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fern_on_fen ([info]fern_on_fen) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2009-05-17 13:28:00


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Entry tags:baleetion, bannination, community: fanficrants, dead gay headmaster, fandom: star trek, fanfic, isn't it awfully nice to have a penis, misogyny soup, outraged mice, penis, persecution, plucky girl detective, pseuicide, rape is not funny, sci-fi people like to fight, sexism, social experiment, troll, wankers who will not shut up, wanking inside the house, you're all assholes

Wank: The Final Frontier
As those of you who haven't been living under a rock may know, a new Star Trek movie just came out. Over on [info]fanficrants, [info]roq is upset about this. Apparently, TEENAGERS are now WRITING in HER fandom! Quelle suprise!

She has some choice words to say about it.



The highlights of the rant include:

Star Trek is the second oldest fandom in existence...

Because of this, I honestly don't think you can bring a new idea to the fandom. We've seen it all before, really...So that extraspiffy idea you have? We've probably seen it. What this means is that you'll need more than a gimick to keep our attention. You will need to write well. I'm not asking for Tolstoy but basic sentence structure is nice and maybe a plot or at least good characterization.


There's no such thing as an original idea? She must be right, because even that idea sounds familiar...

Two. Do not talk to me about cannon. Do not come over to my happy little ship and whine that K/S is not cannon because Spock and Uhura have a relationship. You may not be familiar with Trekkies. We are not like the Harry Potter fandom.

Guys, I think we've been told. I dunno why we're talking to her about armoury, but w/e. We are not ALLOWEd to write fanfiction within her ship unless we pass STRINGENT STANDARDS.

Also? K/S has never been cannon and probably never will. You know what? We don't care. It's fanfiction. We're changing the world just enough that K/S happens. That's it. If you have a problem with it, don't fucking read it. Go over to S/U and be happy.

The rant goes on in this vein for a while. And then there's the comments.

At first the comments at the community are overwhelmingly supportive and generally non-combative.

But then someone's fannish entitlement alarm goes off, and the shit hits the fan:

[info]kuromitsu starts: Remember, children, this fandom has been around since before you were born. You must follow all of its ancient conventions, must strive to gain the respect of older members, and most importantly you must. not. have. fun with it your own way lest the older fans not like it.

Fandom = serious business, damn it! God forbid you enjoy yourself!


[info]helen_damnation responds: Thank you. I was starting to think I was the only person annoyed by all the "thou shalt not"s.

I haven't seen the movie yet, though I intend to. I don't intend to watch the series. Know why? Because I don't want to. I want to watch the movie. I might write fic for the movie, I don't know yet. That's my right. I'm also very fond of portmanteaus. That's also my right.

Take your own advice and get over it.


It's all downhill from there.

Some choice bits include a "DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!" quote, some accusations that the Star Trek fandom is the angriest and wankiest of all fandoms, some people pointing out how canon is spelt, an indignant Harry Potter fan, and a question on apropriate newbie etiquette.

And it's still going.

This one looks GOOD. I think I've already made Bingo.

ETA: Collateral damage wank on ffrantsrants located here.

Also, links are corrected now. Server is being robust, though, so steady on, folks.

ETA2: [info]roq bites back. Apparently he is a he.

Also:

So, according to the people over at fanfic rants, I'm an arrogant, condescending, hypocritical asshole with a stick up my ass.

Good to know.

Wow, you'd think I wasn't dealing with a rant community or something. Oh, wait.


RANTING COMMUNITIES ARE FOR RANTING! Also, I've forgotten to assume that everyone on the internet has a penis. My inability to remain stuck in the early 90's means that I don't understand a lot of what [info]roq says.



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Zvarri!
[info]tetradecimal
2009-05-19 04:25 pm UTC (link)
So now that it's been revealed that the Mr. Body is actually lovecrafty/skepticultist, are there any neato internet detectives that care to take a shot at identifying the OP?

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Re: Zvarri!
[info]reeve
2009-05-19 05:43 pm UTC (link)
One vote for Lovecrafty's sockpuppet, here.

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Re: Zvarri!
[info]jupiterpluvius
2009-05-19 05:48 pm UTC (link)
+1

Nobody who had it together enough to actually type a word could possibly be out of it enough to write that lolcrafty just wanted to make everything better.

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Re: Zvarri!
[info]ari_o
2009-05-19 06:18 pm UTC (link)
He was posting to a music site two days ago, so...

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further clues
[info]ari_o
2009-05-19 06:17 pm UTC (link)
lovecrafty's website IP is: 74.208.136.35
His email is lovecrafty@yahoo.com
his FB is Necronomekon, Lovecrafty--but it is private.
<http://saint-jackalope.livejournal.com/profile">Another LJ alias</a> but LJ is never used.

A thread in which Ken annoys everyone is called a Troll. See it's not just F_W, and LJ, and... he lst posted on May 17. How was he posting to a site two days ago if his dogs found his body a week after he offed himself?

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So he's not really dead?
(Anonymous)
2009-05-19 06:25 pm UTC (link)
The plot thickens.

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Re: So he's not really dead?
[info]ari_o
2009-05-19 06:29 pm UTC (link)
I have no idea. A lot of people are dead. It happens.

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Re: further clues
[info]duraniedrama
2009-05-19 06:32 pm UTC (link)
How was he posting to a site two days ago if his dogs found his body a week after he offed himself?

Ghost in the machine?

