd think I wasn't dealing with a rant community or something. Oh, wait.


RANTING COMMUNITIES ARE FOR RANTING! Also, I've forgotten to assume that everyone on the internet has a penis. My inability to remain stuck in the early 90's means that I don't understand a lot of what [info]roq says.




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[info]aoibhe
2009-05-17 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Baleeted!

Edit: Or not? Hm. This link tells me no such entry.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2009-05-17 09:45 pm UTC (link)
I think Kuromitsu's response pretty much nailed it, but for all I rolled my eyes at it, it wasn't really any wankier than most posts on FFR get. Which I suppose isn't really a recommendation per se.

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[info]charamei
2009-05-17 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Bahleeted :(

You know, if it wasn't a reboot I might have more sympathy. I didn't even consider publishing Whofic until I had a solid grasp of the backstory, simply because it seemed, well, arrogant to do so. YMMV; it doesn't mean I don't read and enjoy fic by people who've only seen the new series, just that when I write I want as complete a picture of the context I'm putting my stuff in as I can reasonably get.

...but yeah, Star Trek is a reboot. Unless you're writing Old!Spock fic, I'd suggest you're relatively safe sticking to new canon.

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[info]arekuru
2009-05-17 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Obviously those stringent standards don't extend to proper spelling. Or are Spock and Kirk double-dating with the Flying Zucchini Brothers?

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[info]nonnyeve
2009-05-17 09:56 pm UTC (link)
I'm looking forward to seeing that movie, having never seen a damn star trek thing in my life.

I also look forward to joining in the fandom as much as I damn well please if I enjoy it.

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[info]velvet_mace
2009-05-17 09:59 pm UTC (link)
Your link is borked. The entry is still there -- you just somehow cut the final number 4 off the address.

Startrek is sooooooooo not even close to the Wankiest of all fandoms.


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[info]mochibuni
2009-05-17 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Welcome to the internet, [info]roq, it isn't just your fucking playground.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2009-05-17 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Also: there is collateral wankage already over on fanficrantsrants. Unsurprisingly.

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[info]viridian_magpie
2009-05-17 10:04 pm UTC (link)
*leans back to enjoy her popcorn* I've been waiting for something like this ever since the movie came out. *grins*

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[info]xero_sky
2009-05-17 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Do not talk to me about cannon.

I didn't realize there were cannons on the Enterprise.

But then I haven't seen the movie, so who knows?

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I realise I may sound incredibly sad for pointing this out... - [info]taleya, 2009-06-07 04:16 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2009-05-17 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Second oldest fandom in existence? Doubt it. You KNOW those Victorians were writing smutty Austen fic.

The way I see it, Star Trek has grown complacent in its wank over the years... This reboot has also rebooted the wank! There is now new, glorious wank of a new and glorious kind!

As an old-school Trek fan, I merely find amusement out of the incoming Mary Sues and crap into the fandom... and a little itch to write some dimension hopping Original Series/movie crossovers where the Uhuras meet up to be Awesome together...

-Ocelot

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(Anonymous)
2009-05-17 10:05 pm UTC (link)
Old school Trek is probably the most humourless fandom out there, with old Doctor Who (old or new) giving it run for its money. Seems to me Kirk/Spock was pretty much a dead fandom (fic still being published in zines? Yeah, like I'm going to pay to read fanfiction and wait weeks before it even gets delivered to me in 2009...please at least consider joining the modern world, older fandoms) before the movie reboot got the characters into people's consciousness.

I've been floating around in the Doctor Who and Torchwood fandoms and right now they are dead. Dead dead dead dead dead because we've gone so long without new canon to play with. Is that what that old school fan wants for Trek? She should be thrilled that it's shaken the "geek" imaage enough to draw in newer, younger fans and that Kirk/Spock is being written with such excitement again even if it might quite be her Kirk/Spock.

I really feel for younger or newer writers. With people like that ranting around, I'm glad I'm old enough to know better than to ignore their elitist bullshit. If I were younger and less experienced I would be intimidated by that snooty attitude. There are too many people like her in some fandoms and they would have kept me well away a few years ago. Luckily I am experienced enough to know that I can write whatever the damn hell I want and if people like the ranter have a problem with that, it's their problem and not mine.