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Re: further clues
[info]tetradecimal
2009-05-19 07:17 pm UTC (link)
I think I saw an X-File episode about that once.

...It wasn't one of their better episodes.

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Re: further clues
[info]lukita
2009-05-19 06:35 pm UTC (link)
The troll should have quit while he was ahead...

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Re: further clues
[info]snacky
2009-05-19 07:03 pm UTC (link)
Just curious, how do you know lovecrafty is Dead Kennedy in that thread? And where did he post on May 17th?

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Re: further clues
[info]ari_o
2009-05-19 07:17 pm UTC (link)
I was wrong about him posting on the 17th. His account was logged in on May 17, which you can see on his profile page.

Several posters refer to him as Ken in that long thread. They talk about the RPG scene in Seattle where "Ken" lives. And one of his aliases is "jackalope" which is listed under his avatar. He started an LJ called "saint_jackalope" but never posted anything with it. He said he used to be "lovecrafty" on the profile page of that LJ. And they talk about his ED entry here. Also all the rape talk is exactly the same stuff we've seen from him before.

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Re: further clues
[info]duraniedrama
2009-05-19 07:29 pm UTC (link)
Last post was February 28, 2009, 01:38:25 PM, according to the post history on his profile.

If you look at his most recent posts, he identifies the 'knight photo' that's also in the ED entry as a picture of him.

Logged in could mean that someone fired up his computer to check messages or whatever after his demise, but it's still rather telling that it happened so recently.

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Re: further clues - [info]ari_o, 2009-05-19 07:33 pm UTC
Re: further clues
[info]some_dude
2009-05-19 10:19 pm UTC (link)
The 'Seattle' thing made me put on my girl detective hat and do a quick search...it doesn't prove anything conclusively of course, but adding to the evidence is the fact that nobody matching the first name (Ken/Kenneth) or description (somewhere around 30 years old) given is in the Seattle Times or Seattle Post-Intelligencer obits from the last two weeks...

Yes, yes I am watching an extremely boring online lecture right now, why do you ask?

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Re: further clues - [info]ari_o, 2009-05-19 10:21 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]duraniedrama, 2009-05-19 11:34 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]dragonfangirl, 2009-05-19 11:45 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]ari_o, 2009-05-19 11:46 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]frequentmouse, 2009-05-20 09:17 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]ghostmaster, 2009-05-19 11:01 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]shadowmonkey, 2009-05-20 01:43 am UTC
Re: further clues - [info]drimblewedge, 2009-05-20 04:03 am UTC
Re: further clues - [info]arekuru, 2009-05-20 04:06 am UTC
Re: further clues - [info]brennalarose, 2009-05-20 03:59 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]arekuru, 2009-05-20 04:20 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]brennalarose, 2009-05-20 06:19 pm UTC
Re: further clues - [info]felinephoenix, 2009-05-20 04:38 am UTC
Re: further clues - [info]brennalarose, 2009-05-20 04:01 pm UTC
Re: further clues
[info]lady_ganesh
2009-05-19 07:25 pm UTC (link)
Zombies can be sprightly.

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Re: further clues
(Anonymous)
2009-05-19 09:23 pm UTC (link)
How was he posting to a site two days ago if his dogs found his body a week after he offed himself?

Time-traveling dogs, obviously.

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Re: further clues
[info]tetradecimal
2009-05-19 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Wait, and how come it took his dogs a week to find his body? Don't your pets usually live with you? So no one noticed he was gone for a week, not even his dogs?

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Re: further clues
[info]ghostmaster
2009-05-19 11:02 pm UTC (link)
Were they his dogs, or just neighborhood dogs? Though personally, I'm more amazed that they were howling instead of bringing bits of him home to chew on.

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Re: further clues - [info]tetradecimal, 2009-05-20 01:31 am UTC
Re: further clues
[info]shadowmonkey
2009-05-19 10:43 pm UTC (link)
That really doesn't sound like a guy who retreated from the internet three years ago, because of the vast hurt caused to him.

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GIP
[info]ari_o
2009-05-19 11:00 pm UTC (link)
How could he both retreat and be constantly here at the same time? Though I still don't understand how we're all the same people over at SF and ED. Unless we are all The Borg.

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Re: GIP
[info]shadowmonkey
2009-05-19 11:40 pm UTC (link)
I think we're using either the astral plane, or the universal mind.

I guess FW being both SF and ED must be why outraged mouse has not also posted to SF to berate them for having a vagina.

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Re: GIP - [info]khym_chanur, 2009-05-20 05:45 am UTC
Re: GIP - [info]ari_o, 2009-05-20 05:50 am UTC
Re: further clues
[info]innocentsmith
2009-05-20 12:24 am UTC (link)
Maybe his internet persecutors have taken over his accounts, including his IP address, and are sockpuppeting in his name to make him look bad beyond the grave!

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Re: Zvarri!
[info]rogueunit
2009-05-19 09:43 pm UTC (link)
Question: Wasn't lovecrafty's icon the brain in the jar? The same one that ragnor144 uses?

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Re: Zvarri!
[info]felinephoenix
2009-05-19 09:49 pm UTC (link)
I think so, but just having the same icon doesn't mean they're the same person. If I remember right, lovecrafty used a different icon on his skepticultist account - a Daredevil one, I think.

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Re: Zvarri!
[info]rogueunit
2009-05-19 09:59 pm UTC (link)
True about the icons. Just reading through this whole thing makes my brain hurt!

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