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[info]ayezur
2009-05-17 10:23 pm UTC (link)
You know those scenes in certain movies where the pebbles start to shake, and then they start to roll, and someone asks "What's going on?" and then the wizened guide looks up and says "It's too late to run."

Yeah.

I anticipate more wank to come.

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[info]ghostmaster
2009-05-17 10:29 pm UTC (link)
Star Trek is the second oldest fandom in existence...

Right. No one liked Grapes of Wrath, no one wrote smutfic about Mr. Darcy, and Odysseus and Circe are not OTP.

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[info]pepperlandgirl4
2009-05-17 10:39 pm UTC (link)
The funniest thing, to me, is that there's A LOT of really horrible Kirk/Spock fanfic out there. Some of the most out OOC, out-there, bizarre, crazy shit I have ever read in my life was Kirk/Spock--and not just in the dark corners of fandom. I'm talking apparently well-regarded, multi-recc'ed stories that left me scratching my head and wondering if I had stepped into the Mirror Mirror-verse. So your fandom has been fucked for years, lady. Just roll with it.

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fire all cannons
(Anonymous)
2009-05-17 10:58 pm UTC (link)
I guess this should have been expected. Just like the old wrinkly Trekkies are giving thumbs-down to the reboot film, it's only natural that Trekkies would be trying to marginalize the teenboppers who will probably make Kirk AND Spock BISEXUALS or something! damn kids.

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Re: fire all cannons - [info]agent_hyatt, 2009-05-18 06:55 am UTC
YO. I'm an old wrinkly Trekkie... - [info]serai, 2009-05-18 07:41 am UTC
Re: YO. I'm an old wrinkly Trekkie... - (Anonymous), 2009-05-18 05:23 pm UTC
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fire all cannons
(Anonymous)
2009-05-17 10:59 pm UTC (link)
since Trekkies are panning the movie in droves, it's only understandable that they'd be manning the barricades to keep up a new generation of younger, more annoying Trekkies with better special effects.

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er sorry for dupes - (Anonymous), 2009-05-17 11:01 pm UTC
Re: er sorry for dupes - [info]arekuru, 2009-05-17 11:19 pm UTC
Re: fire all cannons - (Anonymous), 2009-05-17 11:08 pm UTC
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[info]rekall
2009-05-17 11:02 pm UTC (link)
Fandom tradition is Initial slash Initial

How would that even work? K/S could mean either Kirk/Spock, Kirk/Sulu or Kirk/Scotty.

This is especially true with the new movie since Kirk has chemistry with every damn person he comes in contact with. It makes me want to ship him with everyone.

As for name smushing I officially propose that Kirk/Scotty should be 'KITTY'!

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[info]kantayra
2009-05-17 11:14 pm UTC (link)
Not only has this movie revitalized the ST franchise, it's revitalized the ST wank as well! Much as with the movie, it may not be the wank I grew up with, but I just can't help but sit back with my popcorn and enjoy the show.

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(Anonymous)
2009-05-17 11:22 pm UTC (link)
My favorite thing about this whole rant is that the person who wrote it was born in 1982. Reading the rant, I assumed they were, you know, in their '50s or something.

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[info]embellish
2009-05-17 11:23 pm UTC (link)
Ha, I saw this earlier, then I went to see the new Star Trek movie. Now I'm gonna go be one of the new fanthings that so annoy her.

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[info]munchkinott
2009-05-17 11:26 pm UTC (link)
Do not talk to me about cannon. Do not come over to my happy little ship and whine that K/S is not cannon

That sounds more like a re-enactment of the Battle of Trafalgar with the British screaming "KISS HIM, HARDY!" and the French shouting "NON! NON! NON! ICKY EEEEEEW!"

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(Anonymous)
2009-05-17 11:28 pm UTC (link)
Mynameisinawankmynameisinawankmynameisinawank *panics* *panics* *panics* *gets over it*

Wait, nemesishamartia is a teenager now? I though he was married.

~Helen_Damnation

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[info]mcity
2009-05-17 11:32 pm UTC (link)
Jeez, roq, you're late. I was expecting "get off my lawn!" wank a week ago. You wankers need to step it up.

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[info]gabzillaz
2009-05-17 11:48 pm UTC (link)
8D I was waiting for this.

*gets popcorn*

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